In post 1253, Celica wrote: In post 1223, Ankamius wrote:Why is this necessarily scummy? It's early enough in the game where there isn't a whole lot more to go on and you even said yourself that the post he's referring to was bad, so what's the problem with this?
Because it’s a post that people should think more about then just looking at it. Adel seems like a mislynch waiting to happen to me and Slax is pushing it. The way he called out the posts in questions were also bad. So yes it is scummy the way he went at it. Instead of prodding adel more he just called the post scummy and moved on.
In post 1223, Ankamius wrote:This is essentially the same thing you did with your first point. Dunnstral calling people scummy for pushing lynchbait at page... 7 or 8 is bizarre and worth calling out, what's the problem with it necessarily? It would look a lot more scummy if the general tone of the posts were reversed, but I think most scumplayers would be more self-aware than to respond with reasonable followup questions and then immediately after make a post that could be interpreted as an attempt to discredit Dunn.
Just because you disagree with my way of thinking and the way Slaxx went at something doesn’t make the overall case bad. You didn’t really prove anything with this post. You just said you disagree and a ‘I think’ post that holds no merit because we don’t know if your ‘I think’ is true or not.
In post 1223, Ankamius wrote:This is him essentially saying that Dunnstral hasn't posted enough to warrant "Good analysis, seems towny." This I agree with, it's a pocket attempt at a glance and it makes sense that he'd specifically pick this fight because it's a townread on his scumread.
You don’t need a high post count for someone to have good analysis in a post or to even call someone towny. Someone can be towny in only 1 post some can not be towny in 100. Post count isn’t really a factor.
In post 1223, Ankamius wrote:That can just as easily be interpreted as "okay cool Allo might just have been hasty on Dunn, he's got his head in the game now"
No...no it can’t you’re just making an assumption. The fact is he was scumreading Allo and allo agrees with him on another scumread. He didn’t question that at all and to me that’s weird.
In post 1223, Ankamius wrote:It's more an expression than anything. Gutreads are notorious for being unexplainable, so what would he have called it out with or questioned about it?
Gut read or not the fact he didn’t question that more is strange in and of itself. He could’ve brought more attention to it by simply going. “My scumreads are starting to town read each other.” Or ask more questions about the read.
In post 1224, Ankamius wrote: In post 1214, Celica wrote: In post 1120, Ankamius wrote:that case strikes me more as scum trying to diminish the influence of a townslot than a bus
I have no reason to do this though when I could just nightkill Slaxx. He's the most townread gent minus Allo who I am actively trying to pair with. What would town me do in this spot? I asked for reasons why Slaxx was town and I wasn't seeing any so I posted my case. The way you and Ali are acting is like I said to stop trying to read Slaxx all together. I never did that at all.
If he's mostly on the right track, then it's entirely possible that he'd be able to convince enough of us to lynch your partners before your chance to kill him even comes up.
That wasn’t the orginal point you were making though. You were basically trying to say that I was trying to stop people from reading Slaxx. Also, the point of trying to stop his influence doesn’t make sense because he’s townreading me. Along with the fact that the whole influence point doesn’t make sense at all. It’s not like people are sheeping Slax in the first place or anything of the sort. So what influence am I stopping in the first place? Nothing at all.
Overall your statements here just feel...flat. Like you’re giving an excuse to say why my case is bad. I haven’t really seen anything good here that I can agree with. I don’t think you’re trying to understand my reasoning more so as just discredit me.
My entire point is that Slaxx's actions make sense from a town mindset and I'm not seeing enough to be able to see a scum mindset from Slaxx in the posts you quoted.
Why is Slaxx posting about Adel being scummy better than mine when I did the same thing? You also haven't explained why it's scummy instead of badtown, you essentially repeated that it's bad and that he's trying to push a mislynch... which I already explained why that by itself is insufficient.
You can't say that me disagreeing with your thinking doesn't make your case bad and then dismiss my counterpoint that it doesn't make much sense for scum to hastily make an addendum to a decent looking post with one that looks a lot more shaky. Either my interpretation is as valid as yours or your case is bad.
Would you agree or disagree with the statement that Dunnstral's first four posts were good analysis then? Literally all he had done at that point was lambast me for claiming my coin count and call the people voting Firebringer scummy for voting for lynchbait. That's hasty enough to raise eyebrows.
Yes I can, actually. You even showed the evidence via Allo being back into Slaxx's nullpile later on in the game. It's enough to be able to assume that Allo's stance on Krazy was enough to push him back out of the scumpile.
Okay, tell me why that necessarily means scum intent is more likely than town. If he was looking to secure future mislynches, he'd be just as willing to call more attention to it than as what you claim he would do as town.
No, I said you were trying to reduce his influence. That has more than do than people's reads on him, it has more to do with securing that small piece of doubt in everyone's minds that will make them less likely to follow him later.
