Micro 844: Geriatric Half Mast Nightless [Endgame]

[Aubrey]

Gamma would be a poor pick. As would Slaxx due to CT's past. NL is the only option here that remotely makes sense seeing as we are at odds with one another, and he out of the three seemed to be sitting prettier at the end of D1.

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Moving on, I don't see why scum are the only ones in your mind that produce "

lazy

" reads. I have had little issue with your slot. Case and point. Do you think your play is deserving of more suspicion than I gave?

[u r a person 2]

I think this game encourages bussing resulting in more wifom when reading associations, so i don't think I agree with your first assessment.

Scum aren't the only ones that make lazy reads, however

I've got the most posts in the game and have been involved in pretty much all that has happened. Given your other reads, it does not make sense that town you doesn't give me a little more attention.

Further, you haven't expanded on the read yet, which you still can do and I would expect the average town player to have done that.

[u r a person 2]

Given your other reads, it does not make sense that town you doesn't give me a little more attention.

when I put it this way, it makes me sound really needy lol

[Aubrey]

Yeah it does.

And guess what, I'm not going to encourage that bad habit

My reads are out there. Do with them what you will.

[Slaxx]

If you're the goon, flag bearer is 1 in {gemma, NL, slaxx}

if you're the flagbearer, and I'm misinterpreting a read that is simply lazy (or made for some other reason), the other scum is likely oka or gemma.

If you are town, then there are 2 in {nl, slaxx, gemma, oka} with oka being the least likely scum

this is all off the top of my head. I'll try and go back and really look into associations again over the next couple days.

Your scumreads are the same regardless of the flip? Not a loaded question.

[Slaxx]

It’s no better than NL’s.

I don’t like the indirect answer of the question and I don’t like according to your logic there’s a 50/50 between NL and I but you aren’t doing anything to drive the wagons or even voting. I’ll probably hammer after Gamma catches up.

[Aubrey]

K.

[Aubrey]

I mean I don't really know what you want me to say here.

from an overall point of view i like Oka over NL. Both are sheeping a wagon on me on though. Am I really answering in a indirect way?

[u r a person 2]

Your scumreads are the same regardless of the flip? Not a loaded question.

yes and no

My town bloc of {shoshin, brass} doesn't change so there is a lot of similarity

I don't really see aubrey and oka picking oka as the FB, so oka is town after a red flip
I think if audrey is red, the scum equity increases for slaxx and NL and decreases for Gamma.

If audrey flips town, gamma and oka's scum equity increases a little and NL and slaxx equity decreases a little.

[Aubrey]

LOL. oddly reminds me of my thought process regarding my CT vote. Sucks being on the receiving end.

[OkaPoka]

I don't think scum busses today. Doesn't make sense as it would be too hard for them to win.

So either everyone is town voting Aubrey and Aubrey is scum or Aubrey is town.

Basically the question boils down to do I think that <Shoshin, NL, U2> are town, include <OkaPoka> if you aren't me, include <Slaxx> because he's essentially voting Aubrey.

I think its all town at this point.

That would mean Aubrey + Gamma or Aubrey + Brass.

Gamma is town.

Aubrey + Brass is gamesolve. stop townblocking brass.

[northsidegal]

Votecount 2.2

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Aubrey (4):

Shoshin 383, OkaPoka 401, no lunch 403, u r a person 2 417

Not voting (4):

Gamma Emerald, Aubrey, brassherald, Slaxx 406

With 8 alive, it’s 5 to lynch. The Day 2 deadline is in (expired on 2019-01-22 04:09:59).

[Slaxx]

Your scumreads are the same regardless of the flip? Not a loaded question.

yes and no

My town bloc of {shoshin, brass} doesn't change so there is a lot of similarity

I don't really see aubrey and oka picking oka as the FB, so oka is town after a red flip
I think if audrey is red, the scum equity increases for slaxx and NL and decreases for Gamma.

If audrey flips town, gamma and oka's scum equity increases a little and NL and slaxx equity decreases a little.

Leading a second scum lynch would make my scum equity go up? I know bussing is possible here but are you high?

[Slaxx]

I promise it wasn't a loaded question that answer just baffled me.

So, I find myself actually agreeing with Oka. If Aubrey flips red her Brass starts looking really bad in his ISO. We probably shouldn't be townblocking him. You/Shosh I think are the only people I am comfortable with seeing in endgame, lynching whoever is third. Hopefully we can get endgame on Day 3 or 4 though.

[Slaxx]

Fucking shit I keep forgetting about the damn flagBEAR

Maybe day 2? Don't think aubrey is flag guy tho.

[u r a person 2]

maybe, but that doesn't take away from the read. If I'm coming into CT's slot to find a scum role pm and neither of my teammates in the town bloc, I think I'm bussing pretty hard and seeing what happens. At least sometimes

[Slaxx]

maybe, but that doesn't take away from the read. If I'm coming into CT's slot to find a scum role pm and neither of my teammates in the town bloc, I think I'm bussing pretty hard and seeing what happens. At least sometimes

I know this probably just entrenches you in your view of me trying to scoot on bus cred, the more I talk about how lynching two scum makes me town, but that is an EXTREMELY stupid thing to do.

