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[BrightEyedFish]

I don't see how it is a crumb and not just one scumread any scum can make on anyone?

Until someone tells us otherwise we should assume Scum nk'd rb. That means rb must have done something that stood out (aka SRing them) to scum and they just didn't realize it was a crumb.

You're still arguing it's a crumb though.

I believe it is a crumb. If you don't, that's your prerogative.

[BrightEyedFish]

It'd be more effective if we just ignored whatever crumb rb possibly did and just focused on determining why rb was NKed.

I think he was NK'd because he was openly SRing all scum members and they panicked and shot him.

[BrightEyedFish]

It'd be more effective if we just ignored whatever crumb rb possibly did and just focused on determining why rb was NKed.

I think he was NK'd because he was openly SRing all scum members and they panicked and shot him.

We can lynch someone who wasn't a part of rb's "crumbs" and if whoever that is flips town, we will be right back where we are now. So, imo, it would be better to address the "crumbs" now and then if they are not valid then we can move on.

[mbaki]

It'd be more effective if we just ignored whatever crumb rb possibly did and just focused on determining why rb was NKed.

Was he killed for scumreading Vorkuta?

[Creature]

It'd be more effective if we just ignored whatever crumb rb possibly did and just focused on determining why rb was NKed.

I think he was NK'd because he was openly SRing all scum members and they panicked and shot him.

We're back to:

@rb- are you like... breadcrumbing with your 'wow's everywhere?
Is this your scumtell?

As for the Yyotta lynch- she won't come back except to basically 'prod-dodge'.
She pulls this stuff in her other games with her acting surprised an RVS vote, and the resulting 'why meeee?'
I'd support the policy lynch on her, but it's very much NAI, and her flip either way won't give us anything (unless we jackpot a scum PR )

Why did Vork ignore this?

[mbaki]

It'd be more effective if we just ignored whatever crumb rb possibly did and just focused on determining why rb was NKed.

I think he was NK'd because he was openly SRing all scum members and they panicked and shot him.

We're back to:

@rb- are you like... breadcrumbing with your 'wow's everywhere?
Is this your scumtell?

As for the Yyotta lynch- she won't come back except to basically 'prod-dodge'.
She pulls this stuff in her other games with her acting surprised an RVS vote, and the resulting 'why meeee?'
I'd support the policy lynch on her, but it's very much NAI, and her flip either way won't give us anything (unless we jackpot a scum PR )

Why did Vork ignore this?

I've answered this about 5 times too.

[Creature]

I don't see how it is a crumb and not just one scumread any scum can make on anyone?

Until someone tells us otherwise we should assume Scum nk'd rb. That means rb must have done something that stood out (aka SRing them) to scum and they just didn't realize it was a crumb.

You're still arguing it's a crumb though.

I believe it is a crumb. If you don't, that's your prerogative.

All "partner crumbs" besides mbaki, Vork and DDL:

Spoiler: [quote="In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=10594638#p10594638

post 90[/url], rb"]wow so true imo

VOTE: suka

probably scum trying to pocket me by townreading me for saying wow[/quote]

wow suka's reads are 'maybe the scum are crossbussing for no reason on day1' imo

i think that's dumb but i do think DDL is scum and nero is town imo, so i can sort of accept that point of view on the basis that their interactions feel scummy tbh imo wow so true imo

How would you suggest we resolve Yyotta, Nero?

VOTE: Yyotta.

fuck 'em

ill also take a leodanny lynch

Ah Mafiascum, you never disappoint.

I thought you were new to MS? Another lie?

He can't meta me because I don't play here.

I'm from another mafia site, so I doubt you do, but good luck if so!

and...

Good for you I guess

so was this actually going anywhere or what?

BrightEyedFish wagon is now open for business

i'll gladly lynch either one

...

i dont think u are getting it

i can do all of that

but i think it would be better if i had flips to work off of

badposting

[Creature]

It'd be more effective if we just ignored whatever crumb rb possibly did and just focused on determining why rb was NKed.

Was he killed for scumreading Vorkuta?

Would assume an inexperienced partner.

