Mini Normal 2046: Autumn's Farewell [Endgame]

[Varsoon]

And I also think that Moon also proposed Creature as a lynch for tomorrow, after you flip?
Regardless.

[mbaki]

Nah. Moongrass thinks Creature is town based on rolespec, iirc.
Not all that concerned.

I think its more on play. Role spec does implicate Oka, but I said that about 20 times earlier so I don't feel a need to rehash it.

And I also think that Moon also proposed Creature as a lynch for tomorrow, after you flip?
Regardless.

Unless I'm misremembering, he wants the next two lynches to be Oka and DDL. I think that's the best, but there won't be room for a Creature lynch if either of them is town, so if you are right then that's a loss. As the hypothetical townie with good reads vs a bunch of knuckleheads, its your job to carry, get what I mean?

But, Varsoon, I do still believe Oka is more likely to be scum than Creature. I am not sure who is more likely scum between you and Creature, its pretty close for me right now.

[Varsoon]

So we can pretty much rule out Moongrass and KMD, yeah?

This shouldn't be such an annoying solve.
Honestly,
Ay
Fuggit, man

VOTE: DDL

[mbaki]

Moongrass is off the table, ya. Kmd, there are points in both directions, if he's scum I think he just wins here anyways so its fine to rule him out.

[Varsoon]

Alright, then let's start to solve down from there.
Obviously, I think I should be off the table.
Everyone thinks THEY shouldn't be the lynch, though, so let's instead try to compile what people's PoE is and also the likelihood for each person being scum and the casework against each.

[Varsoon]

I'm going to be very honest right now. I don't recall any of what was posted on D2 and most of what happened on D1.

[Varsoon]

UNVOTE:

What's our time left?

[Creature]

You strive to be better you hypocritical jackass. You're sheeping somebody who wasn't here for most of the game, on town. I am still not voting you, despite you being the other major wagon AND being cased hard AND you voting me AND you actively refusing to put any real effort into the game, because for better or worse I still think you're town. I did my job of sorting you, despite the huge lack of help on your end via a lack of produced content. You didn't play the game, and now when you're back all you're doing is throwing. Moongrass is pushing me as partners with Oka, which is ludicrous reading day 2. I would say he is singlehandedly losing the endgame for town (because again - before he joined, DDL was in all odds the lynch, both his strongest town read (Creature) and his own god damn slot were voting it), but that wouldn't make sense because you're choosing to sheep him. Not that you show any interest in questioning him, no, that would be crazy! Even though he is pushing all lynches away from your top scum read, Creature, which you barely pursued at all. In fact, I don't think you've asked him about his Creature read once since he's joined despite that being your top scum read? Christ, writing this post I almost feel like I'm casing you and I should vote you here, but (and maybe I'm dumb for thinking this) I still don't think you're scum and lynching a town!you over me here is a game losing move.

[Creature]

VOTE: DDL

[Creature]

Apparently Moongrass is defending Kmd, so I'm going after the next LHF.

[Creature]

I need a couple more posts to get an average of 30.00 posts per day and then a couple more to beat DGB's postcount. Wanna help?

[mbaki]

UNVOTE:

What's our time left?

A day and a half.

I think it's likely DDL and Oka.

If DDL is town, its Kmd, but I feel very strongly DDL isn't town.

If Oka is town, could be you or Creature, Creature might be a little more likely but I don't know right now. If we flip DDL today we get to lynch 2 of you anyways, so there's a bit of breathing room.

Do you disagree anywhere here?

[Creature]

Maybe there's a way to test Varsoon's claim by making him target me and then I randing the 1-shot commute.

[Creature]

I don't feel like preserving me that much at this point.

[Varsoon]

The general willingness people have to vote for DDL makes me unsure of it but he's also been fairly non-present. :/

[Creature]

I wished I had willingness on atleast one player, but as I don't have, well, I still have to lynch someone.

[Moongrass]

Intent

[Varsoon]

Intent to what?

[Moongrass]

To hammer.

[Moongrass]

Intent to what?

What other kind of intent would there be?

[Creature]

DDL isn't even at L-1

Varsoon unvoted so it's just mbaki and I on him.

[Moongrass]

@Varsoon: why did you unvote?

[Varsoon]

Wanted to think over things more but eh
VOTE: DDL
I don't think this is gonna flip scum, though.
I really think my solve is right.

[mbaki]

Remind me what your solve is?

[DrDolittle]

@DDL: could you give a ranked list of your reads? It would also help to explain why your solve includes Oka, and yet you do not think that he is the optimal lynch?

I've reread a few parts of the game, and I can see a possible scum Creature. I can't shake the almost palpable desperation of Oka trying to rush through today though. (@Oka: I have read your cases...something something pie)

Can you talk about how you 180'd on your reads SOD?

My solution is creature mbaki that's why I refusing oka. What's SOD? If you are saying how you dont have doubts on your reads you're delusional.