Merchant's Daughter [Endgame]

[Nancy Drew 39]

Too many of my scumreads overlap with being the weaker posters in the thread. Losing some confidence in my townreads

Which ones?

[Nancy Drew 39]

This version of the setup favors scum a lot more than the old one

Yeah definitely, which is why I’m feeling increasingly pessimistic about our chances.

[Nancy Drew 39]

PvtUrist, Krazy, RadiantCowbells, Moment, Dannflor, DoubtingThomas,

Dr Worm

, Vedith, they're pretty cute

Cute /=obnoxious but whatever and Vedith is off the market.

[Nancy Drew 39]

This version of the setup favors scum a lot more than the old one

you mean the version run in Witches Ball and before right?

Due to initial IC reveal.

[Ankamius]

I think you are only dangerous while you have 8 votes.

Although I agree and i do see the reason to be cautious, I think it's being pushed too hard for something that anyone can do.
What's to say Allo (A town read of mine) would be any better? He has stated that I'm Scum enough and shown that he wants me out of the game. Would you sit there and let me just say exactly what you're saying and agree with it?
In all honesty, and a yes or no is NAI to me, if I was town reading you would you actually be pushing shade onto it as much as you are now? Reason i said NAI is because I believe it's a survival reaction from either Scum or town.

And even though I can see the threat to someone having 8 coins I see 5 people leaving taking out the view to see if I lollynch and the potential to see other vote patterns if I don't.
At the end we still lose 5 people. Just my way of thinking gives more information as a whole.

Well a lot of it is personality and how you've played the game entirely up to this point. Naturally part of it is also because you're scumreading me but I wouldn't be worried about it regardless if it was in the hands of somebody I was pretty confident would never be rash about it.

[Gamma Emerald]

Honestly I like the later IC reveal as long as no one craps it up before intermission.
SO BE ON YOUR BEST BEHAVIOR EVERYONE!

[Nancy Drew 39]

DR WORM must EXIT the game before INTERMISION!!

You think you’re actually making it to the first dance?

[Nancy Drew 39]

Honestly I like the later IC reveal as long as no one craps it up before intermission.
SO BE ON YOUR BEST BEHAVIOR EVERYONE!

Why?

[Gamma Emerald]

Because scum can't kill IC, so it lives until the pair is lynched/leaves or the game ends
...I did think of a way for scum to still screw things up. Should I share or no? I rate it Medium on the "random possibilities scum may have already thought up" scale (ratings are Common, Medium, and Rare; btw this is me applying a funny system to something that happens often).

[Vedith]

Well a lot of it is personality and how you've played the game entirely up to this point. Naturally part of it is also because you're scumreading me but I wouldn't be worried about it regardless if it was in the hands of somebody I was pretty confident would never be rash about it.

Fair enough I can see that.
I can tell you now though I'm not going to be voting Willy nilly. This should be to the person with 7 coins too and making a clear but unofficial vote.

[Vedith]

What's you're reads Gamma! \o/

[Nancy Drew 39]

Because scum can't kill IC, so it lives until the pair is lynched/leaves or the game ends
...I did think of a way for scum to still screw things up. Should I share or no? I rate it Medium on the "random possibilities scum may have already thought up" scale (ratings are Common, Medium, and Rare; btw this is me applying a funny system to something that happens often).

Yes, share. I don’t understand how this setup, is good for town at all.

[Gamma Emerald]

What's you're reads Gamma! \o/

Not sure beyond some feelings from before the spamfest (recall feeling you were town and Nancy was scum), but I intend to fix that.

[Nancy Drew 39]

What's you're reads Gamma! \o/

Not sure beyond some feelings from before the spamfest (recall feeling you were town and Nancy was scum), but I intend to fix that.

???

[Vedith]

What's you're reads Gamma! \o/

Not sure beyond some feelings from before the spamfest (recall feeling you were town and Nancy was scum), but I intend to fix that.

Are you caught up int the game or just skimmed it?

[Gamma Emerald]

What's you're reads Gamma! \o/

Not sure beyond some feelings from before the spamfest (recall feeling you were town and Nancy was scum), but I intend to fix that.

???

Didn't like your one-track defense.

What's you're reads Gamma! \o/

Not sure beyond some feelings from before the spamfest (recall feeling you were town and Nancy was scum), but I intend to fix that.

Are you caught up int the game or just skimmed it?

