Merchant's Daughter [Endgame]

[Nancy Drew 39]

Preface: I don't have any super strong scum reads right now. What I have is the beginning of a poe built around a wealth of townreads. I don't particularly want to expand on my townreads right now, since I think indicating how "locktown" or "leantown" people are in my hierarchy is potentially more beneficial for scum than town. This is just where I am right now.

People I would like to see alive in second dance: PvtUrist, RadiantCowbells, Dannflor, Ankamius, Nancy Drew 39, Gamma Emerald, Taly

Vedith -- Firebringer is a special case -- I don't strongly townlean Vedith, and am mildly annoyed at him for how he has acted since the coins thing was revealed. Firebringer I would have otherwise liked to see in second dance but I'm pretty indifferent to Firebringer doing his usual shtick of leaving the dance rn -- if she wants to, fine, if not, we can deal with it in dance 2.

That leaves me with a 4:3 for remaining reads, of which, thru the power of maths, 4 must be town, and 3 will be scum (if Vedith is town, which I'm still thinking about). Don't think I've had a full solve d1 recently, but what ya gonna do. I wanted to narrow this down to 3:2 since that is more informative for how I would like things to go in Dance 1 but frankly some of my edge reads just aren't there yet

Allomancer -- Highest of my low gents. I think Allo has been playing pretty pro-town in terms of his mech thoughts and I feel like I've usually understood where he was coming from with his reads. The scumreads I believe are primarilly tonal I believe, which suggests to me that I need to at some point sit down and meta him, because I take tonal scumreads seriously
Moment -- there is literally nothing to work with here. Given my wealth of townreads this means he is low on my list rn
DoubtingThomas -- mostly I disliked some of DoubtingThomas's reactions to Dr Worm's posts, but overall I'd say this is more null-defaultscumlean than a scumread
Dr Worm -- this is probably the slot that bothers me the most right now. I think he's funny, I think he's having fun, I'm not nearly as annoyed by him as other people are. But I think he flat lied about not being a stealth alt; based on his lexicon, thought processes, way of presenting arguments, and mechanical familiarity, this is someone who has played forum/chat mafia before and I think he deliberately downplayed his experience at the start of the game. That does not *make him lockscum*. But I would have very much preferred if he just said "I'm a stealth alt, don't mainhunt me plz guys" -- he's denied this multiple times. Maybe it's true. But there are several phrases that are specific to *this site* that he has been using so either he is a really fast learner or he has been lying about his self-meta.

Pink Ball -- I actually really liked 323 and I very nearly have thrown this into my "would like to see alive in dance 2" and just decided that there's probably 2 scum gents, 1 scum lady, but I feel like I'm just not familiar enough with the player yet to feel totally comfortable doing that. Easily the most likely town out of my bottom 7 unpaired right now though.
Alisae -- I feel like I just haven't gotten a full whiff of town Alisae yet this game but this isn't really a scumread, just haven't seen the town yet
TheBrie -- I feel like in each of her long posts there's one line I kinda dislike, so in terms of like/dislike ratio this is one of the lower players, but again I wouldn't say this is a strong scumread

I like many of these reads but why Urist? What has he done that screams town to you?

[Krazy]

I'm also going to avoid pairing if Vedith thinks its a good idea for him to vote at all in the second lynch of dance 1.

Lets face it, If I'm not lynching/walking out Fire, then I'm most likely lynching you by this point.

this is the reason I am annoyed at you right now, although reading it again I guess there is a chance you were not actually implying you'd use the coin votes in dance 1 to lynch Ank which is how I took it at the time

[RadiantCowbells]

Any reads that I haven't already shared I have no intentions of sharing until I can sit at the game for a couple of hours and hammer things out. That'll be before sunday

Ok

Why did you respond the way you did to my statement about dancing with Krazy

Because I found both you and him some variant of off-putting and you singling him out as what I assumed was your top townread didn't mesh with the gamestate imo

[Allomancer]

dr worm is def scum here

I like this post but I'd like you to expand on your reasoning

As for my read on worm: the weird posting style is antitown but not scum. However, we have repeatedly told him this and he refuses to change it, just stating "I'm trying to get better" without changing anything. It's gotten to the point where it feels contrived rather than stylistic. What does town have to gain from that? Okay, maybe I'm wrong, maybe he is just a troll, but then he just deserves to be taught the lesson that actions have consequences, and a lynch is the best way to do that.

[Krazy]

I like many of these reads but why Urist? What has he done that screams town to you?

I'd prefer to not go into too much detail on my top gents if I can, but long story short is that this is a BoP read and so far he has passed the test.

[Nancy Drew 39]

When are you available

Are you issuing me an official invitation?

@Pink Ball, what do you think? Should we make a beeline for the ladies room or do you think RC is the right guy for me?

[Krazy]

Thanks, sorry if I'm asking redundant questions, I would try to do a full catchup but this thread literally seems to grow faster than I can read it sometimes and it's easy to lose track of things that were answered on the next page 0.o

[Ankamius]

Any reads that I haven't already shared I have no intentions of sharing until I can sit at the game for a couple of hours and hammer things out. That'll be before sunday

Ok

Why did you respond the way you did to my statement about dancing with Krazy

Because I found both you and him some variant of off-putting and you singling him out as what I assumed was your top townread didn't mesh with the gamestate imo

Nope

He's my only real scumread atm

[Allomancer]

I'd prefer to not go into too much detail on my top gents if I can

well why not?

