Open 746: Bus Service [Game Over]

[Lovebird]

Rb what do you think of this?

VOTE: Elliot

[Lovebird]

Akarin I think is also scummy. This is an awkward post

That and my reasoning obviously does not lead to a lynch, as nobody would ever think "Oh, he's right. They have no avi so let's vote them."

Eliot is voting me for doing something they view as scummy, which could lead to a lynch if others listened to them.

Your vote was silly, but it was NAI to me. Eliot's looked like they're trying top build a wagon on me for real.

I would also note that Clemency had 3 votes on him before I voted, so if I wanted an easy lynch I should have joined his wagon instead, but since I didn't then your argument is clearly silly (see the underlined statement above), and makes Eliot's parroting of it even scummier.

I am NOT saying that Eyes was posting a case that would lead to lynch. This obviously isn't the case. I'm saying Eyes was getting on the Fallen wagon early, for a very minor reason (or no reason, which is the same thing), but if Fallen had reacted badly to early pressure and built up a big wagon then Eyes is already on that wagon before it looks opportunistic.

Additionally all the discrediting language here really pings me, especially as it legitimizes one of the votes on the wagon so as to not be

too

defensive.

[Lovebird]

Her.

And what caused you to hesitate?

Sorry!

I finally thought my argument was a bit reaching, and I was really sleepy so I spent like 15 seconds on the question instead of taking my time.

Oh, this is towny

[Lovebird]

VOTE: clemency

I'm bored and I'm going to fish for an L1. Wagon harder people

I guess this is towny too

[Lovebird]

Okay, good start

[Eliot Ness]

I don't like the way you're conducting business here, lovebird. You're asking lots of questions that make me wonder why you asked them. Asking questions alone does not make you towny. Analysis does. What is your vote on us for, exactly? What are your actual opinions beyond just the "This is towny, this is not?" Any scum can ask questions to look town, and I think that's exactly what you're doing here.

[Eliot Ness]

I especially don't like the vote because I happen to be the only slot pressuring you right now. To us, that looks like an attempt to set up an argument that we would be omgus if we vote for you.

[Eliot Ness]

VOTE: lovebird

[Lovebird]

I don't like the way you're conducting business here, lovebird. You're asking lots of questions that make me wonder why you asked them. Asking questions alone does not make you towny. Analysis does. What is your vote on us for, exactly? What are your actual opinions beyond just the "This is towny, this is not?" Any scum can ask questions to look town, and I think that's exactly what you're doing here.

Huh? What questions am I even asking? I don't think I'm asking any pointless questions.

I especially don't like the vote because I happen to be the only slot pressuring you right now. To us, that looks like an attempt to set up an argument that we would be omgus if we vote for you.

Wow, someone who thinks I'm diabolical genius instead of dumb. Is it opposite day?

[Eliot Ness]

The claim is stupid if town, it's way more likely to be from scum.

How is it stupid?

This is the question that pinged us.

If you’re town here, you should be asking why it is scummy, not why it is stupid.

1. It assumes the person is town, which is concerning
2. A Townie would be more interested in why it’s more likely to come from scum and
3. Because of this, it looks more like a filler question than genuine scumhunting, and combined with the naked vote on us along with the lack of reasoning of any reads, looks like someone trying to seem like they are busy without actually digging in to any stances.

[Lovebird]

The claim is stupid if town, it's way more likely to be from scum.

How is it stupid?

^
if its stupid as town, wouldnt that make it stupid as scum too?

Can we get a response to this, lovebird? If you are town, it would be more likely for you to ask questions about why the claim is more likely to be from scum than how it is stupid.

I thought this was a weird question and felt like voting you

[Lovebird]

The claim is stupid if town, it's way more likely to be from scum.

How is it stupid?

This is the question that pinged us.

If you’re town here, you should be asking why it is scummy, not why it is stupid.

1. It assumes the person is town, which is concerning
2. A Townie would be more interested in why it’s more likely to come from scum and

Lol. He says why it's scummy. It's scummy because it would be stupid as town. So, I ask how it's stupid as town

Because of this, it looks more like a filler question than genuine scumhunting, and combined with the naked vote on us along with the lack of reasoning of any reads, looks like someone trying to seem like they are busy without actually digging in to any stances.

Hm, sounds familiar

[Eliot Ness]

Thats not at all how I read it but he can weigh in on that.

And what do you mean sounds familiar? Why be coy? Just say what you want to say.

[Eliot Ness]

The claim is stupid if town, it's way more likely to be from scum.

How is it stupid?

^
if its stupid as town, wouldnt that make it stupid as scum too?

