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[Gamma Emerald]

I have no idea how many vote are on me so I’ll just claim.
I’m a roleblocker. THAT is why I’d been pushing Theta: I GREATLY doubt there’s 2 Jailkeepers and a roleblocker all town in this game.
So now could we wagon actual fucking scum?

[TheBrie]

Also, why do people think Xtomx said this?

when are getting a new wagon value chart btw
i feel like the value of vaxcoin crashed a few pages back

Xtomx, what do you think of vaxcoin now, and why did you think it crashed? (Higher values equal scummier right?)

(Came back to find I'd not posted this last night. I've not read anything since my last post.)

[TheBrie]

P.edit. Just reread your post, it seems that your main reasons for scumreading me, Ausuka and ___ are our votes on Vax? How is that ever a good reason to scumread anyone?

I may be hard townreading sheep but unlike you, I’m not making the bizarre illogical leap, that all votes on him, are necessarily scummy.

I could also vote Gamma or put my vote back on Saudade or maybe even you because I find your Vaxwagon=scum, very concerning.

I did not say I was scum reading you for voting Vax. I'm not even hard towning Vax. I was just saying that I needed to find myself a stronger reason to vote Vax, than sheeping people I think a kind of townie.

(Still haven't read the rest of the game. Long day of work tomorrow, but I'll try to get it all read in the next 24h.

[TheBrie]

Actually on Vax, he seems kinda careless and guileless, but his votes are all of the place, and he's not hanging onto consistent thoughts. Which still doesn't mean scum. Bother. i was oping I'd find a better reason to vote him. Better than Nancy, Ausuka and oh, someone else, also voting him.
And looking deeper his hard TRing Flavour, then changing to voting him does make sense, but Flavour wagon wasn't going anywhere, so he's gone somewhere more useful.

Nancy, you quoted two posts from Vax, when you voted him, but you didn't give an explanation. Why do you think he's scum? It's not because he's voting your precious sheep?
(Granted, the post hwere he vote's sheep is one of his worst.)

Vax, why are you voting sheep? And why do you think Gamma's vote on you was bad? (Other than it being on you, and you being firmly convinced of your own innocence. (Or faking it. Take your pick.))

Gamma is actually doing stuff to push the game forward. Trying to get people to vote (Which I'm still not) and I think he's town.

He makes a post that tin foiling about the entire scumteam being replaced and then he votes sheep. How does this make any sense to you at all?

And why are Ausuka and me in particular, good votes?

Because I’m good at reading sheep off of meta and therefore don’t want to lynch one of my strongest townreads? Yeah, I can see why you’d find that suspicious.

I said the sheep vote was bad. I didn't say that made sense. His interaction with Flavour, makes sense looking from a certain angle. And i do tend to play Mafia by making a hypothesis about someone's actions, then seeing which one fits what i actually see best. 'cept sometimes I really can't tell which story in more reasonable.
(I really better read everything before I make more posts, but I probably will find something else to respond to.)

[TheBrie]

Actually, did I misconstrue your post? You meant better reasons to vote Vax, not that his voters were scum? If so, sorry about that and scumread on you retracted.

Knew I should have read more before responding. Exactly what I meant. Apology accepted. I was starting to feeling like you were misrepping me.

[TheBrie]

Oh, wait there wasn't that many posts to read. Sorry for the block of posts. Gammas' claim is interesting. I'm inclined to believe him. But i need sleep. (nearly 11pm)

[Xtoxm]

bad investment.
it crashed when he avoided all the wagons and talked about wanting a new one
further crashed when he called fl locktown

[Xtoxm]

btw at person
party boat bragged in the hood that id never get more than 3 votes on him today
you have 3 votes
wanna make him lose the brag

[Trekkie99]

Not sure how many votes Gamma has but I feel the claim was unnecessary. However the claim kinda feels town.

[Wisdom]

the claim does nothing for me

[Gamma Emerald]

the claim does nothing for me

Mhm. Until you explain why you’re voting me I’m going to assume you’re scum. I know you can and do explain reads as town, so you not doing so here plus the fact you have been able to read me well in past games says you’re scum.

[Wisdom]

you also know i can explain reads as scum so

[vonflare]

Wow lots of claims today u guys know it's only d1 right

[Wisdom]

its not d1

[Party Boat]

I have no idea how many vote are on me so I’ll just claim.
I’m a roleblocker. THAT is why I’d been pushing Theta: I GREATLY doubt there’s 2 Jailkeepers and a roleblocker all town in this game.
So now could we wagon actual fucking scum?

So does the fact that this post is hilariously similar to thetas calling out Leo not give you any pause at all?

Also I was sick yesterday but I'm actually gonna play the game a bit when I get home in half an hour *wow* *shock* *awe*

[Purrcocet]

Happy birthday gammaaaa

[Party Boat]

let's start with this

BOAT READS (not in order inside their categories)

town
trekkie
Purrcocet
singletonking
Xtomx
Wagonomics (post more tho plz)
Theta

I literally refuse to care until tomorrow for obvious reasons stop voting them for ONE day FUCK
kokichi

I have wanted to lynch these two for this entire like month and a half long day yes I still think they're scum
Saudade
Flavor Leaf

ALL of these people get words about them shortly and

are at various points of the town-scum scale.

actually let's just do my impressions for now I guess
leaning town
sheep
Nancy?
light_ganski kind of maybe I'm rereading her today so I'll figure out if she stays here or not I guess

leaning scum
TheBrie
Ausuka

I can't remember if you've made a post that leans moderately town or scum in the past month
wisdom
vonflare

we've needed a replacement for like 2-4 weeks now and it makes me sad
hebichan
theta even though he's on the townlist too

[singletonking]

I’m a roleblocker. THAT is why I’d been pushing Theta: I GREATLY doubt there’s 2 Jailkeepers and a roleblocker all town in this game.