[Creature]

mbaki simply wouldn't fit.

[BrightEyedFish]

@Creature

If you help us lynch vork and he flips town, I will follow your lead tomorrow. Because if vork flips town then I am on the wrong path and will have to get myself back on track from a different angle.

[BrightEyedFish]

Basically, nothing short of a claim or someone confirming that scum did not NK rb will get me off the vork wagon.

[mbaki]

there are more people than just mbaki who dont like the activity level

but none of us except for mbaki self voted

Not that tried to do anything about it.

is that ur case

In my land someone blatantly prod-dodging, refusing to do shit and thread-dodging is always lynched with fire.

Yea. I would kill Varsoon, but rb was townreading Varsoon. We still need to find the at least one scum slot rb was pushing that caused him to get night killed before we go after people like Varsoon.

the case on mbaki is absolutely the most ridiculous thing I've seen

This is a great site, isn't it? It's going to be extra fun tomorrow when you get night killed and they're back to pushing me.

Multiquoting on mobile is awful.

[Creature]

@Creature

If you help us lynch vork and he flips town, I will follow your lead tomorrow. Because if vork flips town then I am on the wrong path and will have to get myself back on track from a different angle.

The problem is: are you town?

[Creature]

Actually I could consider doing DDL

[Creature]

I just don't think rb has been crumbing DDL scum unless in a very specific post in a very specific way rather than through votes

[mbaki]

Scum just doesn't self vote, not experienced players. It never plays to their win condition unless it's a hammer. Rarely, town can self vote and it does play to their win condition.

I said this too. It doesn't work here.

You need to talk to me on Vorkuta, because I agree fish's posting is bad (I pushed them d1) and I still don't think I can ever unvote Vorkuta here. I think he's just scum and you are overthinking.

[Vorkuta]

ELI5- What's the wincon for a traitor IF the traitor is dead?
Does said traitor still win with a scum victory or a town victory?

[BrightEyedFish]

ELI5- What's the wincon for a traitor IF the traitor is dead?
Does said traitor still win with a scum victory or a town victory?

rb was killed. He was a

Mafia Traitor Rolecop

.

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Welcome, rb. You are a

Mafia Traitor Rolecop

.

Abilities:

You are aware that

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As a traitor, you cannot be directly recruited, and if you are the last surviving member of the Mafia, you will be automatically endgamed.

Each night you may target a player. If successful, you will receive that player's full role name.

Win condition:

You win when the mafia is the only faction that remains or nothing can prevent this from happening.

The game thread is here. Please confirm by replying to this with your role name and alignment.

[Vorkuta]

Then why would rb breadcrumb scum if it goes against rb's wincon?

[Creature]

I may be wrong about Vork, but I don't think I am wrong about the existence of crumbs.

Even if Vork flips town, it won't guarantee someone will go back to rb's ISO looking for "real crumbs" and pull another extremely shitty mislynch instead of doing the just usual scumhunting.

It's my job to put all this traitor crumb to rest and just go back to the old normal scumhunting, you can even convince me Vork is scum, as long you actually use his posts as argument and not rb's.

[Creature]

Also if rb is bad for not crumbing. Well, I am part of the particular set of players that never crumb as mafia traitor and I believe rb is also part of that set.

[Creature]

I think traitor should just hang low enough to not be lynched. Like, I can start scumtelling in a way my partners would deduce it's me but not town.

Or I can just stick with the former because I'm likely not getting nightkilled anyway.

[mbaki]

Even Vorkuta's dumb questions on this page feel disingenuous to me, a good sign if conf bias.

[BrightEyedFish]

I may be wrong about Vork, but I don't think I am wrong about the existence of crumbs.

Even if Vork flips town, it won't guarantee someone will go back to rb's ISO looking for "real crumbs" and pull another extremely shitty mislynch instead of doing the just usual scumhunting.

It's my job to put all this traitor crumb to rest and just go back to the old normal scumhunting, you can even convince me Vork is scum, as long you actually use his posts as argument and not rb's.

Do you think vork should claim?

[Creature]

tbh I wouldn't mind, specially if his claim could end all this bullshit for good.