Open 746: Bus Service [Game Over]

[Sashaddin]

sashaddin what do you think is generally the best way to find scum?

Making them talk so people have a chance to catch a slip is one.
Analyzing how wagons form/dissolve is sometimes useful too.

[rb]

okay thanks

[Sashaddin]

I think the random voting stage is over and everyone is stsring to play.

That's cool. Who's the most scummy to you now?

[FallenDown]

I think the random voting stage is over and everyone is stsring to play.

That's cool. Who's the most scummy to you now?

Right now, it's Flubber. He comes, asks for an L1 and leaves. Not enough for me to vote him, but I don't like his tone. Seems like an evil following other people voting.

[rb]

is flubber bad enough to do this as scum

[BuJaber]

Lol @rb's wiki.

Seriously though rb you don't sound like your townie self. It's like your commenting on things but not really sharing an opinion on things that matter.

[rb]

ok

[rb]

that was a statement

this is a mafia game

[rb]

how im doing boss??

[rb]

im tired and going to bread

goodnight

[Clemency]

that was a statement

this is a mafia game

this is america

[BuJaber]

I see this game is going to be harder than normal.

Eyes without a face is town.

[TTTT]

I see this game is going to be harder than normal.

Eyes without a face is town.

why?
why?

[BuJaber]

I see this game is going to be harder than normal.

Eyes without a face is town.

why?
why?

Because the way I play doesn't jam well with some people here and it is affecting their behavior.

Because I have liked his response to both me and Akarin. I find that it is rare for scum to combine the two things eyes has done. Wrt me he has commented on and refuted my indirect defense of him, despite the fact that it could have made me suspicious of him (as his explanation proves I misread his post). Wrt akarin he has not only defended himself adequately but turned it around on akarin in a counter-case that is well-written and convincing.

Given the timing and the way he did both of these things at around the same time I believe he is town.

If he were scum I would expect him to want to try and get me on his side before attacking akarin, since akarin is the one who commented on his vote in the first place. I understand there is always the WIFOM argument, but I believe it is counter-intuitive for him to risk me joining akarin's side before he himself launching a counter-attack on akarin.

[Flubbernugget]

Fuck me I completely forgot about this

UNVOTE: Clemency

For forgetting.
VOTE: Flubbernugget

rvs is over

Nobody's posted anything interesting enough that I'm convinced on this

[Flubbernugget]

is flubber bad enough to do this as scum

You know my scum game

[Akarin]

That and my reasoning obviously does not lead to a lynch, as nobody would ever think "Oh, he's right. They have no avi so let's vote them."

Eliot is voting me for doing something they view as scummy, which could lead to a lynch if others listened to them.

Your vote was silly, but it was NAI to me. Eliot's looked like they're trying top build a wagon on me for real.

I would also note that Clemency had 3 votes on him before I voted, so if I wanted an easy lynch I should have joined his wagon instead, but since I didn't then your argument is clearly silly (see the underlined statement above), and makes Eliot's parroting of it even scummier.

I am NOT saying that Eyes was posting a case that would lead to lynch. This obviously isn't the case. I'm saying Eyes was getting on the Fallen wagon early, for a very minor reason (or no reason, which is the same thing), but if Fallen had reacted badly to early pressure and built up a big wagon then Eyes is already on that wagon before it looks opportunistic.

Additionally all the discrediting language here really pings me, especially as it legitimizes one of the votes on the wagon so as to not be

too

defensive.

[Akarin]

Speaking of Akarin, I almost voted for him last night, because of 25 and 27. I finally didn't and it cost me a prod

Her.

And what caused you to hesitate?

[Akarin]

I don't understand how BuJaber and rb thinks that's a convincing counter-case but it makes me think BuJaber is very likely town.

[Sashaddin]

Her.

And what caused you to hesitate?

Sorry!

I finally thought my argument was a bit reaching, and I was really sleepy so I spent like 15 seconds on the question instead of taking my time.

[Lovebird]

No if it is conceivable that town would do something and scum do it, it's not stupid by scum.

I'm not saying never joke, but joke claims are distracting at best and nefarious at worst. Unfortunately they'll never go away, because town continue to do so. It's stupid because it doesn't move the game forward but it makes other townies forced to think about it and analyze it. It also continues to give scum this out. "Let's make dumb claim jokes because town do it"

So congratulations to whichever one of you is scum. You just assimilated yourself to the majority.

Okay. I don't think this makes sense. But, I think you're town anyways

[Lovebird]

The claim is stupid if town, it's way more likely to be from scum.

How is it stupid?

^
if its stupid as town, wouldnt that make it stupid as scum too?

Can we get a response to this, lovebird? If you are town, it would be more likely for you to ask questions about why the claim is more likely to be from scum than how it is stupid.

What?

Sorry, I don't get what you mean.

[Lovebird]

I mean it's just hard for me to pinpoint what exactly makes them towny with so little to go off of.

Truth is, it was just a feeling. I said it to get responses. And, also because early townreads were becoming scumtell for me, so I want to start doing it in towngames too.

Idk what to think of your response yet. Not towny also wanting to have my townreads, but not scummy trying to doubt my townreads. Maybe you're scum and I scumread a buddy? Probably not

[Lovebird]

There's no playlist I can copy paste to do PoE...

[Lovebird]

Playerlist I mean.