Mini Normal 2046: Autumn's Farewell [Endgame]

Moongrass · Post Post #3100 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:39 pm

In post 3091, Creature wrote:
In post 3090, mbaki wrote:prepping for Oka's town flip in this hypothetical scum Creature scenario?
If I think the team is you and Varsoon, who do you think I am more likely to hammer between you and Oka?

I told you your vote on Oka was bs lol.

Moongrass · Post Post #3101 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:44 pm

In post 3097, Creature wrote:
In post 3095, mbaki wrote:there's little way scum gets a UB
What if his UB claim is actually fake?

His reactions to BEF's claim, suka's vote, and your claim say it's not fake at all.

You need to discredit him if your role is fake.

Creature · Post Post #3102 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:47 pm

In post 3101, Moongrass wrote:
In post 3097, Creature wrote:
In post 3095, mbaki wrote:there's little way scum gets a UB
What if his UB claim is actually fake?
His reactions to BEF's claim, suka's vote, and your claim say it's not fake at all.

You need to discredit him if your role is fake.

How my claim makes his claim more believable though?

Creature · Post Post #3103 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:48 pm

I don't think he was expecting anything even remotely close to commuter when he claimed that.

Moongrass · Post Post #3104 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:49 pm

In post 3102, Creature wrote:How my claim makes his claim more believable though?

What are you asking? His role works well with the existing weak town PRs. It doesn't need your role to exist to be credible.

Moongrass · Post Post #3105 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:50 pm

In post 3103, Creature wrote:I don't think he was expecting anything even remotely close to commuter when he claimed that.

You claimed before him?

mbaki · Post Post #3106 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:50 pm

In post 3104, Moongrass wrote:
In post 3102, Creature wrote:How my claim makes his claim more believable though?
What are you asking? His role works well with the existing weak town PRs. It doesn't need your role to exist to be credible.

This. Low town power means UB has low swing, and swing is the biggest issue with the role.

Moongrass · Post Post #3107 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:58 pm

If Oka flips town lynch Creature tomorrow. That should buy you another day.

mbaki · Post Post #3108 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:03 pm

I agree, though I thought that was already the plan.

Meanwhile, that doesn't give us space to sort out myself / DDL / Kmd.

Creature · Post Post #3109 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:03 pm

Would UB inherit ascetic? That would really suck for Varsoon if Oka was the first death.

Creature · Post Post #3110 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:03 pm

In post 3109, Creature wrote:Would UB inherit ascetic?

If yes, then Varsoon/Oka are more in contradiction between each other than I am with either Varsoon or Oka.

Kmd4390 · Post Post #3111 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:06 pm

In post 3093, Creature wrote:
In post 3084, Kmd4390 wrote:Decisions are hard.
Would it be fair to leave the hammer decision to Kmd?

God please no lol. I don't want to be wrong. Talk to me about Varsoon though. Why do you still think he can be scum?

Creature wrote:Deadline ending when like everyone will be completely asleep doesn't help.

When is it? I'm usually up late.

Moongrass · Post Post #3112 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:08 pm

In post 3108, mbaki wrote:I agree, though I thought that was already the plan.

Meanwhile, that doesn't give us space to sort out myself / DDL / Kmd.

You should have each day to sort yourselves. If Creature flips scum he could realistically be a buddy to any of you.

Kmd4390 · Post Post #3113 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:10 pm

In post 3112, Moongrass wrote:
In post 3108, mbaki wrote:I agree, though I thought that was already the plan.

Meanwhile, that doesn't give us space to sort out myself / DDL / Kmd.
You should have each day to sort yourselves. If Creature flips scum he could realistically be a buddy to any of you.

The VT claims that are town are never getting NK'd though. Maybe it makes more sense to sort us first...

Moongrass · Post Post #3114 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:12 pm

In post 3113, Kmd4390 wrote:The VT claims that are town are never getting NK'd though. Maybe it makes more sense to sort us first...

It makes sense to lynch scum PR claims that imbalance the game before Lylo to buy you extra time if Oka flips town.

Kmd4390 · Post Post #3115 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:12 pm

Varsoon wrote:Wanted to think over things more but eh
VOTE: DDL
I don't think this is gonna flip scum, though.
I really think my solve is right.

Ugh then why vote there after Moon said he'd hammer?

OkaPoka · Post Post #3116 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:13 pm

hi guys im here im tired and stuff but im here

Moongrass · Post Post #3117 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:16 pm

@Oka: do you think kmd or Creature are scum?

Kmd4390 · Post Post #3118 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:16 pm

oh, deadline is in 7 hours. Yeah, I'll be sleeping.

OkaPoka · Post Post #3119 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:16 pm

i think its varsoon + mbaki/ddl but im not going to argue about varsoon

mbaki · Post Post #3120 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:17 pm

In post 3109, Creature wrote:Would UB inherit ascetic? That would really suck for Varsoon if Oka was the first death.

If Oka is scum aligned and Varsoon is town, this isn't an issue.

I believe they should inherit Ascetic from the same alignment, but I haven't seen that interaction so can't say for sure.

@Mod

could provide the best answer.

OkaPoka · Post Post #3121 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:17 pm

Moongrass is like a worse version of TTTT

Kmd4390 · Post Post #3122 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:18 pm

In post 2864, Creature wrote:
In post 2862, Moongrass wrote:Both roles could be bs, which I can see, and which you may have slipped when you said you thought both scum were VT claims.

Your x-shot role doesn't make sense with the UB. Oka's role doesn't make sense full stop. Oka wouldn't leave Suka alone about whether or not she was x-shot. You defended my push on Oka by asking me to prove his role didn't make sense.
My role can be proved if Varsoon targets me

Also, why tf would Oka fakeclaim ascetic if Suka hinted targeting Oka?

Could be scum ascetic.

OkaPoka · Post Post #3123 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:19 pm

Can I just say I'm town or do I need to argue things because arguing is very exhausting and id prefer if we just agreed im town

alternative is i can pull something out of my scum playbook and complain but thats also very hard

northsidegal · Post Post #3124 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:19 pm

In post 3120, mbaki wrote:
In post 3109, Creature wrote:Would UB inherit ascetic? That would really suck for Varsoon if Oka was the first death.
If Oka is scum aligned and Varsoon is town, this isn't an issue.

I believe they should inherit Ascetic from the same alignment, but I haven't seen that interaction so can't say for sure.
@Mod
could provide the best answer.

A Universal Backup, upon the first death of a power role of the Universal Backup's alignment, inherits that power role for their own use. The term "power role" refers to any non-vanilla role.