Can we get a response to this, lovebird? If you are town, it would be more likely for you to ask questions about why the claim is more likely to be from scum than how it is stupid.

I thought this was a weird question and felt like voting you

Why not wait until we clarify to vote?

A question you want clarified was more deserving of a vote than any of the other stuff you pointed out?

Also I don’t like how you tried to just undercut your own intellegence to downplay our argument

[Lovebird]

Why not wait until we clarify to vote?

Why would I?

It's just one vote, idk why it bothers you so much.

A question you want clarified was more deserving of a vote than any of the other stuff you pointed out?

Also I don’t like how you tried to just undercut your own intellegence to downplay our argument

Deserving of a vote? Idk. I felt like you were a good vote though. Doesn't have to be for stuff you've already said.

And, I'm not undercutting my own intelligence. Read what I said again

Just a change of pace to see someone say that.

[Lovebird]

You're asking lots of questions that make me wonder why you asked them.

Btw, you said this. Any other questions I'm asking, or just that one?

[Eliot Ness]

The vote on me in isolation isn’t what bothers me, figured you might go there. Eyes vote on us didn’t bother me. The context matters and I think you know that, given that our discussion has been more focused on the context than a reaction to the vote itself.

I think the other question was just paired with the vote, wasn’t great but I don’t find AI in that.

[Eliot Ness]

Why not wait until we clarify to vote?

Why would I?

It's just one vote, idk why it bothers you so much.

A question you want clarified was more deserving of a vote than any of the other stuff you pointed out?

Also I don’t like how you tried to just undercut your own intellegence to downplay our argument

Deserving of a vote? Idk. I felt like you were a good vote though.

Doesn't have to be for stuff you've already said.

And, I'm not undercutting my own intelligence. Read what I said again

Just a change of pace to see someone say that.

Clarify the boldest?

[Eliot Ness]

Thats not at all how I read it but he can weigh in on that.

And what do you mean sounds familiar? Why be coy? Just say what you want to say.

Also would you like to expand on “sounds familiar”

Felt like needless shade.

[rb]

Rb what do you think of this?

VOTE: Elliot

at first i preferred akarin, but after this page i also like this

VOTE: Elliot

[Flubbernugget]

Their argument is just as contrived as everything else that's happened so far

[rb]

is flubber bad enough to do this as scum

You know my scum game

one game isn't knowledge

plus you know that i know

i don't consider it relevant

[mcqueen]

Speaking of Akarin, I almost voted for him last night, because of 25 and 27. I finally didn't and it cost me a prod

Can you explain this better? I just don't understand if it's a joke, and if it's not... well then I don't get it at all.

[mcqueen]

That and my reasoning obviously does not lead to a lynch, as nobody would ever think "Oh, he's right. They have no avi so let's vote them."

Eliot is voting me for doing something they view as scummy, which could lead to a lynch if others listened to them.

Your vote was silly, but it was NAI to me. Eliot's looked like they're trying top build a wagon on me for real.

I would also note that Clemency had 3 votes on him before I voted, so if I wanted an easy lynch I should have joined his wagon instead, but since I didn't then your argument is clearly silly (see the underlined statement above), and makes Eliot's parroting of it even scummier.

I am NOT saying that Eyes was posting a case that would lead to lynch. This obviously isn't the case.

I'm saying Eyes was getting on the Fallen wagon early, for a very minor reason (or no reason, which is the same thing), but if Fallen had reacted badly to early pressure and built up a big wagon then Eyes is already on that wagon before it looks opportunistic.

Additionally all the discrediting language here really pings me, especially as it legitimizes one of the votes on the wagon so as to not be

too

defensive.

I'm having trouble reading Eyes and Akarin atm, but, I don't quite like this post. The bolded section just seems too out-there to really push someone for.

[mcqueen]

I don't like the way you're conducting business here, lovebird. You're asking lots of questions that make me wonder why you asked them. Asking questions alone does not make you towny. Analysis does. What is your vote on us for, exactly? What are your actual opinions beyond just the "This is towny, this is not?" Any scum can ask questions to look town, and I think that's exactly what you're doing here.

I mostly agree with this. I'm getting weird vibes from Lovebird, especially this:

Idk what to think of your response yet. Not towny also wanting to have my townreads, but not scummy trying to doubt my townreads. Maybe you're scum and I scumread a buddy? Probably not

just feels off. A simple, "this is not scummy, but not necessarily basis for a townread, either" would have sufficed. Why insinuate I'm defending a buddy? Clearly, I just wanted to push you for reads that had no explanation/ didn't make sense.