no deadlines mafia [game over]

[Kokichi Oma]

Hey, I'm a cop with a guilty result on Sheepsaysmeep.
Lynch him.

Oh really? Then why did you vote me?

[Kokichi Oma]

VOTE: sheppysheeps

Lynch xtom tomorrow?

Scum vote

[Kokichi Oma]

VOTE: vax

Or gamma. Whichever works

[Wisdom]

gamma works, vax doesnt

[Vaxkiller]

vax looks slightly worse regardless of your alignment

Whys that?

i may be biased but there are plenty of things in varsoon's iso that at least suggested his cop claim might be fake and ignoring them and suggesting we follow the sketchy looking cop is more likely to come from someone on a scumteam that is perfectly happy with going along for that ride

Do you think im that well read up on varsoons iso to think the same way you do?

I would also think that scum-me would be more cautious if scum-me knew it was a sketchy cop claim. Scum are looking for a safe cozy wagon where they cant be found, and I highly doubt all these other wagons we got going on are all caught scum.

[Party Boat]

@vax- i'm less well read and more the type to scramble through chapters on an open-book test when I'm not sure of an answer

tbf you prob aren't paying enough attention regardless of your alignment atm to place varsoon's cop claim as sketchy/not-sketchy immediately, but pushing to follow a cop claim that at first glance to scum would likely involve a 2nd scumteam in some way is about as safe and cozy as scum could ask for

[TheBrie]

This whole thing makes Vax look bad because he came out of basically lurking to follow this claimed result very eagerly. I don't blame him for following it, as I was half convinced by Varsoon as I read it. It was well done, the fact that he has lying low could explain any prior inconsistencies, and the explanation that he was sheeping xtomx just o see what his reaction was. That's still the most reasonable explanation for that sheeping. But actually claiming his role didn't sound so convincing. Which is why he pulls back and calls it a gambit. If he'd not pulled back, I might have ended up voting sheep, because though I've generally been TRing there, Sheep does have problems, and there's truth to those arguments. (Someone will ask me what that truth is, I'll post it later sometimes.)
Anyway back to Vax, I thinks it's more that he became active here that what he actually said. Timing, not tone. He came and jumped on a potentially easy wagon. Tone doesn't seem scummy. Not that I'd call myself a great reader of Vax machines.

Now with Varsoon replacing out, and why, it gives a tonier feel to him. Not sure that to do with that.

[sheepsaysmeep]

dont
make
reads
on
subs

[Party Boat]

I have another thing or two to say about the whole dumb situation that just happened but I'd also very much like the lurkers to come out and play too so ima chill for a day or two and then say it so if they have any reads/insight they want to share I don't crowd them out too bad

[Vaxkiller]

I dunno about everyone else, but I play this game alot at work and today was my first day back from holiday break.

[Nancy Drew 39]

gamma works, vax doesnt

Why?

What makes you do sure, this is scum!Gamma here?

[xyzzy]

votecount 2.06

6 players voting for Varsoon (light_ganski, sheepsaysmeep, vonflare, TheBrie, Party Boat, Purrcocet)
4 players voting for Gamma Emerald (Wisdom, Ausuka, singletonking, Varsoon)
3 players voting for sheepsaysmeep (Xtoxm, Vaxkiller, Gamma Emerald)
2 players voting for Jaylow7 (Wagonomics, Nancy Drew 39)
1 player voting for Vaxkiller (Kokichi Oma)

5 players not voting (hebichan, Theta Alpine, Edosurist, Jaylow7, Trekkie99)

with 21 votes, it takes 11 to lynch.

mod notes: searching for a replacement for Varsoon. Edosurist and Jaylow7 have 24 hours to show up. I realized I forgot to include hebichan on my last round of prods, so she'll get slightly longer to show up, but may also be replaced if she doesn't return soon.

[Nancy Drew 39]

I have another thing or two to say about the whole dumb situation that just happened but I'd also very much like the lurkers to come out and play too so ima chill for a day or two and then say it so if they have any reads/insight they want to share I don't crowd them out too bad

I fiind it extremely hard to get into this game, tbh.

I personally would have perferred 4 different 2 person hoods, to 1 4 person hood. You can actually get useful info in a 1+1 scenario but it’s just seems kind of pointless here and other than the hood, I have nothing else to do.

[Nancy Drew 39]

It's been really hard for me to engage with this game; that much should be obvious.
I'd been considering replacing out for some time already.
I really don't handle large games like this very well.

You didn't make me replace out, though, I just think that it's impossible to continue playing this when we haven't resolved issues that are still lingering between us. There shouldn't be that kind of bias or animosity between players when they are in a game like this--it's what led to the issues I had before and it'll only lead to more if I continue to play in this game.

It's not really a matter of 'not bringing it up'. I'd appreciate being able to come to some resolution, and, failing that, I'd like to become a better person if I really am seen as less than decent.

Cool.
I just hope you understand, 'cus it's like:
At some point, I'm going to have to make a judgment about what your alignment is.
Regardless of what decision I make, it's going to be colored by that out of game bias.
Because of this lingering issue, further issues may occur, and I really don't want to see a repeat of what's already happened in the past.
For what it's worth, I think you're a good dude and I've enjoyed playing games with you so far.
So it feels really crummy to let you down.

UNVOTE:
I think your reasoning for replacing out is kinda towny so I'll remove my vote.
Thinking about whether I want to vote Kokichi or sheep rn

JMO, but Varsoon doesn’t seem nearly invested enough to be scum here but still townreading sheep. In the last 3 games I’ve played with scum!Varsoon, he was way more calculating than this.

@Varsoon. please reconsider your replace out. :/

It’s damn frustrating that I’m so totally lost in this game.

[Vaxkiller]

request for market updates

[singletonking]

Ok I really dislike how roundabout Kokichi is with claiming but if what I'm thinking is right there's no point in lynching him at all so here's what I want:

Kokichi, claim properly.

I'm an IC. I can be revealed confirmed tomorrow

Role name please

Why can't you be revealed today?

[singletonking]

VOTE: Varsoon

[singletonking]

Varsoon was terrible over the last few pages. I feel like his huge emotional tunnel over sheep and against Party Boat was scummy, and claimed a guilty on sheep in desperation to appear consistent with his sheep tunnel, only to retract it when people pointed out the inconsistencies.

Xtoxm trolling along with Varsoon is seriously annoying but I feel he's being annoying for the sake of it and it's not AI.

[Trekkie99]

VOTE: varsoon

In a rush.

I say we do this and then go from there.

[Nancy Drew 39]

2019-01-03 -

no deadlines mafia

Moderator:

xyzzy

Status:

day 2, 55 pages

Replacing:

Varsoon

did you know? doctors report that players who replace into no deadlines mafia are more attractive, more virile, and have longer lifespans than their peers.

[Nancy Drew 39]

I don’t like being in a 4 person hood. It messes with your reads. I know it definitely did in Labrynth.

[Vaxkiller]

First of all I want to know if Varsoon is still being replaced or whatever is happening with that. Some official word would be nice.

[xyzzy]

Varsoon is still being replaced. if that changes, I'll let you know.

[Vaxkiller]

Thanks mod! Sorry if that came off weird. I should have crafted that question better.

I want to hear from varsoons replacement when they get in. Preferably a claim.

[sheepsaysmeep]

this day should prolly start coming to a close rly soon