Mini Normal 2046: Autumn's Farewell [Endgame]

[BrightEyedFish]

tbh I wouldn't mind, specially if his claim could end all this bullshit for good.

That would all depend on if the claim seems viable or not. I will remove my vote if the claim seems truthful to me.

[mbaki]

What's the point of posting 1575?

[BrightEyedFish]

What's the point of posting 1575?

What's the point of half of the posts in this game?

[BrightEyedFish]

What's the point of posting 1575?

Are you going to keep your vote on vork regardless if/what he claims?

[mbaki]

Theoretically, no. Practically, yes. 1575 is a useless post.

[BrightEyedFish]

Theoretically, no. Practically, yes. 1575 is a useless post.

I'm sorry it's not up to your standard.

[BrightEyedFish]

Theoretically, no. Practically, yes. 1575 is a useless post.

Tell me, how useful are all of your posts where you just shit on MS and talk about how MU is so great?

How does that progress the game?

[mbaki]

Quote me all of my posts where I've done that?

[mbaki]

Theoretically, no. Practically, yes. 1575 is a useless post.

I'm sorry it's not up to your standard.

My standard is not posting generic things that apply to literally everyone. Saying "if I believe his claim I will move my vote" does not advance the game, it's an excuse to post words and sound smart.

If Varsoon reveals as innocent child I will not vote him.

If I think Vorkuta is town then I will move my vote.

[BrightEyedFish]

and the answer is?

You are rather pungent.

So you spent several pages pushing for a lynch that you didn't scum read? Bang up town play there.

So you kinda lied?

"but it was wea...."

WE KNOW.

bold is really defensive. When pplusually vote they usally vote their top scum read so I don't feel like I've done you some great disservice by assuming that you would do that.

I have great disdain for your style of play. There are lots of reasons to vote someone other than your top scum read, and for somebody who isn't a scum read. I did not push a YYotta lynch overly strong, just repeated to vote for him a couple times to force him to play the game after my RVS vote garnered an odd reaction. My goal was to make the game progress which is what an early game town needs to generate reads, and it proved unsuccessful so I moved on. YYotta is demonstratably not reacting to these votes, so keeping my vote parked on that slot does nothing; there is no purpose voting there now unless I decide I'm locking in on that lynch because my vote will no longer be applying pressure. I despise overconfidence, which you overflow with. Voting is quite literally the only thing I can do to influence the game, and 9 other people here may be in the same boat (9 being 10:3, typical alignment ratio). My vote and the discussion around my vote is

my

impact on the game, and it has done a bang-up job.

TSO is beneath. MS>MU>TSO>EM. Here's the thing though, meta is a useful tool but its not this say all be all of scumhunting. Creature's content is ass and you know it so you're falling back on meta. You have this strange double talk where you are saying my content is scummy while ignoring my meta but ignoring Creature's content and invoking "town meta!" if you are going to use meta then you can't pick and choose where and when to apply it.

I much prefer MU to this site, the quality of games is signficantly higher in my experience. This is not related to deadlines. Meta is the best scumhunting tool by far, and my MU meta knowledge is far more proficient but it doesn't take a lot to know Creature. I don't know your meta, so I don't use meta to sort you. Of course I "pick and choose where and when to apply it", I'm not going to apply a time-intensive tool to people I can't use the tool on... I am in awe that's an argument you even attempted to make. What is your "meta" that should be helping me sort you here? If it is something as simple as Creature's I would be happy to engage in reading it.

*That said, Creature has been lackluster since his posting spree. I am aware of this. If Creature maintains his current activity level I will pursue that slot again. It is not the kind of slot one randomly wagon's for no reason, he will resolve before the end of the phase most likely.

Ah Mafiascum, you never disappoint.

Perhaps more soft distancing would be best, like with his absent approval of a BrightEyedFish or DrDoLittle lynch.

Why not Suka?

If you are town you wouldn't be voting yourself.

