Merchant's Daughter [Endgame]

[Nancy Drew 39]

2 timing me, already? Whaddaya take me for? Harumph

Okay, this looks bad but I swear I have no interest in Pink Ball! Unless Pink Ball is going to be the stereotypical "ugly" lady until taking the glasses off. If that's the case, then get your coat, you're getting the bus!

Lolwut?

And don’t you dare diss my wingwoman, you cad!

<3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 thanks boo, I can't believe this guy called me ugly in front of everyone

That guy is no gentleman! My momma warned me about his kind.

[Krazy]

First dance will end if there are 12 players or fewer left alive or deadline is reached.

So I'm just rereading the ruleset

uh, do we just do nothing first dance?

Sorry I was about to vomit out some setup stuff that hinged around how much I hate the coins and then I realized simply not lynching anyone was an option.

Or alternatively,

@FakeGod, is No Lynch an option for first dance?

[Vedith]

I need someone loyal, who I can trust and it’s not looking like that’s you bud.

Well I tried!
Can I suggest Dannflor? He really does look good in a suit!

NEXT!

[Taly]

where my man at

Should I send an offer?

depends

do you think i am town?

[FakeGod]

Or alternatively,

@FakeGod, is No Lynch an option for first dance?

Yes.

[Krazy]

Okay that's interesting to think of.

[Vedith]

depends

do you think i am town?

Yes! No one as wonderful as you would ever be scum!
I think we would make a great pair, what's your choice of dance?

[Nancy Drew 39]

Good morning everyone

Spoiler:

You can do this Krazy... you can do this...

Good morning everyone

Spoiler:

You can do this Krazy... you can do this...

Are you encouraging yourself to talk with us the ladies? Awww you're so sweet

Spoiler:

[Taly]

First dance will end if there are 12 players or fewer left alive or deadline is reached.

So I'm just rereading the ruleset

uh, do we just do nothing first dance?

Sorry I was about to vomit out some setup stuff that hinged around how much I hate the coins and then I realized simply not lynching anyone was an option.

Or alternatively,

@FakeGod, is No Lynch an option for first dance?

To my understanding:

We

Pre-Dance

until one of two scenarios:

1)

We end deadline.

2)

Everyone has a pair; much to one person's expense based on numbers.

Then we go to

First Dance

, and then it's like Hunger Games Lovers-Version until we're at 12 people, and it's a nightless so we don't transition until multiple pairs are gone.

[Dannflor]

I need someone loyal, who I can trust and it’s not looking like that’s you bud.

Well I tried!
Can I suggest Dannflor? He really does look good in a suit!

NEXT!

Don’t suggest me! How else am I supposed to keep up my emo loner mystique?

[Dannflor]

To add to what Taly said, pairs should probably be decided near end of the pre-dance so we have the most info when making them. ...or we just pick a date we think is cute.

[Nancy Drew 39]

First dance will end if there are 12 players or fewer left alive or deadline is reached.

So I'm just rereading the ruleset

uh, do we just do nothing first dance?

Sorry I was about to vomit out some setup stuff that hinged around how much I hate the coins and then I realized simply not lynching anyone was an option.

Or alternatively,

@FakeGod, is No Lynch an option for first dance?

This is the

pre-dance

. There’s no lynching until the first dance. My, I have so much to teach you. <3

[Krazy]

So basically there are two ways to play this setup.

I think *both are viable*... and we maybe should think about it a little bit

Strategy 1: We commit to a tentative grouping of 6 locktown players to endgame

Problem with Strategy 1: Scum will, on average, I believe have 6-7 coins toward the end of dance one. But they can have more.

