no deadlines mafia [game over]

[Nancy Drew 39]

you cant assume that if my read doesnt change that means i'll never reconsider my read that's bullshit

i dont post every thought i have


i'll respond to a case if anyone cares about it
i havent seen anything agianst me that isnt crap

Scum!sheep doesn’t fake this kind of outrage.

[Nancy Drew 39]

purr do you want to try talking abotu people who arent me

u should feel bad for pocketing someone as innocent as ND39

<3

Purr, he isn’t pocketing me. I’m simply good at reading him based off of tone.

[Purrcocet]

i dunno nance

burn those bridges when we cross them or however the saying goes
wisdom is forgotten hourglass'ing again
kokichi isn't a day 3 ic, lol.

tone reading is bad in general


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[Nancy Drew 39]

i dunno nance

burn those bridges when we cross them or however the saying goes
wisdom is forgotten hourglass'ing again
kokichi isn't a day 3 ic, lol.

tone reading is bad in general


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Kokichi was IC mayor in Starcraft 1 and he claimed Day 2 or 3 IC, iiirc.

Tell me how Wisdom’s play here reminds you of FH.

I disagree wrt to tonereading. It is extremely accurate with some players. Sheep is a really good example of this. His tone is completely different as scum. I had trouble reading him at first but after playing numerous games with him, I figured out that he was readable by tone.

And like I keep saying, he is tonally town here

[Flavor Leaf]

@Nancy - I flat out stated that if Sheep is town he needs to reconsider, and yes, sheep can fake that kind of outrage as scum.

Quit hatcheting me, Nancy.

[Party Boat]

@Nancy - I flat out stated that if Sheep is town he needs to reconsider, and yes, sheep can fake that kind of outrage as scum.

Quit hatcheting me, Nancy.

what does hatcheting mean for you? b/c like my assumption of something like 'mercilessly attacking you' is really not what she's doing considering that most of her posts have just been her disagreeing with you about sheep

[Gamma Emerald]

I get to tree stump if I get my lynch, though.

If it is even more possible to get a more boring role than that in this game, I can’t figure out what.

Hey I like tree stump!

[Gamma Emerald]

you cant assume that if my read doesnt change that means i'll never reconsider my read that's bullshit

i dont post every thought i have


i'll respond to a case if anyone cares about it
i havent seen anything agianst me that isnt crap

Scum!sheep doesn’t fake this kind of outrage.

Scum can feel real outrage though

[xyzzy]

votecount 2.08

5 players voting for Flavor Leaf (light_ganski, sheepsaysmeep, vonflare, TheBrie, Party Boat)
4 players voting for sheepsaysmeep (Xtoxm, Gamma Emerald, Flavor Leaf, Purrcocet)
2 players voting for Gamma Emerald (Wisdom, Ausuka)
2 players voting for Jaylow7 (Wagonomics, Nancy Drew 39)
1 player voting for Vaxkiller (Kokichi Oma)
1 player voting for Ausuka (Vaxkiller)

6 players not voting (hebichan, Theta Alpine, Edosurist, Jaylow7, Trekkie99, singletonking)

with 21 votes, it takes 11 to lynch.

mod notes: searching for replacements for Edosurist, Jaylow7, hebichan, and Theta Alpine. prodding a couple folks.

[Flavor Leaf]

you cant assume that if my read doesnt change that means i'll never reconsider my read that's bullshit

i dont post every thought i have


i'll respond to a case if anyone cares about it
i havent seen anything agianst me that isnt crap

Scum!sheep doesn’t fake this kind of outrage.

Scum can feel real outrage though

I actually get more angry as scum than town, tbh.

Especially if I was winning a 1v1, and then someone replaced, and they started making solid cases.

So scumSheep makes more sense to be angry than even townSheep.

Thanks for scum casing Sheep for us Nancy.

[Flavor Leaf]

@Nancy - link every game you’ve been in with ScumSheep, please.

[Flavor Leaf]

@Nancy - I flat out stated that if Sheep is town he needs to reconsider, and yes, sheep can fake that kind of outrage as scum.

Quit hatcheting me, Nancy.

what does hatcheting mean for you? b/c like my assumption of something like 'mercilessly attacking you' is really not what she's doing considering that most of her posts have just been her disagreeing with you about sheep

I made it up in this game that finished recently, which turned out to be exactly what Scum AP was doing.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/.php?p=10624066#p10624066


Basically, you know how chainsawing is when scum partner attacks the townie that’s pushing the partner?

It’s when someone is actively subtly discrediting, but not pushing the player that’s pushing a scum person.

Nancy is clearly hatcheting me, chopping away at my credibility by pushing her own self credibility, and protecting Sheep in its own right due to directly chopping at me

I hardcore disagree with everything Nancy has been saying.

[Flavor Leaf]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p10624066

Link broke. Mb.

[Flavor Leaf]

I also want to bring up the

Party Boat <— Sheep <— Nancy

Chain of pocketing.

Zero chance there isn’t scum within that.

I’ve been staying in the neighborhood that I think of anyone of the people in my neighborhood is scum, it’s Nancy. Unfortunate that Nancy is actively going against things now.

[Flavor Leaf]

The more I think about it, Party’s becoming like near Lock town for me.

Is your main outed, Party?

[Kokichi Oma]

kokichi isn't a day 3 ic, lol.

yes i am

[Flavor Leaf]

kokichi isn't a day 3 ic, lol.

yes i am

Yeah, you probably are.

[Party Boat]

The more I think about it, Party’s becoming like near Lock town for me.