TBF, town do get frustrated. Like yeah sure, throwing down a self-vote and

aTe

ing as scum is a thing but its not like ONLY scum self-vote.

Absolutely, I just voted Suka a few of my posts ago. He essentially admitted he was scum to Vorkuta though, he literally quoted the part of the post that had him admit he was scum. He never actively pursued a Vorkuta lynch either, and the only reason the wagon took off at all is because I took it upon myself to sheep rb (lol) and start the wagon.

I think Fish is town, especially so if Vorkuta is scum. I won't be addressing him again though, I don't think anything will be gained from it.

PEdit: it is going to be 2 scum and a traitor. 4:9 is not something ms is capable of handling.

[mbaki]

2 of the 3 posts you quoted progress the game. I mentioned MU once, as part of a conversation. Are you sure this is a conversation you want to be having?

[BrightEyedFish]

"I much prefer MU to this site, the quality of games is signficantly higher in my experience."
"Ah Mafiascum, you never disappoint."
"4:9 is not something ms is capable of handling."

How is this useful and/or needed?

[mbaki]

They're part of posts that also gave thoughts on the game. The first one was part of a conversation about my playstyle and activity, and the third one was informing people there was no chance there are 3 scum left, very useful and needed info.

[Creature]

"I much prefer MU to this site, the quality of games is signficantly higher in my experience."
"Ah Mafiascum, you never disappoint."
"4:9 is not something ms is capable of handling."

How is this useful and/or needed?

What about the rest you apparently cut off?

[BrightEyedFish]

"I much prefer MU to this site, the quality of games is signficantly higher in my experience."
"Ah Mafiascum, you never disappoint."
"4:9 is not something ms is capable of handling."

How is this useful and/or needed?

What about the rest you apparently cut off?

Look back 3-4 posts. Its all there

[mbaki]

That is actually a great segway into the fact I am willing to evaluate, Nero went froma top scum read to a top town read. Nero showed he was town. Vorkuta did the opposite and reassured me he was scum.

[Suka]

mbaki, what's your read on kmd?

[mbaki]

It was town. I don't feel as great about it anymore. I would still say in that direction. However, he is definitely not Vorkuta's partner, he's too good to kill rb after Vorkuta shit, so it can be strong town if Vorkuta reds.

Nero and Dann are the town reads I'm super good on right now. Other than that, I really need flips.

[Creature]

so it can be strong town if Vorkuta reds.

if Vork greens, then what?

[mbaki]

I don't feel as great about it anymore. I would still say in that direction.

This was in reference to if Vorkuta flips green.

[Dannflor]

I think he's just scum and you are overthinking.

A possibility. A Vorkuta flip does give us enough information to know whether going after people on his wagon has good odds or not (BEF), I just wanted to avoid a mislynch to begin with. I'll reread his and BEF's ISOs and try not to be too conf biased.

y r u so low on me Dann?

I don't know what this means.

More coming in a bit, but for now I do want to say Creature is probably town. I was iffy on him at first but the last few pages have really solidified that. His talk about LyLo and avoiding mislynches doesn't come from a scum player when this game can so easily head in the wrong direction at this moment. Also:

What if there were no crumbs at all?

We've discussed rb's crumbs to death, and as we've noticed there's a million directions to go with them depending on how you twist or interpret them. Which means, while one of them might incriminate mafia, mafia can also have a field day with them to incriminate town as long as they're convincing. I think it's much more likely mafia is among the individuals trying to use rb's "crumbs" to push a case.

ELI5- What's the wincon for a traitor IF the traitor is dead?
Does said traitor still win with a scum victory or a town victory?

This post feels really fake? I'll come back to this. BEF and Vorkuta ISOs coming up next.

[mbaki]

If it makes you feel better, Fishy is probably where I'm pushing if Vorkuta ends up town. I doubt they're ever partners though.

[mbaki]

Also, you'll notice I started off the day saying the crumbs are dumb while Oka and friends wagoned me for rbs "crumbs".

[northsidegal]

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[northsidegal]

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