Merchant's Daughter [Game Restart!]

[Krazy]

What account were you on for the first game? I'm assuming it's outed

[Krazy]

The closest one to suiciding on tilt was this guy
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I'm satisfied with this though.

why was that?

[Dunnstral]

What account were you on for the first game? I'm assuming it's outed

It's actually not linked in that post, I was on this account:

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=69378

[Alisae]

The closest one to suiciding on tilt was this guy
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I'm satisfied with this though.

why was that?

dw about it

[Clemency]

allo shouldn't be on anyone's town list
he's not making an effort to read anyone
he's just spamming the thread with "omg you're so useless omg omg" whenever anyone acts human

[Dunnstral]

allo shouldn't be on anyone's town list

he's not making an effort to read anyone

he's just spamming the thread with "omg you're so useless omg omg" whenever anyone acts human

And what are you doing?

[Clemency]

not making an effort to read anyone
i'm not being a dick about it though

[Celica]

I see a lot of posts and that urges me to stay up. However, I have work in the morning so I'll catch up later.

[Clemency]

also isn't 1179 exactly me giving my opinion about a certain person's alignment?

[Dunnstral]

also isn't 1179 exactly me giving my opinion about a certain person's alignment?

one opinion, wow, you have two total and one is on your dance partner and is arguably not an attempt to read them

It has nothing to do with 'being a dick about it' - are we talking scum/town here or are we pointing to the bullies?

[Dunnstral]

Actually that's you deflecting the main point there

You say allo shouldn't be on anyone's town list because he's not making an effort to read anyone
It's pointed out that you're doing the same thing
You switch gears and say you're 'not being a dick about it'

Is that last part related to the first 2 parts? Can you explain further?

[Clemency]

no, i'm fully aware that i'm garbage at town
just because i'm being a hypocrite doesnt mean i'm wrong

[Pink Ball]

Clem, bae, are the mean guys bullying you?

(Before Allousefulmancer comes here with his snarky posts, I haven't read the thread 'cause I had a long day. I'll catch up tomorrow)

[Clemency]

:c

[the worst]

Sorry my interest in mafia slipped hard the last ~24 hours and I'm out of focus in this game. Anyone feel like dragging me?

[PvtUrist]

Here's Yours Truly.

[PvtUrist]

Pink Ball!Clemency pair was formed (both roleplayed/yet to seriously weigh in)

Celica was accused of wolfing or something

Slaxx and Dunn are town

redacted

are scum

otherwise nothing too much out of the ordinary (for the players, that is)

[Nancy Drew 39]

Why wouldn’t I be “hung up” on that?

Because, as you just explained, it quite clearly can't be the final list. You're acting like I'm decreeing what the pairs will be. I was making an educated guess based on how easily sortable people are, personality, and burden of proficiency.

You also haven't really critiqued almost anything in the structure of the list. It seems like the town is more or less falling into the approximate tiers I suggested. You want to be in a top tier. Clemency seems fine taking a scummy pairing at the bottom. My guesses have been more or less accurate even if the exact pairings haven't matched up.

But you seem to want to scumread me for making an educated guess on how the game will play out, when that guess is more based on: who will be likely to even be in the final six? Because ultimately the game will be won or lost on those players, so starting a conversation on the players who will be both easily townread and reliable enough to execute a plan seems productive to me.

I actually kinda don't know what to do about the guys based on what I've seen so far

{-- Nancy Drew 39
-- Ankamius
-- Celica}

these are almost certainly the final three ladies
jibril will never post enough for a consensus read to form, Dunn has too much BoP, the worst is paired with firebringer and fire never makes final 3 here, and Clem probably isn't put in the final three for reliability reasons. Alisae is maybe the 4th final lady.

Guys are much bigger problem. McQueen hasn't shown up yet (Hi! btw), Slaxx is scumreading me (which given the usual value of his reads is a pretty big red flag for me), Pink Ball I need to think about now that he's with Clem, I still don't think Adelbert makes it into the final 3 for {reasons} although I think he's more likely final 4 pairings now, I obviously never make final three pairings, PvT kinda isn't here, and Rein literally isn't here. I might actually kinda have to flip and consider Allo in top 4.

1: mcqueen - Nancy Drew 39 -- this is obviously contingent on mcqueen ever showing up
2: Allomancer -- Ankamius -- flipping allo up here for now more due to issues with almost every other gentleman slot
3: Slaxx -- Celica -- Slaxx might just be wrong on me because I haven't started playing yet
4: Adelbert Steiner -- jibril -- this is probably fine for #4 honestly
5: Krazy -- Dunnstral -- match made in heaven
6: PvT -- Alisae -- seems fine
7:

Firebringer -- the worst

-- fine doing this early since there's no reason to push for Fire in final 4
8:

Party Boat -- Clemency

-- fine starting here although I kinda think Clem is more dragging PB around than the other way around, but it doesn't really matter which of the pair you think should go

predance -- Reinhardt

A) Not convinved these are the ideal pairings. B) Town almost lost last time with this strategy. C) Once again, you not being IC makes a HUGE difference because IC!RC might have been wrong but everyone obviously knew he was pure and therefore non-agenda driven.

Oh and you obviously mean Pink Ball not Party Boat.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Krazy I wouldn't mind pairing with you either

After all of that “foreplay” between you too, I would love to see this happen.

[Nancy Drew 39]

You know what’s Krazy? Krazy was the IC in my first game on site.

Saw a couple posts. People aren’t offering dances? Sucks, cause I wanna offer to Nancy but I can’t look scummy right?

Spoiler:

yes. i joined cause i wanted to play with you

D’awww.

Spoiler:

[Allomancer]

Really not liking any of Urist's posts so far. Jesus, I have more scumreads than I do townreads. Might be a problem. People, start being town!

[PvtUrist]

Well, I'm not exactly the most charismatic gent on the dancefloor.

If you're seeing something you don't like in my posts, feel free to talk about them.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Nancy, you can be the one that got away <3

Does anyone have issues with Slaxx/Dunn?

Spoiler:

[Allomancer]

You feel like you're trying to stall or something.

what do you wanna know?

I'm getting a weird impression that you're paying a lot closer attention than you're trying to let on, so I'm getting paranoid of you

Weren't you going to explain your Alisae read Pvt?

If you wish, then I shall.

Why not just explaining it here rather than "If you wish" bullshit?

Pink Ball!Clemency pair was formed (both roleplayed/yet to seriously weigh in)

Celica was accused of wolfing or something

Slaxx and Dunn are town

redacted

are scum

otherwise nothing too much out of the ordinary (for the players, that is)

Why redact the scum?

[Nancy Drew 39]

I'm of the Dunn school of thought that the guy trying to control the pairing list didn't like the idea of dunn and I pairing and pulled something out of his ass to try to suppress it.

How can you be sure it isn’t reverse psychology? Probably tinfoiling but I think it would be a mistake to rule that out.