no deadlines mafia [game over]

[Wisdom]

She did it to me in another game too
don't think its scum indicative

[Wagonomics]

Nancy are you still feeling good about Saudade?

Like, Xtoxm I understand you're feeling sassy, but right now I know I am town, and I feel Nancy is strongly town, and there has to be a significant number of town on Saudade. So I feel strongly it is a town-driven wagon. That doesn't mean it isn't a town-driven mislynch, though, and I understand your concerns that the case isn't strong. It isn't because it can't be because the slot replaced out from apathy twice, basically.

But my other two strongest townreads were on light and are now on mastina, but I don't really super strongly scumread mastina or light. I kinda townlean light, and mastina I just want to see a bit more from before deciding.

I know you feel really strongly that mastina is scum, but right now I have to ask myself whether:
a) I'm definitely wrong about Saudade (I could be but he seems like a good flip right now)
b) Whether scum would bus (I think they would)
c) Whether you're right in your scumreads (I'm not so sure)
d) Whether there's a chance I'm wrong on you and Flavor (I feel a lot stronger that Flavor/Varsoon is town than I do that Saudade is scum, for instance)

Looking at those responses, I'm not certain Saudade is wrong, although I am having some doubts

[Nancy Drew 39]

Nancy are you still feeling good about Saudade?

Like, Xtoxm I understand you're feeling sassy, but right now I know I am town, and I feel Nancy is strongly town, and there has to be a significant number of town on Saudade. So I feel strongly it is a town-driven wagon. That doesn't mean it isn't a town-driven mislynch, though, and I understand your concerns that the case isn't strong. It isn't because it can't be because the slot replaced out from apathy twice, basically.

But my other two strongest townreads were on light and are now on mastina, but I don't really super strongly scumread mastina or light. I kinda townlean light, and mastina I just want to see a bit more from before deciding.

I know you feel really strongly that mastina is scum, but right now I have to ask myself whether:
a) I'm definitely wrong about Saudade (I could be but he seems like a good flip right now)
b) Whether scum would bus (I think they would)
c) Whether you're right in your scumreads (I'm not so sure)
d) Whether there's a chance I'm wrong on you and Flavor (I feel a lot stronger that Flavor/Varsoon is town than I do that Saudade is scum, for instance)

Looking at those responses, I'm not certain Saudade is wrong, although I am having some doubts

Yes, he has done nothing that reads town to me, since replacing in and I really hated Jaylow’s opening. I also think he may have a TMI on FL, seems like he

knows

he’s being pocketed.

I am open to hearing other suggestions but I don’t understand why Ausuka is scum.

I don’t remember who Enter replaced but I’m townreading his slot.

[Xtoxm]

you, trekkie and i guess koki are my only townreads on the wagon, obviously jingle too if he joins
i think its a lynch on an absent slot that if it comes up town will tell no one anything about the game state, and serves only to reduce numbers
saudade has flaked the site (like he'll come back at some point prob but him needing replacement here doesnt mean anything for his alignment), and im pretty sure jaylow would have flaked regardless of his role
the game is likely multiball so it could come up scum but its not something im enthusiastic about

[Wagonomics]

Yeah I'm not feeling Ausuka rn

Like, I'd be interested in if anyone has really strong reads of people like Trekkie, Singleton, or vonflare

is there "damn that's scum" somewhere in those 3? such that they would be enough to shift from Saudade/Jaylow? Otherwise I'd rather just get the flip on Saudade tbh

[Wagonomics]

trekkie

ok, can you expand on that a bit because strong TR of trekkie would help me a bit

[Xtoxm]

there was a game that i flaked out of a bit earlier that trekkie was scum in and his play here is worlds apart from that
sheep linked it like ages ago

[Wisdom]

but I don’t understand why Ausuka is scum.

you dont need to

[Wagonomics]

Cool, is singleton or vonflare a strong scumread?

[Xtoxm]

singleton - no
vonflare - sorta yeah. the miller thing does look like a scum claim to me. hes also capable of better play than this as town but i dont think he signed up to this game to actually play mafia so i cant say i'd be shocked if hes town.

