Excalibur [Endgame]

[Chara]

I will say this again and again - as many times as necessary for buildings to fall on some people - *cough* Chara *cough*.

TOWN!GAMMA NEVER GLADIATES ME HERE!!!

town gamma didn't gladiate you!! nobody did!!! you are not gladiated!!

[Chara]

if they're partners that's fine. if they

aren't

partners, Gamma made the ridiculous decision of saying he would scumread Nancy when he could just gladiate Penguin and win. there's no world where scum Gamma thinks Nancy's an easier 1v1 target.

Who is the scumteam then Chara? Dunn, you, me and Gamma, can’t all be town?

i was thinking Dunn/Varsoon/Penguin.
if it's Gamma/Penguin/Varsoon then i think Varsoon is trying to bus but i find this less likely.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Why the fuck don’t I just gladiate on the spot as scum? I wanted to discuss and see if I was off-base. Pretty sure I’m not with you going apeshit on me.

Chara is right about one thing. You choosing to gladiate Penguin, was absolutely the right move, if you were town here and since this is LYLO, Chara’s argument is 100%, a complete fail - unlike say, Chara gladiating UT.

So, maybe Chara is scum with you and Penguin? But I wouldn’t want to chance that and it’s a lot safer to assime, he’s just being bad town here. Lynching/vigging in you and Penguin, 100% wins us the game.

[Nancy Drew 39]

if they're partners that's fine. if they

aren't

partners, Gamma made the ridiculous decision of saying he would scumread Nancy when he could just gladiate Penguin and win. there's no world where scum Gamma thinks Nancy's an easier 1v1 target.

He wouldn’t win because scum needs to mislynch. Wtf is wrong with you here? I’m once again questioning my tr on you.

did you miss "if they aren't partners"?
if they're (Gamma and Penguin) partners it's fine, i just said that.
my point is if they aren't partners, Gamma's the one who would be town of the two, due to avoiding the Penguin gladiate and trying to go after you instead. scum Gamma town Penguin = Gamma wanting to lynch Penguin and win. if they are partners they're both scum. i guess that's possible but Varsoon's decision to gladiate Gamma here really throws me unless it's a bus attempt.

and acknowledgement from me that you aren't confirmed town =/= a scumread.

This is freaking LYLO, of course scum!Gamma doesn’t want to lynch his buddy.

[Chara]

i'm saying if they are NOT partners, then Gamma is town and Penguin is scum, due to him trying to avoid gladiating Penguin. the only other option i'd consider is them being scumpartners. meaning Penguin was objectively the better lynch.

[Chara]

Varsoon's arguing that there's a world where Gamma is scum with Penguin town, and Gamma didn't just take the Penguin mislynch we would have handed him. that's what i take ssue with.

[FakeGod]

VoteCount 5.1

Varsoon [1] - Gamma Emerald
Gamma Emerald [2] - Varsoon, Nancy Drew 39

Not Voting [4]

- Kokichi Oma, Dunnstral, Chara, PenguinPower

With 7 alive it takes 4 votes to lynch.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2018-12-30 14:00:00)

[Chara]

i need to go to sleep.
not sure if it's worth it to wait for tomorrow morning to vote, because even if Kokichi agrees with me i'm not sure Nancy will. so hopefully Gamma's scum and i'm wrong, which does happen a lot.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Because there's still the fringe doubt that Penguin's town set up to take the last lynch.
Gamma's scum here no matter what
Whereas Penguin is just highly likely.

The likeliest option is that they're scum together.
Which, again, is why neither gladiated and were both doing a lot of nothing.
I went for Gamma because Gamma's more likely out of the two, IE:
I could see Gamma scum and Penguin town
I could not see Penguin scum and Gamma town.

I think both of them are obvscum, otherwise Gamma would have 100% gladiated Penguin. Chara’s argument might actually make sense - if this weren’t actually LYLO but it is, so it doesn’t.

[Gamma Emerald]

I will say this again and again - as many times as necessary for buildings to fall on some people - *cough* Chara *cough*.

TOWN!GAMMA NEVER GLADIATES ME HERE!!!

And I didn’t: I just proposed the idea.

[Nancy Drew 39]

i need to go to sleep.
not sure if it's worth it to wait for tomorrow morning to vote, because even if Kokichi agrees with me i'm not sure Nancy will. so hopefully Gamma's scum and i'm wrong, which does happen a lot.

This is LYLO, scum wins if we mislynch. Why else would Gamma ever consider gladiating me over Anyone other than Kokichi - especially Penguin?

Gamma basically scumclaimed. Could Varsoon possibly be bussing or is he maybe town? I dunno but Gamma pretty much scumclaimed with wanting to gladiate me.

And I can’t see any world where town!Gamma would want to gladiate me over Penguin. Can you?

[Nancy Drew 39]

I will say this again and again - as many times as necessary for buildings to fall on some people - *cough* Chara *cough*.

TOWN!GAMMA NEVER GLADIATES ME HERE!!!

And I didn’t: I just proposed the idea.

That’s right you didn’t, only because Varsoon beat you to it.

[Gamma Emerald]

Why the fuck don’t I just gladiate on the spot as scum? I wanted to discuss and see if I was off-base. Pretty sure I’m not with you going apeshit on me.

Chara is right about one thing. You choosing to gladiate Penguin, was absolutely the right move, if you were town here and since this is LYLO, Chara’s argument is 100%, a complete fail - unlike say, Chara gladiating UT.

