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Post Post #375 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:46 am

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In post 348, Firebringer wrote:
In post 347, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 332, Firebringer wrote:I am in the 90% certainty on Nancy and Allo being scum here. Someone try to change my mind!
I’m not sure about Allo but but your reads are probably wrong like they were last game, when you scumread duck who seemed really townie to me, remember that?
guess what, you can't bring up last round since its not a completed and fakegod told us not to talk about it.
He never said that. You read tw wrong and you’re doing the same thing to me in this game.
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Post Post #376 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:46 am

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In post 373, Firebringer wrote:
In post 371, Alisae wrote:
In post 369, Firebringer wrote:
In post 364, Alisae wrote:/me yawns
this is boring right now
ur boring granddaughter
dude its literally just the same people posting like the game atm feels extremely uneventful tho idunno what I'm really expecting but right now I'm just bored with it
dude lets go play yugioh
that sounds way better then this
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Post Post #377 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:47 am

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In post 345, Taly wrote:point to me whats empty
Sure

Spoiler:
In post 76, Taly wrote:
In post 69, Krazy wrote:
In post 64, Krazy wrote:Instead, I think in pre-dance, we should all just pair with people we would like to solve the game with in dance 2. We should not necessarily pair with people we are locktown on, but rather on people we would enjoy sorting in a PT and enjoy solving with if we are still alive in dance 2
If anyone strongly disagrees with this I'd like to hear it because otherwise I would like to offer a dance (rl) today
In post 70, Dannflor wrote:I mean ladies know how many coins they have yea? Can we just pair town read gents with high coin ladies, or am I missing something?
I like both ideas....
Krazy's
method promotes transparency, and
Dannflor's
idea gives less power to Scum+Wealthy Ladies or Gents+Wealthy Scum

But I'd rather not make quick decisions on who I'm dancing with, and I think seeing everyone in the thread first is the most pragmatic and observant method of making a decision.
Here you just kinda restate both of our ideas without adding anything.
In post 121, Taly wrote:oh, overlooked that mod answer

mmm....

Krazy's
strategy sounds good in theory

>
High coin ladies claim to AVOID any scum-gents lying and vote/hammering in First Dance anyway.

>
Getting rid of the "coin mechanic" by going directly to Second Dance without lynch
helps town in multiple ways
:
- Numerically, more town are likely to stay alive
-
Second Dance BEGINS with an IC being made
- to my understanding - so that actually serves to validate people's reads to an extent from Pre-Dance.

>
Getting rid of the "coin mechanic" by going directly to Second Dance without lynch
hurts scum in multiple ways
:
- Scum can't use ANY knowledge of their coins/partner's coins to position a mislynch on someone
- Restricts their options for potential NK, especially if mutually thought townpairs are created

i think a group consenus should be made for pairs, but i dont think forcing someone to pair with another person they scumread is wise

i like this idea a lot, but we need a consenus on everyone committing to this plan or we can't do it

and ANYONE who disagrees with this strategy, should elaborate on their thoughts of it.
Here you're restating things again, this is like the definition of dancing around the setup spec.
In post 131, Taly wrote:
Dannflor wrote:I'm pretty sure there can be more than one lynch per day
yeah, cant there be more than one lynch in First Dance?

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anyway

im going to do math homework and pray to god i make at least a B on my Chem Level 2 test tomorrow...

ill be on later tonight, probably
Posts like this, just echoing questions.
In post 292, Taly wrote:im feeling better about
vedith
at the moemnt

ank
, can you outline your thoughts specifically on
krazy's
plan being an idea that comes from scum?

allo
is my only scumread at the moment, im looking at
nancy
and
dann
for sorting

+1 to
fire/ali/ank
but still thinking here
Here your Vedith town and Allo scum reads come after a couple other state these same reads. It's just sheeping without adding any reasoning, and then you say you're still sorting other people. So nothing really happens in this post.
In post 314, Taly wrote: Because
Allo's
been both flippant and non-concrete in his posts so far.

The unexplained vote tier; with
FakeGod
as a read and
Dann
without really engaging with him at all

The non-committal
Vedith
is scummy thought that was practically a sheeped read since Page 1

I don't get his plan about
"lynching some and then seeing what happens"
for First Dance WITH Lady's claiming coin value... that just sounds like telling scum how to position themselves in the game

ISOing him, it doesn't read as town.

