Mini Normal 2046: Autumn's Farewell [Endgame]

[Kmd4390]

Hmm, why did we lynch BEF again?

Mostly the obvious fake claim

[northsidegal]

VC 4.6

votes

[2] DrDolittle

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mbaki 2183, Suka 2279

[1] mbaki

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DrDolittle 2273

[1] Varsoon

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OkaPoka 2112

[1] Creature

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Varsoon 2371

[2] Not Voting

:

Creature 2294, Kmd4390 2381

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch

The Day 4 deadline is in

: (expired on 2019-01-20 04:15:59)

Mod Notes

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[mbaki]

It is also supported by Varsoon pushing DDL somewhat consistently.

[OkaPoka]

Is this where you vote varsoon? I think this is where you vote varsoon.

[Varsoon]

I'd prefer Creature, honestly.

[OkaPoka]

Meh, I'm feeling like we should ignore the claims. The game was way more interesting without the claims.

??

is this meme or srs

[Kmd4390]

Is this where you vote varsoon? I think this is where you vote varsoon.

Not likely for me. I think I'm between mbaki and drdoolittle today. Leaning drdoolittle now because I'm not sure mbaki points out varsoon is likely town if mbaki is scum.

[OkaPoka]

well i think that makes varsoon lynch mathematically impossible

time to actually reread

booo

[OkaPoka]

i still feel uneasy though.

if vork flips town, then tomorrow it feels almost natural to push bef.
but as creature echoed, I can also see them both as town.

this potentially hints at scum pushing narratives around and lining up easy mislynches.

I know! thats why Im feeling so uneasy

that's why Im really hoping vork flips red to calm my qualms

I think I would prefer a BEF lynch today.
1 - I think there's at most one scum in {BEF, Vork} and {BEF, mbaki}. That role flipping red clears our
2 - With conf bias, his wagon hop on me is extremely lazy and antitown ("for the sake of progress")
3 - I agree with what people said. BEF's reads today are extremely weak, and they feel more like continuing to set up mislynches.
4 - Meta-wise, this game reminds me of the last time BEF played scum, rather than BEF played town. His scum play seems more confident, vocally fights with frequent-posters, and then gradually shirks when there's more pressure.
5 - The story that rb-BEF teammates makes sense, although its weaker than rb-vork.

I'm still ok with Vork lynch, but right now, I would prefer a flip here instead. VOTE: bef

this progression is kinda weird in retrospect with vork at l1 its a bit hmm

I think scum'd pull off if they knew it'd flip town, if only to avoid catching flak for being on it.

I didn't like their early play and their constant interaction in the thread doesn't feel, to me, like they're trying to figure out the game nearly as much as it's just them setting up whatever lynch works.

also are you fucking kidding about this? How does pulling off vork not generate flak? Plus we rarely wagon analyze, and vork asso i could be sitting pretty rather than drawing attention to myself as scum.

there's no reason for scum-me to pull of vork + I was first vote anyways.

Of course, scum could know this and yadda yadda, so that is at most not alignment indicative.

example of a weird tone shifts in ddl isos

[OkaPoka]

ill skim mbaki next after i do some rl stuff

[OkaPoka]

mbaki, is creature still living up to your standards of him being in town meta?

[OkaPoka]

oh yeah mbaki self voted

[OkaPoka]

mbaki could you remind me why you self voted and why it made sense for us to get rid of u

[OkaPoka]

Cool, because my role makes more sense in an nsg setup than yours.

UNVOTE:

Meh, I'm starting to think Oka is more meant to be a negative utility.

expand on these please

[OkaPoka]

kmd what's your schedule like

[OkaPoka]

Is this where you vote varsoon? I think this is where you vote varsoon.

Not likely for me. I think I'm between mbaki and drdoolittle today. Leaning drdoolittle now because I'm not sure mbaki points out varsoon is likely town if mbaki is scum.

but mbaki points out varsoon is town in a niche scenario so i don't get how this makes mbaki town? or varsoon town?

[Creature]

Cool, because my role makes more sense in an nsg setup than yours.

UNVOTE:

Meh, I'm starting to think Oka is more meant to be a negative utility.

expand on these please

Initially I thought 5 town non-VTs sounded extreme, but let's take a look at what we have:

Follower = Like the only real important PR
Voyeur = Mostly useless
Universal Backup = Can at best backup follower
Commuter = Can only protect itself and can also burden investigatives
Ascetic = Can only burden investigatives

[Creature]

It looks really close to this game: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=76996

[OkaPoka]

so is ur gamesolve involving us lynching two from the vt claim pool?

[Creature]

(I was town ascetic there)

[Creature]

so is ur gamesolve involving us lynching two from the vt claim pool?

No, I think we ignore claims (barring Suka's obviously).

[OkaPoka]

because?

[Kmd4390]

kmd what's your schedule like

I work Wednesday and Thursday then I'm on vacation until like February 8ish

but mbaki points out varsoon is town in a niche scenario so i don't get how this makes mbaki town? or varsoon town?

Hmm?

[OkaPoka]

i dont get why mbaki gets towncred

[northsidegal]

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