Mini Normal 2046: Autumn's Farewell [Endgame]

DrDolittle · Post Post #3000 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:34 am

btw im here to engage for the next hour or so before flight takes off.

Moongrass · Post Post #3001 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:52 am

In post 2999, DrDolittle wrote:
In post 2997, Moongrass wrote:DDL, if Varsoon is a Voyeur, then he only sees actions performed on his target. Not the action the target took...and even then, Creature is a commuter, nothing can target him when he uses the action.
yeah I wonder whether creature is even commuter. Scum-commuter makes little sense imo
so I want to see whether varsoon gets a no result

Varsoon would only get a result if someone else targeted Creature. I will be dead and the only other claimed PR is ascetic. If either PR were lying, they wouldn't use an action on Creature, because Varsoon is targeting him.

Creature · Post Post #3002 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:00 am

Varsoon would get no actions performed on Creature or something if I don't commute.

Moongrass · Post Post #3003 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:04 am

What would that prove though?

DrDolittle · Post Post #3004 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:04 am

no actioon vs no result is different.

Varsoon · Post Post #3005 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:05 am

Kinda wish I got Watcher instead of Voyeur because then I could soft-protect Moongrass tonight and draw the kill to myself.

DrDolittle · Post Post #3006 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:06 am

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=No_result

I think if creature is scum... he's not a commuter.

DrDolittle · Post Post #3007 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:13 am

i really think this is the right play. L4feedback

Moongrass · Post Post #3008 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:15 am

In post 3004, DrDolittle wrote:no actioon vs no result is different.

Yes, but if Varsoon checks Creature when he's not commuting, then what is he really checking? But, I think I get it. Varsoon can't target Creature when he's commuting, so he'll get "no-result" instead of "no action performed," or something.

@Varsoon: will you target creature tonight?

Varsoon · Post Post #3009 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:25 am

Thought we were lynching Creature today.

But yeah if we hit scum today then I'll check Creature because then I should get no result and there should be a kill.
Scum'll have to kill you since you're follower and would clear someone as town to hit them so Creature can't gambit on a no-kill and only commute if he's scum.
So I'd be aight with that but we really need to hit scum.

Moongrass · Post Post #3010 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:26 am

@DDL: why mbaki over Oka?

Varsoon · Post Post #3011 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:28 am

I'd take Oka before Mbaki or DDL at this point.

Moongrass · Post Post #3012 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:30 am

In post 3009, Varsoon wrote:Thought we were lynching Creature today.

But yeah if we hit scum today then I'll check Creature because then I should get no result and there should be a kill.
Scum'll have to kill you since you're follower and would clear someone as town to hit them so Creature can't gambit on a no-kill and only commute if he's scum.
So I'd be aight with that but we really need to hit scum.

I'm not sure what you mean. Why would Creature do the killing if there's two scum left? Why would a commuter be scum in this set-up?

DrDolittle · Post Post #3013 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:30 am

force creature to commute today or get lynched tomorrow

Moongrass · Post Post #3014 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:32 am

UNVOTE: I'll be away for a bit.

DDL, why not Oka?

DrDolittle · Post Post #3015 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:52 am

I think oka creature can be solved partially tomorrow via varsoon checking creature. So I dont even want to touch these two for now. What we need to know is how mbaki dolittle plays out. Sets town up in a way better position.

Plus, I scumread creature a tad more than oka I think

DrDolittle · Post Post #3016 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:53 am

Because oka could have hammered me easily when I'm l minus 1, and oka mbaki doesnt make sense. And I cant see oka scum making that manifesto on varsoon when there are easier lunches to push

Creature · Post Post #3017 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:28 am

In post 3013, DrDolittle wrote:force creature to commute today or get lynched tomorrow

*tonight

Sure, I'll do.

I wouldn't want to be present in 3p LyLo anyway.

Creature · Post Post #3018 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:29 am

In post 3015, DrDolittle wrote:I think oka creature can be solved partially tomorrow via varsoon checking creature. So I dont even want to touch these two for now.

Good luck lynching scum then

Creature · Post Post #3019 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:30 am

In post 3016, DrDolittle wrote:Because oka could have hammered me easily when I'm l minus 1

At the risk of being outed tomorrow plus clear me?

Creature · Post Post #3020 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:31 am

We're not lynching Moongrass. Varsoon and I should be left to resolve each other. Oka will be resolvable through my alignment.

That'd leave you (DDL), Kmd and mbaki.

Creature · Post Post #3021 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:32 am

I don't think you're scum rn DDL, so today's lynch is between Kmd and mbaki.

Take your pick.

mbaki · Post Post #3022 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:46 am

Marvelous.

mbaki · Post Post #3023 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:03 am

There are 17 hours. I am fine with us doing Oka if a DDL lynch isn't happening.

Creature · Post Post #3024 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:05 am

In post 3015, DrDolittle wrote:I think oka creature can be solved partially tomorrow via varsoon checking creature. So I dont even want to touch these two for now. brah brah brah brah brah brah. brah brah brah.

Plus, I scumread creature a tad more than oka I think