What are your thoughts on
Vedith
and anyone stating that he isn't scum?
I do like this post, however, as it adds reasoning. My only qualm is that it comes after other people basically already stated the same thing.
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Post Post #378 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:47 am

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In post 358, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:I already answered that.
Uh, where?
In post 352, Pink Ball wrote:If you feel like Nancy is being oblivious and she's posting 95% about reads, it's town Nancy. If she's fluffing more than usual, it's scum Nancy
But I feel like this is closer to fluffing, the oblivious part has me paranoid though
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Post Post #379 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:47 am

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In post 375, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 348, Firebringer wrote:
In post 347, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 332, Firebringer wrote:I am in the 90% certainty on Nancy and Allo being scum here. Someone try to change my mind!
I’m not sure about Allo but but your reads are probably wrong like they were last game, when you scumread duck who seemed really townie to me, remember that?
guess what, you can't bring up last round since its not a completed and fakegod told us not to talk about it.
He never said that. You read tw wrong and you’re doing the same thing to me in this game.
I am sorry do you have the worsts flip from last game? No? Don't? Ohh I guess than you need to shut the hell up then.
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his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
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His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #380 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:47 am

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actually now that ya mention it, this playmat did come in that I really like and am excited to use
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Post Post #381 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:48 am

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In post 350, Alisae wrote:
In post 132, Alisae wrote:
@Fakegod probably a dumb question but can we talk about the first run of this game?
In post 134, FakeGod wrote:
In post 132, Alisae wrote:
@Fakegod probably a dumb question but can we talk about the first run of this game?
Sure.
Exactly, Fire isn’t reading the damn game.
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Post Post #382 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:48 am

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OK... I'm mentally waking up a little bit.

Does anyone have questions for me? That helps

Ank
, was there any benefit that you saw in claiming coin value in your previous game of this?
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Post Post #383 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:48 am

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In post 381, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 350, Alisae wrote:
In post 132, Alisae wrote:
@Fakegod probably a dumb question but can we talk about the first run of this game?
In post 134, FakeGod wrote:
In post 132, Alisae wrote:
@Fakegod probably a dumb question but can we talk about the first run of this game?
Sure.
Exactly, Fire isn’t reading the damn game.
I have airpods in I can't hear you atm sry
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Post Post #384 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:49 am

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wow Nancy actually got me triggered with that loaded statement about my the worst read.
I need something to calm me down.

someone tell me a funny joke
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Post Post #385 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:49 am

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In post 353, Ankamius wrote:Nancy, I've seen enough to pretty confidently solidify you as a strong scum read. I wasn't actually asking what you saw me ask.
Tell me what. You actually gave reasons in Heroes.
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Post Post #386 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:50 am

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In post 371, Alisae wrote:dude its literally just the same people posting like the game atm feels extremely uneventful tho idunno what I'm really expecting but right now I'm just bored with it
lowkey town pings me

uneventful is good for scum
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Post Post #387 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:50 am

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In post 314, Taly wrote:
Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 292, Taly wrote:im feeling better about
vedith
at the moemnt

ank
, can you outline your thoughts specifically on
krazy's
plan being an idea that comes from scum?

allo
is my only scumread at the moment, im looking at
nancy
and
dann
for sorting

+1 to
fire/ali/ank
but still thinking here
Because he didn’t state a reason for his Vedith scumread?
Because
Allo's
been both flippant and non-concrete in his posts so far.

The unexplained vote tier; with
FakeGod
as a read and
Dann
without really engaging with him at all

The non-committal
Vedith
is scummy thought that was practically a sheeped read since Page 1

I don't get his plan about
"lynching some and then seeing what happens"
for First Dance WITH Lady's claiming coin value... that just sounds like telling scum how to position themselves in the game

ISOing him, it doesn't read as town.

What are your thoughts on
Vedith
and anyone stating that he isn't scum?
Jokes about scumreading the mod are pretty common. I don't see how you think that's a scum move.
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Post Post #388 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:50 am

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In post 384, Firebringer wrote:I need something to calm me down.
want me to teach ya modern yugioh?
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Post Post #389 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:51 am

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In post 314, Taly wrote:
Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 292, Taly wrote:im feeling better about
vedith
at the moemnt

ank
, can you outline your thoughts specifically on
krazy's
plan being an idea that comes from scum?

allo
is my only scumread at the moment, im looking at
nancy
and
dann
for sorting

+1 to
fire/ali/ank
but still thinking here
Because he didn’t state a reason for his Vedith scumread?
Because
Allo's
been both flippant and non-concrete in his posts so far.