[Wagonomics]

alright well I'll reread vonf and mastina a bit but I'm still kinda feeling okay with this saudade wagon rn tbh

like yes, we have to hope scum is bussing, because there's definitely scum on the wagon, which is concerning, but if scummy people can derail a wagon just by getting on it then that can screw up town's sorting process too

[mastina]

Why's Purr scum if Saudade is town? Do you think Purr is trying to line up a mislynch on sheep after this? I suppose that could be read out of what they said. But Purrocet at least is one of the people who is actually attempting to run wagons counter to Saudade and Ausuka.

It's not people's actions that make me townread some and scumread others.

It's the WAY that they are doing those things.

The players I'm townreading, it's hard to explain, but basically what they're pushing, it looks like they sincerely believe. Regardless of Saudade, Ausuka, or other, they genuinely feel what they appear to, even if it's resignation or desperation.

The people who I'm scumreading, on the other hand, are disingenuous. Their stances have an agenda attached to them, where there's a clear end goal in their actions.

Purrcocet reeks of knowing both wagons are town and is setting up a mislynch for when they flip town.

[mastina]

Eh I think triggering people is his playstyle

Absolutely not.

I literally JUST saw his townplay in StarCraft; this is not it. I know what his scumplay looks like; it's literally what he's doing this game.

[mastina]

Mastina, there was a question Brie asked you that I also wanted to ask but you didn't answer: Why is Trekkie scum? He said a lot of townie things upon replacing in, and while his activity has died down somewhat, I don't really see anything pointing to him being scum.

She answered her own question; poe. Plus, those mythical good posts? I sure as fuck don't see them. All I've seen from Trekkie is stuff that supports the poe scumread.

[mastina]

daily reminder that mastina is confscum

Daily reminder that giving daily reminders is an excuse to active lurk and avoid giving real content.

[mastina]

Cool, is singleton or vonflare a strong scumread?

singleton? Yes. Vonflare? No.

[Jingle]

daily reminder that mastina is confscum

Daily reminder that giving daily reminders is an excuse to active lurk and avoid giving real content.

Daily reminder that I'm going to hammer and would rather not be prodded until then.

[Nancy Drew 39]

but I don’t understand why Ausuka is scum.

you dont need to

Uh yeah, I actually do. I’m not voting Ausuka because some people scumread her. If I don’t understand the case on her, I’m not voting her.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Eh I think triggering people is his playstyle

Absolutely not.

I literally JUST saw his townplay in StarCraft; this is not it. I know what his scumplay looks like; it's literally what he's doing this game.

Do you have any links to an Xtoxm’s scumgame?

[Wisdom]

ok then enjoy your mislynch

[Nancy Drew 39]

ok then enjoy your mislynch

You actively encouraged us to lynch Leo.

[Wisdom]

irrelevant

[Nancy Drew 39]

irrelevant

How? You were wrong on Leo, how do we know you’re not wrong on Ausuka?

[Nancy Drew 39]

Why's Purr scum if Saudade is town? Do you think Purr is trying to line up a mislynch on sheep after this? I suppose that could be read out of what they said. But Purrocet at least is one of the people who is actually attempting to run wagons counter to Saudade and Ausuka.

It's not people's actions that make me townread some and scumread others.

It's the WAY that they are doing those things.

The players I'm townreading, it's hard to explain, but basically what they're pushing, it looks like they sincerely believe. Regardless of Saudade, Ausuka, or other, they genuinely feel what they appear to, even if it's resignation or desperation.

The people who I'm scumreading, on the other hand, are disingenuous. Their stances have an agenda attached to them, where there's a clear end goal in their actions.

Purrcocet reeks of knowing both wagons are town and is setting up a mislynch for when they flip town.

If this is relevant, Purr sent me fruit, N1.

[Flavor Leaf]

daily reminder that mastina is confscum

I’ll be back in a day or 2. Busy busy