So, maybe Chara is scum with you and Penguin? But I wouldn’t want to chance that and it’s a lot safer to assime, he’s just being bad town here. Lynching/vigging in you and Penguin, 100% wins us the game.

Well guess what? Maybe I win the battle, but if me + Penguin are both town? WAR IS LOST DUMBFUCK!

[Gamma Emerald]

I will say this again and again - as many times as necessary for buildings to fall on some people - *cough* Chara *cough*.

TOWN!GAMMA NEVER GLADIATES ME HERE!!!

And I didn’t: I just proposed the idea.

That’s right you didn’t, only because Varsoon beat you to it.

Why not make the full leap if I was going to challenge “obvtown” as you have been so eager to call yourself?

[Chara]

And I can’t see any world where town!Gamma would want to gladiate me over Penguin. Can you?

if he believed his own argument about NK15 and the bussing. town can be wrong. that's the problem with being town.

[Nancy Drew 39]

i need to go to sleep.
not sure if it's worth it to wait for tomorrow morning to vote, because even if Kokichi agrees with me i'm not sure Nancy will. so hopefully Gamma's scum and i'm wrong, which does happen a lot.

I’m not really seeing how this gladiate benefits scum!Varsoon, considering that he just messed up his chance of winning. I did initially think, possible towncred but the fact is that if Gamma had gladiated me and either got me mislynched or caused a no lynch, he would win, right?

So, how does it benefit scum!Varsoon to gladiate Gamma here - irrespective if Penguin is his (Gamma’s) buddy?

[Nancy Drew 39]

Why the fuck don’t I just gladiate on the spot as scum? I wanted to discuss and see if I was off-base. Pretty sure I’m not with you going apeshit on me.

Chara is right about one thing. You choosing to gladiate Penguin, was absolutely the right move, if you were town here and since this is LYLO, Chara’s argument is 100%, a complete fail - unlike say, Chara gladiating UT.

So, maybe Chara is scum with you and Penguin? But I wouldn’t want to chance that and it’s a lot safer to assime, he’s just being bad town here. Lynching/vigging in you and Penguin, 100% wins us the game.

Well guess what? Maybe I win the battle, but if me + Penguin are both town? WAR IS LOST DUMBFUCK!

War is lost if you mislynch ME or no lynch, genius, And sorry, not buying your AtE fail.

[Chara]

I’m not really seeing how this gladiate benefits scum!Varsoon, considering that he just messed up his chance of winning. I did initially think, possible towncred but the fact is that if Gamma had gladiated me and either got me mislynched or caused a no lynch, he would win, right?

you're missing the part where i threatened to gladiate Varsoon if he didn't convince me he was town/convince me that either you or Dunnstral were scum. (becausw if you're both town Varsoon had to be scum.)
gladiating Gamma means now it's Gamma vs. Varsoon instead of me vs. Varsoon.

Varsoon couldn't have afforded to hope that Gamma would gladiate you instead. for one, Gamma never committed to doing so, he only said you might be scum. two, i might have gladiated Varsoon first.

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay you might actually just be really fucking awful town, because that shitty logic looks too cocksure to be scum

[Gamma Emerald]

Nancy, if you’re town, don’t you EVER talk down about my play past this game.

[Nancy Drew 39]

And I can’t see any world where town!Gamma would want to gladiate me over Penguin. Can you?

if he believed his own argument about NK15 and the bussing. town can be wrong. that's the problem with being town.

Not THIS wrong. Town!Gamma never considers gladiating me here. Whatever Varsoon is, I am not w/w with him, so what is scum!Varsoon’s motive for stopping Gamma from gladiating me?

[Gamma Emerald]

I’m not really seeing how this gladiate benefits scum!Varsoon, considering that he just messed up his chance of winning. I did initially think, possible towncred but the fact is that if Gamma had gladiated me and either got me mislynched or caused a no lynch, he would win, right?

you're missing the part where i threatened to gladiate Varsoon if he didn't convince me he was town/convince me that either you or Dunnstral were scum. (becausw if you're both town Varsoon had to be scum.)
gladiating Gamma means now it's Gamma vs. Varsoon instead of me vs. Varsoon.

Varsoon couldn't have afforded to hope that Gamma would gladiate you instead. for one, Gamma never committed to doing so, he only said you might be scum. two, i might have gladiated Varsoon first.

You’re thinking I’m town right?

[Chara]

Not THIS wrong. Town!Gamma never considers gladiating me here. Whatever Varsoon is, I am not w/w with him, so what is scum!Varsoon’s motive for stopping Gamma from gladiating me?

how do you know Gamma was

actually

going to gladiate you?

[Nancy Drew 39]

Nancy, if you’re town, don’t you EVER talk down about my play past this game.

I will call you out if your play is bad like in DnD Mafia or if you’re probable scum, like in THIS game. Why are you allowed to insult me but not the converse?

[Gamma Emerald]

And I can’t see any world where town!Gamma would want to gladiate me over Penguin. Can you?

if he believed his own argument about NK15 and the bussing. town can be wrong. that's the problem with being town.

Not THIS wrong. Town!Gamma never considers gladiating me here. Whatever Varsoon is, I am not w/w with him, so what is scum!Varsoon’s motive for stopping Gamma from gladiating me?

Okay wait, WHY aren’t you scum with Varsoon? ACTUAL interactions, nothing else.