Is your main outed, Party?

yeah you know it from the neighborhood chat and I've already misposted from it once this game

[Gamma Emerald]

@Nancy - link every game you’ve been in with ScumSheep, please.

Are you including offsite? If not I think there’s gonna be a sample size of 0.

[Gamma Emerald]

@Nancy - I flat out stated that if Sheep is town he needs to reconsider, and yes, sheep can fake that kind of outrage as scum.

Quit hatcheting me, Nancy.

what does hatcheting mean for you? b/c like my assumption of something like 'mercilessly attacking you' is really not what she's doing considering that most of her posts have just been her disagreeing with you about sheep

I made it up in this game that finished recently, which turned out to be exactly what Scum AP was doing.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/.php?p=10624066#p10624066


Basically, you know how chainsawing is when scum partner attacks the townie that’s pushing the partner?

It’s when someone is actively subtly discrediting, but not pushing the player that’s pushing a scum person.

Nancy is clearly hatcheting me, chopping away at my credibility by pushing her own self credibility, and protecting Sheep in its own right due to directly chopping at me

I hardcore disagree with everything Nancy has been saying.

I’ve acrually held the idea for a long time that scum take extra care to discredit correct conftown. Is that the core of what Hatcheting is?

[Flavor Leaf]

Yee

[TheBrie]

Been busy. Work, life, I'm tired. Read to the bottom of page 58. Will finish catch, up but probably not all today, as I've still got things that ought to be done. Gut likeing Flavour feaf for now. Should do meta on Trekkie. I alread ythough town there, and this confirmation seems good, whatever Flavours alignement.


UNVOTE:

PSA: People who clean carsw before selling them are good for the world. People who don't make somone else annoyed. I shouldn't complain, because I'm getting paid, but still...

[TheBrie]

End of 59. I see good points here. And if I hadn't mentioned, I'm reading PB as town.

Flavors posting has been fine so far but I don't see anything that couldn't come from scum just genuinely looking for another scumteam

I can elaborate on this later if anyone wants but I really really dislike varsoon trying to excuse his earlier lurking/bad play with the cop claim when he was claiming it, and considering how adamant he seemed about sheep being scum and that his reason for claiming it was 'proving me wrong' about people being willing to vote sheep I really don't see why sheep claiming vanilla would give varsoon a town read on him - I think it's more likely that varsoon originally thought sheep was probable other scumteam and the unvote after the unclaim was just to try to stay alive when his claim started to fall apart.

actually i have one more thing I want to add to this

Most of the Varsoon/Gemerald conversation right as varsoon replaced out I think WAS genuine on varsoon's part but was also based on shit that is not relevant to varsoon's alignment (varsoon being genuinely upset about gemerald's 'as a person you're worse than me' comment)

Like the only reason I think could be legit to read varsoon as town for replacing out there is just: it would be shitty of varsoon to botch a fakeclaim as scum and then dump it on a replacement.
But I also think regardless of his alignment that varsoon has both not really been into this game and didn't want to deal with Gemerald negatively, and I kind of doubt he'd take this into serious consideration compared to those first two things but he also could have thought as scum that he was almost certainly going to get lynched for fakeclaiming and botching it if he stayed in the game but there'd be a reasonable chance of a replacement turning things around for his playerslot/team.

Or, and relating to something Flavour said mentioning Wisdom, what do people think of Wisdom? He's been less noticeable in this game, than I'm accustommed to. I'm not used to forgettign he's there. And when I remeber that worries me. While usually he just worries me in general.

[TheBrie]

End of 61. The more Flavour insists he's obv town, the more suspicuoius I feel. On the other hand, He's got good points here, and my town read on Ganski is crumbling to pieces.

Spoiler:

Town

ganski
theta alpine
hebichan
wagonomics after the claim

Weak town

the brie
sheep
nancy drew
singletonking (I guess? this is barely more than null)
ausuka (my gut was scum but I don't trust my gut)

Eh

vaxkiller
wisdom
kokichi

Weak scum

purrcocet (again... barely more than null)
party boat
gamma emerald
0verkill
xtoxm

Scum

jaylow (his one post was godawful)
vonflare (this one is for the death miller claim then disappearing, should policy lynch if we don't decide on anyone else)
varsoon

Puts Varsoon, Vonflare, and a lurker as the scum, and then has xtoxm, Gamma, and party in lean scum.

Vonflare is lynchbait, party vs Varsoon are going at each other while in same neighborhood, xtoxm doesn’t make sense as scum with varsoon, that’s way too buddy buddy, and Gamma is the counter wagon.

VOTE: Light

I’m going to here. I await your response.

He's right, these reads, especially now, which is some hundreds of posts later, don't hold together. Ganksi's been quiet lately.

Although, I feel Sheep has scum claimed this game by staying on me, but yeah.

Sheep knows more than anyone in this game how controlling I can get as scum.

This wagon would not still be on me, or there would already be a counterwagon by now if I was scum.

When Sheep and I were scum together, I stated every little thing to him to help and try and benefit us all, including putting together a fake claim with wording, so he knows how controlling I can get as scum when in less than desirable positions.

On top of this, I know the majority of the players in this game and a scum hasn’t flipped yet. This implies I don’t have scum partners helping me out. You wanna know who doesn’t have scum partners? Town!

This game moves slow, so off wagonning, and conterwagonning, wouldn't happen at the usual rate.
And I don't understand the last paragraph at all. Why does no scum having flipped yet, mean Scum!flavour couldn't have scum partners helping him out? I don't get it.

[Wisdom]

not ai for me to be forgettable
just means im not interested