You don't sacrifice two people under less fire than yourself to to try to get towncred, you just eat the lynch.

[u r a person 2]

I think it's all game specific. Depends on the team mates, the town players, etc. Do you think you could carry the game from that position as scum?

I promise to go over brass from square one again here soon.

[Slaxx]

I think it's all game specific. Depends on the team mates, the town players, etc. Do you think you could carry the game from that position as scum?

I promise to go over brass from square one again here soon.

Do I think I could? Unlikely but maybe.

Would I double buss and try to to foment enough shit to outlast what, like 4 mislynches? No way. I'd eat dirt and let the buddies figure it out.

[OkaPoka]

u r a person 2, that would imply slaxx scum means useless scumbuddies basically?

[u r a person 2]

u r a person 2, that would imply slaxx scum means useless scumbuddies basically?

no, i would not say that. Certainly not that way.

[no lunch]

Lynching to hit a flag bearer at the expense of lynching to hit scum is an awful strategy.

[Gamma Emerald]

Page 5-8 of catchup

Okay, I'm even dumber than I thought, someone else said two in a different game, I said two early because I thought this was that game when I was posting originally, and now, I'm just a real idiot, so it was all me, I am wrong and like, that's really all I can say, I know you don't really believe me, Cheeky, but I can only report the news, not force you to believe.

I still think shoshin's handing out town reads like it's candy on Halloween is suspicious, which is why my vote has not changed.

I could see U2 as scum, but I feel he has moved more towards townie than scum since my last post and Shoshin has not.

You have been rubbing me wrong the whole game for some reason, Cheeky, but I can't put my finger on why so I haven't really brought it up because I don't want to try to sell a gut feel to anyone else, but I don't understand this push on no lunch at all, he's null on my reads, and I generally have fewer town reads than anyone on the site from my recollection.

Aubrey does not have enough content for me to be confident with but I'm not feeling that as scum anymore.

Slimer looks cool now, slimer is the town block.

I need more from No Lunch and Maestro.

For the first time ever, I'm going to provide a tiered read list, insert this anywhere you want, and it'll still be valid.
Town: {Me}
Scum: {It's everyone else, isn't it? I've lost}

Sorry Oka, but brass feels Town to me here.
Did you ever answer my question btw, Oka?

Invisible was obvscum in PYP early on and I was in a really bad place, personally, then. Specifically, my relationship with my fiance was falling apart and I played different because of that. I'm an emotional guy.

As to how handing out TRs helps scum, its the long con, I saw rb do it once where he handed out town reads and acted like he was bussing his team, but as the deadline approached, he'd inevitably "compromise" and lynch town.

To chime in on the subject, I saw rb do this in Mini 1905 I think, it’s been a while since that game happened.

Excellent, U2 tell me how it makes any sense to lock!town me and then a few posts later say oh no you did it too early?

giving people town reads too early is something I'm working on presently. In our game together, I town read pintu too early, too.

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I had this problem in my second coalition game too where I let DVa pocket me but then on reread I called her out, and she turned out to be scum.

okay

VOTE: cheeky

The problem, CT, is that you told me to check out their last

FEW

games.
You implied that you had done a meta dive of no lunch (you say you have no experience with them, but say they are far from their town meta -> you did a meta dive)
If you had done any meta work on No Lunch, you would have known they only have one game to look at.
But you told me to check out their last few games.

Analysis:
You misled town when you implied that you had looked into No Lunch's meta.

Town has no reason to do this.

You are scum.

Ooh. I have a personal interest in this misleading meta point as I’ve caught scum with it myself. In You’ve Got Mail, Thor presented a bunch of meta to try and justify a scumread on me, and I ended up ripping through it proving that their analysis of my games was way off, and if they had analyzed my games properly their read might make more sense, and I think I extrapolated from that info that Thor was bullshitting his sorting.
So I agree this is probably scum indicative for Cheeky.

Although probably not both of {maestro, oka}

It would be kind of weird for them both to come out in strong defense of cheeky with wall posts two minutes apart as a scum team

This is unironically funny to me.

Pray tell, why would that be weird if you see us both as Scum? Scum have Daychat cuz there's no Nights idjit they could be doing whatever the fuck they want. Also, I wasn't explaining

why I was quoting posts

, I was explaining why my catch-up was weirdly disjointed. It's like you're not even reading, my dude.

I agree with UPerson2’s post below: day chat makes it less likely they’d double up the defense. This makes me think Oka is town.

I'm sad that my townreads scumread me.

Not impressed by this AtE

[OkaPoka]

Nobody is proposing that?

@u r a person 2, then what do you mean when you say slaxx scum equity goes up with red flips

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I got asked a question?

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh I forgot to ask it
Who do you think is/was a lylo liability this game?