Open 746: Bus Service [Game Over]

[mcqueen]

This is the question that pinged us.

If you’re town here, you should be asking why it is scummy, not why it is stupid.

however, I did re-read the interaction that spurred these (and previous similar) comments from Eliot, and I think Eliot is pushing something rather NAI. The way Lovebird asked it was fine.

[mcqueen]

Rb what do you think of this?

VOTE: Elliot

at first i preferred akarin, but after this page i also like this

VOTE: Elliot

no, this is better

VOTE: Lovebird

I doubt Lovebird and Eliot are bussing here, so if one flips scum, to me the other is cleared. And out of the two, this is where I feel most comfortable applying pressure/ voting for the moment.

I also don't understand why Eliot is aquiring a wagon while Lovebird has received minimum pressure.

[mcqueen]

And to clarify - I feel like Lovebird's decisions and reads so far have been with as little reasoning as possible. The vote on Eliot seemed to come out of left-field (at least FMPOV), and when asked she said, "I felt like it."

I'm gonna fencesit a little bit and say that I'm not putting full trust in Eliot here, but I feel like his actions have better purpose behind them, enough to sway my vote to Lovebird.

[Sashaddin]

Speaking of Akarin, I almost voted for him last night, because of 25 and 27. I finally didn't and it cost me a prod

Can you explain this better? I just don't understand if it's a joke, and if it's not... well then I don't get it at all.

When Lovebird says Eyes is Towny, Akarin jumps on the occasion to vote naked on him. That early in the game, it made me think of an early distancing move from her.

[Sashaddin]

I think Lovebird and Elliott are not of the same alignment. Just a feeling though, but as I see it's shared by a few.

[rb]

why are they not of the same alignment

[rb]

more to the point, which one are you scumreading, and why?

[rb]

And to clarify - I feel like Lovebird's decisions and reads so far have been with as little reasoning as possible. The vote on Eliot seemed to come out of left-field (at least FMPOV), and when asked she said, "I felt like it."

I'm gonna fencesit a little bit and say that I'm not putting full trust in Eliot here, but I feel like his actions have better purpose behind them, enough to sway my vote to Lovebird.

is purposefulness townie? why?

[rb]

lovebird is receiving minimum pressure because she's playing like town

[Sashaddin]

more to the point, which one are you scumreading, and why?

A bit more Elliot because of his defensiveness and OMGUSing towards being voted. Lovebird plays more smooth towny it seems. But it's the interaction between the two that makes me think like this. I don't seen one could be bussing the other, especially since the mafia thread is off during the day according to the rules. It would be quite something to coordinate.

[rb]

what if they're both town?

[Lovebird]

Why insinuate I'm defending a buddy? Clearly, I just wanted to push you for reads that had no explanation/ didn't make sense.

Huh? I said the exact opposite of that

Oh, I think it's scummy then. If you cared more about reasons why they're town rather than pushing for early townreads, it'd be towny.

[Lovebird]

And to clarify - I feel like Lovebird's decisions and reads so far have been with as little reasoning as possible. The vote on Eliot seemed to come out of left-field (at least FMPOV), and when asked she said, "I felt like it."

I'm gonna fencesit a little bit and say that I'm not putting full trust in Eliot here, but I feel like his actions have better purpose behind them, enough to sway my vote to Lovebird.

Ya, I did feel like it.

What's wrong with that?

[Lovebird]

Why not wait until we clarify to vote?

Why would I?

It's just one vote, idk why it bothers you so much.

A question you want clarified was more deserving of a vote than any of the other stuff you pointed out?

Also I don’t like how you tried to just undercut your own intellegence to downplay our argument

Deserving of a vote? Idk. I felt like you were a good vote though.

Doesn't have to be for stuff you've already said.

And, I'm not undercutting my own intelligence. Read what I said again

Just a change of pace to see someone say that.

Clarify the boldest?

Vote someone to see what happens. A lot happened, this time

[Sashaddin]

what if they're both town?

Then I'm wrong! This Day 1, no one flipped yet so the "knowledge" is limited to assumptions. I'd have a hard time translating my thought right now, it's late. I will wait for tomorrow.

[rb]

okay, but do you actually scumread either of them, or is it that you think they aren't the same alignment and are thereby compelled to try and scumread one?

the former i get, the latter seems...arbitrary and contrived, and possibly a little lazy/opportunistic

[rb]

Rb what do you think of this?

VOTE: Elliot

at first i preferred akarin, but after this page i also like this

VOTE: Elliot

no, this is better

VOTE: Lovebird

I doubt Lovebird and Eliot are bussing here, so if one flips scum, to me the other is cleared. And out of the two, this is where I feel most comfortable applying pressure/ voting for the moment.

I also don't understand why Eliot is aquiring a wagon while Lovebird has received minimum pressure.

yeah same as above, do you actually scumread lovebird?

shouldn't you be more concerned about actually voting someone you think will flip scum, rather than putting a false sense of important on lovebird/elliot interactions?

[FallenDown]

is flubber bad enough to do this as scum

You know my scum game

I'm sorry, but I do not understand what you mean.

[FallenDown]

I especially don't like the vote because I happen to be the only slot pressuring you right now. To us, that looks like an attempt to set up an argument that we would be omgus if we vote for you.

If Lovebird is evil, claiming to be omgus'd would be a bad defense and she will probably get suspected.

[FallenDown]

1. It assumes the person is town, which is concerning

Well, you can't go around assuming everyone is evil, can you? Only three people out of thirteen are evil. And plus, it is only an assumption which is more likely to be correct if he was town.

[rb]

fallendown more like fallentown

[Sashaddin]

okay, but do you actually scumread either of them, or is it that you think they aren't the same alignment and are thereby compelled to try and scumread one?

the former i get, the latter seems...arbitrary and contrived, and possibly a little lazy/opportunistic

I think Elliot leans scum but I won't say my observation because I want to figure out if what I am observing holds true until Day 2.
Unless you really want to hear it now.

VOTE: Elliott

[rb]

sure go ahead and say it

[TTTT]

did you just change your avatar while I was mid-read?
damn you.

[TTTT]

everyone on this page looks town
VOTE: Eyesw/oFace