Eh
I actually buy this as a valid reason to push Theta, in that I don't think there are 2 town Jailkeepers and a roleblocker
But the problem is that I still believe Theta's CC was quite town while I am scumreading Gamma
On the other hand I don't think Gamma pseudo-CCs like this as scum

I am leaning Gamma scum from this, but I want to first look at the self-resolving thing people have said because I forgot the details of it and I think it may be important. I'm too tired to do it now, though.

[Party Boat]

okay two things first: a disclaimer that I'm not rereading all the early shit regarding varsoon and everyone else arguing with him about outing the neighborhood and my opinion on sheep

the disclaimer - you can just skip this if you want it's more just my train of thought than actually relevant info

Spoiler: earlygame varsoon neighborhood nonsense

varsoon immediately posted in the neighborhood (as in like before I even posted in-game I think) that he was outing the neighborhood and if I remember correctly that he was just worried about scum using it to their advantage and like the first 15 or so pages of the main thread seemed very focused on that b/c varsoon kind of explained it like shit in-thread and wasn't as consistent explaining it in-thread as he was in the neighborhood
I thought it was pretty irrelevant to his and most other people's alignments then and for the most part I still do so unless someone has something specific they want to point out to me in that mess I'm going to ignore those pages until the end of time

SHEEP OPINION
I really, really liked sheep's day 1 posting

From basically the beginning of the game sheep was throwing out reads on people in what felt like a genuine way, his comments towards cheeky in #546 (https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p10609674) felt good, he was engaged enough that even though leo was a scumread of his he said he'd rather leo hold off on claiming for a little longer so he could post more and get other people to chime in first, aaand on day 2 his reaction to varsoon's utter horseshit of a claim also felt town considering that he was fine getting lynched if it meant varsoon/xtomx would get lynched later (him thinking xtomx is super likely scum at the time I thought was slightly dumb but a pretty natural reaction to a newer/younger player when getting hammered by two players out of nowhere, esp. when one is fakeclaiming a damn cop guilty on him)

oh and also I agreed with sheep d1 that it felt at the time that mostly town people were the ones actually playing the game at that point, and I thought that his d1 readslist made a pretty decent amount of sense even though it had a ton of people as null/yellow on it. mostly b/c it was still early game. but yeah I liked basically everything about sheep's earlygame and basically the only way I think he's scum is if he immediately figured out it was multiball and literally immediately started playing to hunt the other scumteam as hard and as genuinely as he could. And I don't think he's experienced enough as a player to play that way as scum.

next up is probably nancy and TheBrie and light_ganski but that may take a while. Probably gonna play some smash bros and come back to this in an hour or so.

[Kokichi Oma]

My ic activates at night and reveals day 3. Dont block me n2 just in case

[Kokichi Oma]

Anyway vote vax

[Jingle]

btw at person
party boat bragged in the hood that id never get more than 3 votes on him today
you have 3 votes
wanna make him lose the brag

Yes. Yes I do.

VOTE: Party Boat

the claim does nothing for me

Agreed. Gamma wagon viability doesn't change because of the claim. Still don't particularly care to lynch Gamma.

[Party Boat]

My ic activates at night and reveals day 3. Dont block me n2 just in case

Anyway vote vax

hey

hey

you know this effort thing i'm doing

why don't you try it

in case one of the claimed roleblockers is scum and blocks you now that you've claimed that

or there's an unclaimed scum roleblocker/jailkeeper because xyzzy felt like this game was COMEDY TIME

also if you think saying 'vote vax' will actually make anything happen in this game maybe you should reread the last 3 weeks of it and see how that's gone so far

p.s. hi jingle
it wasn't a brag btw, I said I would be genuinely surprised if more than 3 people voted me today given my play so far
and tho you have 3 votes you are not in fact 3 people

[Nancy Drew 39]

btw at person
party boat bragged in the hood that id never get more than 3 votes on him today
you have 3 votes
wanna make him lose the brag

Yes. Yes I do.

VOTE: Party Boat

the claim does nothing for me

Agreed. Gamma wagon viability doesn't change because of the claim. Still don't particularly care to lynch Gamma.

That post was over a week old

.

[Nancy Drew 39]

btw at person
party boat bragged in the hood that id never get more than 3 votes on him today
you have 3 votes
wanna make him lose the brag

Yes. Yes I do.

VOTE: Party Boat

the claim does nothing for me

Agreed. Gamma wagon viability doesn't change because of the claim.

Still don't particularly care to lynch Gamma

.

What do you make of this, @Wisdom?

PB made that post like on January freaking 6th!.

So, FL and Xtoxm are never w/w and FL is also never w/w with Jingle either.

FL isn’t opposed to Gamma lynch, so Gamma scum, townlocks FL, I think.

This sudden weird push on PB, just conveniently happening as Gamma wagon gets some traction?

Another good look for Flavor, there was virtually no resistance to his wagon.

Also, Jingle is it just my imagination or do you seem very different here than in Overkill 1?