Mini Normal 2046: Autumn's Farewell [Endgame]

[Moongrass]

why creature over one in ddl/mbaki?

Because of his disingenuous voting pattern, and x-shot claim.

I think there is higher scum equity in the Oka/Creature problem. DDL/mbaki can wait until the bad claims are resolved.

I'm still really liking an Oka/mbaki team. But that may need to wait because Creature will be too deep at Lylo.

[OkaPoka]

i mean ur going to have to explain more than that because i tr creature still

i dont think there is a high scum equity in me/creature

i do think it needs to be one of ddl/mbaki

thoughts?

[Moongrass]

DDL and mbaki have both reached L-1 today no problem. You and Creature on the other hand seem to have inexplicable resistance going on around your wagons.

[Moongrass]

@Oka: which is preferable for you out of DDL/mbaki?

[OkaPoka]

which indicates?

@moongrass honestly im leaning mbaki now because self hammer threat

[OkaPoka]

like the more i think about it, the more the self hammer threat is just ????

[Moongrass]

which indicates?

That scum doesn't care about lynching either mbaki or DDL.

[OkaPoka]

i dont see how that is relevant to alignment sorting or even accurate?

[OkaPoka]

u need to break this down like u broke down why you thought varsoon is town

[Moongrass]

i dont see how that is relevant to alignment sorting or even accurate?

It's not really relevant today.

Ok. So, self-voting is the scummiest thing you can find aside from Varsoon?

[OkaPoka]

about mbaki?

selfvoting and threatening to self hammer are def the scummiest things i find

[mbaki]

I am officially locking Varsoon as town for the remainder of the game after reflecting. GF asleep on my right arm so no lengthy left hand mobile post.

[mbaki]

about mbaki?

selfvoting and threatening to self hammer are def the scummiest things i find

It was not a threat.

[OkaPoka]

I don't know if crumbs should be used after what happened to vorkuta

Mbaki does AtE a lot, and it works i guess. But threatening to self hammer is really a form of AtE and so is self voting.

[OkaPoka]

maybe its creature but if creature flips town then u guys line up to me and then we lose

[OkaPoka]

which is why lynching creature today is no good because it would have to be an absolute certainty lynch

[OkaPoka]

at least one in ddl/mbaki moves the game along and resolves something

[Moongrass]

Then have reads that make sense so we don't lose? You've been on every mislynch.

[OkaPoka]

VOTE: mbaki

do this please

or ddl

[Moongrass]

GF asleep on my right arm so no lengthy left hand mobile post.

You know you play too much mafia when you have to reread this sentence 3 times before it says Girlfriend instead of GodFather.

[DrDolittle]

I want a mbaki lynch. If mbaki is green, it's probably gg since the next hammer is on me, although I'll try my best to fight it, but in the mbaki green flip I have no inklink on who is scum. Maybe kmd? I find it hard to believe a creature/oka team. It's a pretty bold move to claim two pr that similar in nature.

At night I want creature to commute and varsoon to verify. If inconsistent, lynch Creature then Varsoon for solve. If consistent, I'm more likely to push Oka I think.

[mbaki]

But then Varsoon would know what result to fake... what?

[Moongrass]

At night I want creature to commute and varsoon to verify. If inconsistent, lynch Creature then Varsoon for solve. If consistent, I'm more likely to push Oka I think.

DDL, if Varsoon is a Voyeur, then he only sees actions performed on his target. Not the action the target took...and even then, Creature is a commuter, nothing can target him when he uses the action.

This is why at least one of Creature/Oka must be scum as these roles seem strange with a Voyeur, or Follower. Town is weak enough with a UB/Voyeur/Follower, so a role like ascetic would only serve to weaken town further. On the other hand it would have positive utility as a goon modifier against what I think are the 3 true town PRs. I think commuter is more likely to be town, however the x-shot doesn't line up with the UB.

[Moongrass]

Moon - Follower
Varsoon - Universal backup --> Voyeur
Creature - 2-shot Commuter
Oka - ascetic
Kmd - VT
Mbaki - VT
DDL - VT

Creature thinks that both scum are in the VTs. We've had 4 VTs and our Voyeur die so far.

Assuming 3 scum - 3 PRs make sense no?

@Varsoon: you have solid modding experience, what do you think?

[DrDolittle]

DDL, if Varsoon is a Voyeur, then he only sees actions performed on his target. Not the action the target took...and even then, Creature is a commuter, nothing can target him when he uses the action.

yeah I wonder whether creature is even commuter. Scum-commuter makes little sense imo
so I want to see whether varsoon gets a no result