I read as much as I could in full and then skipped to the present when I gave up.

[Vedith]

I read as much as I could in full and then skipped to the present when I gave up.

Fair enough.
Anything you want to know to help towards anything?

[Nancy Drew 39]

What's you're reads Gamma! \o/

Not sure beyond some feelings from before the spamfest (recall feeling you were town and Nancy was scum), but I intend to fix that.

???

Didn't like your one-track defense.

What's you're reads Gamma! \o/

Not sure beyond some feelings from before the spamfest (recall feeling you were town and Nancy was scum), but I intend to fix that.

Are you caught up int the game or just skimmed it?

I read as much as I could in full and then skipped to the present when I gave up.

“One track defense”? What?

[Gamma Emerald]

I feel like your only defense for a long time was "I'm being scumread for asking 'why Ank'"

[Ankamius]

Nancy what do your reads look like now

[Nancy Drew 39]

I feel like your only defense for a long time was "I'm being scumread for asking 'why Ank'"

Why

Ank

? The why part is correct but I’m fairly certain I didn’t single out Ank. So, I’m legit confused why you make it a point to mention Ank over Fire, who was the one hardpushing me?

[Dannflor]

Does scum ever go for the gambit of persistently insisting that they don't really wanna partner up at all for the pre-dance? Apathy isn't necessarily alignment indicative but idk why scum would be that vocal about potentially just offing themselves for the greater good or whatever

Keep saying it means fuck all without actions.
It's 100% AtE so it alone is NAI.
Personally I'm bored of reading it and each time I see Ank post it I read through Dr Worms ISO to get some actual content.

I don't think so. Sure, I could see mafia mentioning this plan once or twice to gain some town cred. But here she's made it the focal point of her posts for the last like 30 pages. If she ends up going through to the dance, she'll probably face pressure in general and for what changed her mind. That's not a risk mafia generally wants to take.

Good enough for me. I've not played with town!Dann before, so I've not got a good reference, but

he's a player I like so I want him as town.

This is the issue I'm feeling. I don't have strong indications of scum!Dann (atleast, not things that I can place into words reliably) but I'm feeling that more than 1 player here is viewing the handsome rogue through rose tinted glasses.

Dann's been pretty charasmatic, and I do like his personality. As redundent as this might be, likability=/=allignment, and at the very least I'd prefer if people didn't conf-town Dann and completely place him out of the equation yet.

I'm blushing

I'm perfectly fine with this read and like the approach.

I tend to get widely town read very early on in the majority of my games and I've started to become rather paranoid about people who do that too easily or default to that when they first see me in a game. Just because it feels like an easy choice, which might have been one of the things that pinged me about Allo when he first came in. Vedith was his top scum read, which I thought was lazy, and I was his top town read. Maybe that's too much paranoia than something to actually care about though.

Hm, I'm having the opposite problem of some people where I'm struggling to get confident scum reads

[Nancy Drew 39]

Because scum can't kill IC, so it lives until the pair is lynched/leaves or the game ends
...I did think of a way for scum to still screw things up. Should I share or no? I rate it Medium on the "random possibilities scum may have already thought up" scale (ratings are Common, Medium, and Rare; btw this is me applying a funny system to something that happens often).

Because scum can't kill IC, so it lives until the pair is lynched/leaves or the game ends
...I did think of a way for scum to still screw things up. Should I share or no? I rate it Medium on the "random possibilities scum may have already thought up" scale (ratings are Common, Medium, and Rare; btw this is me applying a funny system to something that happens often).

Yes, share. I don’t understand how this setup, is good for town at all.

Why haven’t you answered this yet?

I still don’t understand how this setup is beneficial to town.

[Nancy Drew 39]

What's you're reads Gamma! \o/

Not sure beyond some feelings from before the spamfest (recall feeling you were town and Nancy was scum), but I intend to fix that.

I feel like your only defense for a long time was "I'm being scumread for asking 'why Ank'"

Any reads on anyone other than me?

[Vedith]

I don't think so. Sure, I could see mafia mentioning this plan once or twice to gain some town cred. But here she's made it the focal point of her posts for the last like 30 pages. If she ends up going through to the dance, she'll probably face pressure in general and for what changed her mind. That's not a risk mafia generally wants to take.

It's NAI. Either align can do it. As town or Scum they can be legit angry or faking the emotion.
If anyone tries to push it as their reason for town/Scum after pre dance I'm pushing them.