[RadiantCowbells]

When are you available

Are you issuing me an official invitation?

@Pink Ball, what do you think? Should we make a beeline for the ladies room or do you think RC is the right guy for me?

No I didn't ask you to dance I asked you on a date

[Vedith]

this is the reason I am annoyed at you right now, although reading it again I guess there is a chance you were not actually implying you'd use the coin votes in dance 1 to lynch Ank which is how I took it at the time

Anything about coins like me saying one on each lady isn't serious.
I have no idea how many coins I have and I'm not confident enough to just lynch someone early.
I don't agree with the no lynch though I can say that much

[Nancy Drew 39]

When are you available

Are you issuing me an official invitation?

@Pink Ball, what do you think? Should we make a beeline for the ladies room or do you think RC is the right guy for me?

No I didn't ask you to dance I asked you on a date

Okay, I’m not following. Isn’t a dance, a date?

Isn’t that how we first interact?

But sure. What do you want to do?

[Krazy]

drworm is a copy of Kain Tepes I can't believe no one remembers tepes this is like exactly the same trolling. Just ignore every post he makes.

Do you think it is possibly the exact same player?

[RadiantCowbells]

When are you available

Are you issuing me an official invitation?

@Pink Ball, what do you think? Should we make a beeline for the ladies room or do you think RC is the right guy for me?

No I didn't ask you to dance I asked you on a date

Okay, I’m not following. Isn’t a dance, a date?

Isn’t that how we first interact?

But sure. What do you want to do?

Any movies you want to see?

[Krazy]

KRAZY ALLOWMANSTER and FREEBRANGER are TOWN-TOWN IN MY MIND AND HEART

Explain this, and find better material than

Nancy

SORY I missed this but JUST SAW IT mentioned in your LAST POST

KRAZY - much EFFORT to SETUP spec to the POINT it LOOKS FAKE and SCUM is scared to appear LIKE THIS
ALLOMASTER - SINCERE and reading EVRYTHING w/o picking at DUMB SUPERFICIAL STUFF
FURBRANGER - taking STANCES and making himself a TARGET for NO PERCEIVABLE SCUM BENEFIT

I wanna say these are reads people don't make unless they have played on this site or MU for at least 3 months, I don't even think homesites generate this kind of read-logic

the thing is that's really pissing me off is that I'm not even really disagreeing with the reads, it's just that I feel like he's been manipulative in how he presents himself

[Firebringer]

drworm is a copy of Kain Tepes I can't believe no one remembers tepes this is like exactly the same trolling. Just ignore every post he makes.

Do you think it is possibly the exact same player?

No but i think they are copying them knowingly.

[Nancy Drew 39]

When are you available

Are you issuing me an official invitation?

@Pink Ball, what do you think? Should we make a beeline for the ladies room or do you think RC is the right guy for me?

No I didn't ask you to dance I asked you on a date

Okay, I’m not following. Isn’t a dance, a date?

Isn’t that how we first interact?

But sure. What do you want to do?

Any movies you want to see?

I don’t know what’s playing. I like Indie films and sci-fi. Mysteries are also good. Certain comedies like Monty Python.

[RadiantCowbells]

When are you available

Are you issuing me an official invitation?

@Pink Ball, what do you think? Should we make a beeline for the ladies room or do you think RC is the right guy for me?

No I didn't ask you to dance I asked you on a date

Okay, I’m not following. Isn’t a dance, a date?

Isn’t that how we first interact?

But sure. What do you want to do?

Any movies you want to see?

I don’t know what’s playing. I like Indie films and sci-fi. Mysteries are also good. Certain comedies like Monty Python.

Ooh have you seen Airplane! yet?

[Taly]

[RadiantCowbells]

I retract my offer I don't want taly to feel jealous

[Krazy]

but I think my most optimal choice is Krazy, and... I'm literally about to accept it, but I'm gun-shy.

I think it was pretty reasonable to ask for a reads list first. I probably should have done one before asking, but I wanted to process a few more posts from the fringes of the list first.

[Nancy Drew 39]

When are you available

Are you issuing me an official invitation?

@Pink Ball, what do you think? Should we make a beeline for the ladies room or do you think RC is the right guy for me?

No I didn't ask you to dance I asked you on a date

Okay, I’m not following. Isn’t a dance, a date?

Isn’t that how we first interact?

But sure. What do you want to do?

Any movies you want to see?

I don’t know what’s playing. I like Indie films and sci-fi. Mysteries are also good. Certain comedies like Monty Python.

Ooh have you seen Airplane! yet?

Yeah, not really what I was talking about. I loved The Hunger Games, for example. I have a wide variety of tastes. Like Life of Brian, Rashoman, House of Games, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, Moulin Rouge, A Dangerous Method, Midnight in Paris, Strangers on a Train.

[Krazy]

feelsbadman
well I am going apathy mode too.

lets spread apathy game wide

Get Alisae in here

She can help spread it around

Ank is Alisae town this game?

[Taly]

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[Krazy]

like i've been urging, please wait to actually pair. We have plenty of time and we should intend to make use of it.

I mean we're nearing page 60, what do you want to wait for? 75?