Merchant's Daughter [Game Restart!]

[Allomancer]

I see you as a very powerful town player. Ank I don't think is as powerful in her analysis as you.

But doesn’t she get 8 votes?

Not necessarily sure that that's a good thing, however. If she pairs with a null-read to avoid getting killed, we run the risk of the person she is paired with being scum.

[Alisae]

Honestly Celica, look back on it later. You’ll probably get a kick out of how that whole arguement is so futile and useless, but I’ll address this.

Well um, I understand why you were worried, but I don't think you should've claimed that so fast even if your intent was to claim sometime. I FOS this a bit mostly because being it can set Ankamius with her ideal partner as scum. Even if town wanted to claim the high coin count (and I can understand why.) Doing it this early just doesn't seem correct, along with the timing of the 2 posts. It's meh.

I kind of don’t see how this makes sense? I feel like Ankamius would probably land her ideal partner anyways, and there’s no way they were going to have an ideal partner in mind on page 1 unless its a scum v scum pairing.

It's more so I don't see why town Ank does it that early. It also made her more appealing as scum. Could she have a chance to get her partner as scum without claiming it? Of course, but saying you have the most coins helps.

eh, nah you need the flip the chessboard around when it comes to claims.
The question you shouldn’t be asking is why does town do it, but rather why does scum do it. Because if you can’t justify why scum would do it, its probably not alignment indicative at worst, but its probably town.
And plus, I don’t think any gentleman are going to pair up with Ank because they’re gold diggers.

[Nancy Drew 39]

So to clarify, during the first dance, does each lady's vote count as one, regardless of her coin value?

@FakeGod?

Coins=votes in the first dance I think? So Ank has 8 of them, right?

It clearly says gentleman votes = coins. It doesn't say anything regarded lady's votes, which is why I asked.

During First dance, Each GENTLEMEN's vote will count as equal to the number of gold coins his partner possesses

. During Second Dance, every player's vote will count as one.

Oh you’re right, it doesn’t affect the second dance at all.

[Alisae]

Not to mention, if need be Ank can just ask their scumbuddy to partner no problembo.

[FakeGod]

Ladies will have one vote each.

[Allomancer]

Yeah, I don't think claiming was a good idea, but I don't see how it helps scum. It's antitown but not scummy. IMO it only helps scum if town claims coins. So if Ank is scum, she didn't do anything productive, and if she is town, she hurt town, but she's not scum, just made a mistake.

[Pink Ball]

Yeh, if she was scum, she would more likely try to look as town as possible and partner up with her scumpartner.

[Alisae]

@Celica

- Look, I’ve been up all night reading a 120 chapter manga and kinda spent way too much time playing mafia then I thought I would. Just address a few things for me when you get a chance.
A. Look through Dunnstral’s ISO as promised.
B. Get back to me on Ank in general, both by re-reading the fight you had and/or continuing our conversation, whatever works for you.
C. Can you tell me if you think Slaxx is trying to figure out the motivations of other people?

I think thats all I need from you for now.

[Alisae]

And even if you still scumread literally any of your scumreads after this, yelling at them specificly isn’t going to get them lynched. You’re not going to get a wolf lynched by talking to a wolf. If you scumread someone, you should talk to other people to try to convince them, because its more likely that you will get followers that way over posting a case and expecting people to just read it.

But if I’m correct in knowing who you are, you’ll probably not take this too seriously coming from me?
And even then, I’m pretty sure anyone could apply the things I said in this post and they would see that they’re suddenly becoming more charismatic.

But yeah I’m off to bed, cya in about 6 hours probably less

[Pink Ball]

You’re not going to get a wolf lynched by talking to a wolf.

Preachhhhhhhhh

[Allomancer]

gn alisae

[Nancy Drew 39]

Yeh, if she was scum, she would more likely try to look as town as possible and partner up with her scumpartner.

Has that ever happened though, even once?

[Firebringer]

This game is getting boring. Lets talk about yugioh.

[Clemency]

i draw pot of greed



allowing me to draw two additional coins

[Nancy Drew 39]

[Ankamius]

Yeah, I don't think claiming was a good idea, but I don't see how it helps scum. It's antitown but not scummy. IMO it only helps scum if town claims coins. So if Ank is scum, she didn't do anything productive, and if she is town, she hurt town, but she's not scum, just made a mistake.

Actually I had a much different idea in mind when I claimed that nobody had picked up on I think

And no, at this point having my coin amount be known is protown because if we are going to go with this town+null idea, we need to know who is getting the instalynch powers and whether they are a town or a null

[mcqueen]

can someone tell me if there is a deadline for the pre-dance

[Slaxx]

Like six days from now McQ

[mcqueen]

cool. i know i said i'd read, but chances i do are realistically slim. however, i'm town and i'm not sure how to make that clear while not being able to keep up.

[Slaxx]

It’s fine, like a third of the playerlist has you as someone to keep around because you’re easy to read so you might get lucky.

Really if you can’t keep up I’d recommend replacing but with 50 pages already idk how I feel about that. The pace will slow down eventually I’d think:

[mcqueen]

i mean i do have time this weekend, so maybe i'll skim. i'd rather not replace out, though. this will help, even if it paints me as scummy for asking;

what is the current gamestate? i know we are figuring out who to pair with as a strategic measure. upon joining, i wasn't sure if i wanted to pull a Firebringer and request a dance right away, or follow suit with everyone else. i know who i want to pair with already and i've made that clear. so, to me, while i'm selfish and anti-town, i'm eager to request a dance now, and hope Nancy accepts.

who is generally being scumread, and the same with townreads? who is controversial?

[Ankamius]

If I'm that much of a threat, the only way to save me from getting NKed is to pair me with scum, who would instalynch someone into intermission anyways

Just going to reiterate that I'm the 8 coin lady and matching me up with someone who can reasonably be scum is very risky

You have 8 votes and depending on whom you pair up with, will either be seen as a huge assest or threat to scum. You obviously don’t want to pair up with a scumread for obvious reasons but you’re 100% putting a target on your back, if you pair with a likely obvtown gent, so I think for those reasons Allo and Slaxx probably wouldn’t be the best choices for you. So, if you pair up with a nullread, you will probably be safe(r) in either case. Right?

And you obviously should take all the time you need to figure that out. We ALL should ideally. I just think the original plan of pairing obvtowns with null reads, contributes to you being the biggest target, so I think it’s in town’s best interest - as I’ve said - to take the heat off of you, as much as possible.

I'm going to keep saying, it's too early to determine my worth to the game since I need flips to refine my reads

Most of my game directly before my hiatus were weak and there's no guarantee I'll be back to form just because I'm coming back from one like last time

Just play the game by ear and we will see what happens, I had a huge ego problem in Irchers game last year and I don't want a repeat of that

[mcqueen]

i mean i do have time this weekend, so maybe i'll skim. i'd rather not replace out, though. this will help, even if it paints me as scummy for asking;

what is the current gamestate? i know we are figuring out who to pair with as a strategic measure. upon joining, i wasn't sure if i wanted to pull a Firebringer and request a dance right away, or follow suit with everyone else. i know who i want to pair with already and i've made that clear. so, to me, while i'm

being

selfish and anti-town, i'm eager to request a dance now, and hope Nancy accepts.

who is generally being scumread, and the same with townreads? who is controversial?

added an important word before someone claims scumslip.

[Ankamius]

Read the last few pages and start from there mcqueen

[mcqueen]

ok