The unexplained vote tier; with
FakeGod
as a read and
Dann
without really engaging with him at all

The non-committal
Vedith
is scummy thought that was practically a sheeped read since Page 1

I don't get his plan about
"lynching some and then seeing what happens"
for First Dance WITH Lady's claiming coin value... that just sounds like telling scum how to position themselves in the game

ISOing him, it doesn't read as town.

What are your thoughts on
Vedith
and anyone stating that he isn't scum?
Jokes about scumreading the mod are pretty common. I don't see how you think that's a scum move.
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Post Post #390 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:51 am

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Two fish are in a tank

one says to the other: "Do you know how to drive this thing?"

the other says: "YOU CAN TALK?!"
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Post Post #391 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:51 am

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In post 355, Firebringer wrote:
In post 346, Pink Ball wrote:That's exactly what makes Nancy town, doggo.
No, Nancy town misses context when she doesn't read everything up until the point she asks a question. She will be reading posts and asks questions that are later answered, but she doesn't ask ridiculous questions as though she is just fake thinking through reads. she is doing that here.

her questions when she is town are actually have a thought process going on with them and she is trying to understand stuff, she misses things but not in this way and she has a thought process you can actually see when you read her posts.

THERE IS NONE OF THAT HERE!
Wrong. :roll:
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Post Post #392 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:51 am

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In post 388, Alisae wrote:
In post 384, Firebringer wrote:I need something to calm me down.
want me to teach ya modern yugioh?
is that with the pendulm summons and stuff. I am too old to learn new yugioh.
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Post Post #393 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:51 am

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In post 387, Allomancer wrote:Jokes about scumreading the mod are pretty common. I don't see how you think that's a scum move.
:up:
I claim scum \o/
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Post Post #394 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:51 am

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In post 382, Taly wrote:Ank, was there any benefit that you saw in claiming coin value in your previous game of this?
Is there benefit in not claiming coin value?
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Post Post #395 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:52 am

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In post 368, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 344, Dannflor wrote:
In post 342, Firebringer wrote:
In post 338, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 327, Vedith wrote:
In post 326, Firebringer wrote:I am being townread too easily here and its making me uncomfortable.
Probably means your scum. That's upsetting. :(
Why would that make him scum?
Another good post for why Nancy is scum.
Missing the obvious context that Vedith is screwing around.
Yea, there are a lot of these kinds of posts in Nancy's ISO. Too eager to question and look town without really thinking through it or purposefully propelling things forward.
I’m “eager to look town”? What are you smoking dude?

Wrt the latter, tell me once again how this is different from every other game I’ve ever played.
FTR, this is exactly how I caught scumNancy in heroes wanted:

Town Nancy: "Why are you reading me wrong?"

Scum Nancy: "Why are you scumreading me?"

Nancy as town doesn't care as much for the read itself as much as what the read means. Nancy as scum is the opposite.
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Post Post #396 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:52 am

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In post 393, Vedith wrote:
In post 387, Allomancer wrote:Jokes about scumreading the mod are pretty common. I don't see how you think that's a scum move.
:up:
its a scum move when done by allo
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Post Post #397 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:52 am

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In post 324, Firebringer wrote:
In post 314, Taly wrote:The unexplained vote tier; with FakeGod as a read and Dann without really engaging with him at all
ohh I forgot this too.

allo I don't think would put fake god in a readset as town. That is like bizzaro world here if he is town and is doing that.
ok
1) it was a joke
2) it was also purposeful. I had no strong scumreads. If I had stuck with 4 rows it would've looked like Dann was strong scum and Krazy was null-scum. That wasn't the case, so I added a bottom row to show that i had not strong scumreads. Then I put fakegod in it for a joke
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Post Post #398 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:53 am

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In post 387, Allomancer wrote:Jokes about scumreading the mod are pretty common. I don't see how you think that's a scum move.
Is this the only point I make about you that is worth commenting on?

How about you explain your
Dann/Vedith
read.
Dannflor wrote:
In post 382, Taly wrote:Ank, was there any benefit that you saw in claiming coin value in your previous game of this?
Is there benefit in not claiming coin value?
I'm worried that scum would want to pocket or buddy high-value lady's.
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Post Post #399 (ISO) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:53 am

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In post 356, Ankamius wrote:
In post 354, Pink Ball wrote:Oh, and if she's talking more about meta than anything else, it's even more town Nancy
No.

Trust me, she's thinking from a scum mindset.
No, we’re not fucking trusting you on jack. You keep calling me scum here, without giving me even a single goddamned reason. That is not acceptable.
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