So the really annoying scenario that might have made me really angry in the past is {what if this game gets really stupid}

The game gets really stupid if we spend all of pre-dance hammering down our top 6 townreads, and then it's clear what the lynch order is

So we have at the end of dance 1 7 pairs:
Town pair 1
Town pair 2
Town pair 3
{knows they will get lynched pair A}
{knows they will get lynched pair B}
{knows they will get lynched pair C}
{knows they will get lynched pair D}

Which means that *if* (and again, this is actually a statistically uncommon scenario) there are two scum men in "ABCD" and their combined coin count is over 8 (which is barely a statistical blip -- if there are two scum men it is not at all unlikely their combined count is over 8) which would mean if they wanted to they could actually lynch Town Pair 1, kill Town pair 2 at night, and then throw the IC on one of the two scum men that scumclaimed, thus rendering the IC useless and creating massive wifom about the remaining pairings. That might even be game winning at that point if no scum had been lynched at that point.

I am NOT saying this is a likely scenario. But I did, at some point in the past, start getting *very focused* on this particular scenario and I think we might want to think very briefly about how we want to actually play out this game

[Nancy Drew 39]

I need someone loyal, who I can trust and it’s not looking like that’s you bud.

Well I tried!
Can I suggest Dannflor? He really does look good in a suit!

NEXT!

Keep up the charm and you’ll have all of the ladies beating down your door.

[Krazy]

Basically what this comes down to is:
A) I don't actually think we should attempt to solve the game at all in Pre-dance
B) In Dance 1, we should just immediately no lynch

Instead, I think in pre-dance, we should all just pair with people we would like to solve the game with in dance 2. We should not necessarily pair with people we are locktown on, but rather on people we would enjoy sorting in a PT and enjoy solving with if we are still alive in dance 2

[Nancy Drew 39]

depends

do you think i am town?

Yes! No one as wonderful as you would ever be scum!
I think we would make a great pair, what's your choice of dance?

*pocketing attempt noted*

[Krazy]

So basically I think we just go into this thinking go into Dance 2 with 14 players, an IC, and treat it like a mountainous from there

[Nancy Drew 39]

First dance will end if there are 12 players or fewer left alive or deadline is reached.

So I'm just rereading the ruleset

uh, do we just do nothing first dance?

Sorry I was about to vomit out some setup stuff that hinged around how much I hate the coins and then I realized simply not lynching anyone was an option.

Or alternatively,

@FakeGod, is No Lynch an option for first dance?

To my understanding:

We

Pre-Dance

until one of two scenarios:

1)

We end deadline.

2)

Everyone has a pair; much to one person's expense based on numbers.

Then we go to

First Dance

, and then it's like Hunger Games Lovers-Version until we're at 12 people, and it's a nightless so we don't transition until multiple pairs are gone.

Not everyone, one gent leaves unpaired.

[Vedith]

*pocketing attempt noted*

You're acting like 'that' crazy ex now...

[Krazy]

Instead, I think in pre-dance, we should all just pair with people we would like to solve the game with in dance 2. We should not necessarily pair with people we are locktown on, but rather on people we would enjoy sorting in a PT and enjoy solving with if we are still alive in dance 2

If anyone strongly disagrees with this I'd like to hear it because otherwise I would like to offer a dance (rl) today

[Dannflor]

I mean ladies know how many coins they have yea? Can we just pair town read gents with high coin ladies, or am I missing something?

[Taly]

depends

do you think i am town?

Yes! No one as wonderful as you would ever be scum!
I think we would make a great pair, what's your choice of dance?

you seem confident in this read within the first 3 pages of the game

but im exclusively TxT

im not too sure about you being town, so i cannot give an answer yet

Not everyone, one gent leaves unpaired.

hence the

"much to one's expense"

part

[Nancy Drew 39]

To add to what Taly said, pairs should probably be decided near end of the pre-dance so we have the most info when making them. ...or we just pick a date we think is cute.

Yes, Vedith seems too eager and isn’t trying to sort the ladies.

[Vedith]

Instead, I think in pre-dance, we should all just pair with people we would like to solve the game with in dance 2. We should not necessarily pair with people we are locktown on, but rather on people we would enjoy sorting in a PT and enjoy solving with if we are still alive in dance 2

In all seriousness, keeping in mind,

if

I make it to the dance. I'm not sharing a PT with a non poster!

[Vedith]

Yes, Vedith seems too eager and isn’t trying to sort the ladies.

My main concern is making it to the dance.