Merchant's Daughter [Endgame]

[Krazy]

I would support ank/rc tbh

Not sure either is that into it tho and I dont want to fuck with wim

[Something_Smart]

I wasn’t talking about actual gender but are you saying that you really think the scumteam could be either all ladies or all gents?

Beacause I don’t think that’s ever happened before in this kind of setup.

I believe the scumteam is random, so the odds of this happening are somewhere in the ballpark of 1/8. Just because it's never happened doesn't mean it's impossible.

[RadiantCowbells]

I would support ank/rc tbh

Not sure either is that into it tho and I dont want to fuck with wim

I don't want to pair with someone with decent wolf equity

[Nancy Drew 39]

I don't see anything in the rules to suggest that the scum can't all be one gender.

They weren’t in Witches’ Ball. Can anyone who was in past FG dance games, confirm this? That none of the past FG dances were all 1 gender? Thanks.

I mean, I suppose it’s possible? \_0_/

[Krazy]

Alright im gonna take a shower and have some breakfast and then see what all I missed last night

[Firebringer]

none of the previous dance games had all scum of one gender.
FG does a RNG for alignments among player list.

[Gamma Emerald]

well me, pvt, and dt are all town so there's that

yo maybe this is the scum team

That isn’t possible. They can’t all be all gents or all ladies. I’m assuming that since we have 9 gents to 8 ladies, probably 2 gents and 1 lady?

This isn't true??? I don't think it's too important rn anyways, whilst I'm still working on reads like I am

What isn’t true? The scumteam can’t all be ladies or all gents and with a 9-8 ratio of gents-ladies, don’t you think 2 scum gents-1 scum lady, makes the most sense?

I mean the "all can't be one gender" thing. Pretty sure in past games FG has said it's possible.
I think Firebringer has the best track record of being in them so Fire can you back me up?

I wasn’t talking about actual gender but are you saying that you really think the scumteam could be either all ladies or all gents?

Beacause I don’t think that’s ever happened before in this kind of setup.

Yeah I don't think it's happened but I don't think it's impossible.
@Krazy reads are coming along, could you repost your read list so I can digest it?

[RadiantCowbells]

ND why haven't you commented on anything I've said or anyone's said about you this page lol

[Firebringer]

She posts like she is mathblade, what do u expect.

[Nancy Drew 39]

At this point my partner choices are Taly/ND I think

So, that would mean, I likely get partnered with you or Krazy then, since both of you want Taly/me?

Dann/Urist/DT also needs to be paired up, as well.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Krazy, you’re so bad.

Do you think anyone would ever fall for this?

No, of course not. You just don’t know Krazy.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Moment, TheBrie, SS, Pvturists are my strongest wolf reads as of right now. I'm very uncomfortable with how closely that aligns with sorting by post count. Hopefully one of them does something to show me that I'm wrong?

I’m concerned about Brie being possible mislynchbait though. So many people were so quick to jump on her, so fast, it concerned me.

[Nancy Drew 39]

I want to be one of ur strongest wolf reads ;(

Would you settle for being one of my strongest canine reads?

[Nancy Drew 39]

Taly I think is most likely village!

Yep, bleeding town.

[Nancy Drew 39]

has anyone read PinkBalls iso this game and just gone "wow this is a good read. 10/10 funniest best posts in this game".

Yeah, he’s mking this game fun. PB is the anti-moment.

[Dannflor]

scum!Urist vs town!Dann; Urist attacking an universally read town and is making a dumb move.

scum!Urist vs scum!Dann; Urist attacking an universal town read and is making a dumb move.

Slept on it, and I think I figured out what was bothering me about this.

Scum can attack people who probably won't get lynched precisely because people can write it off as a dumb town tunnel. It gives you a template of how to play the game without actually having to risk suspicious pushes. Maybe that's too WIFOM. What really bothers me is the fact you tried to lampshade your play twice in a row without attempting to improve it.

I’m concerned about Brie being possible mislynchbait though. So many people were so quick to jump on her, so fast, it concerned me.

I don't really think theBrie is scum either.

Like other people have mentioned, my readslist are correlating somewhat with postcount. I'm pretty confident in some of my town reads though, so I'd say it's possible this is just a more town controlled game.

[Nancy Drew 39]

As long as people talk about the game, sorting will be possible. Doesn't mean you need a complete moratorium on discussing townreads but if most people don't do it (or at the very least, if people don't say which townreads are their strongest), it will be hard for scum to know where town's collective head is at.

I still think unless you have an actual hierarchy or lynch order, it’s not going to make that much of a difference to scum but if people are making questionable reads for not really great reasons, that I think, is still the best way to sort people, Do you disagree with that?

[Something_Smart]

has anyone read PinkBalls iso this game and just gone "wow this is a good read. 10/10 funniest best posts in this game".

I was in agreement until I got to the part where he said he didn't like U2.

[Krazy]

Okay not sure how far you wanted me to read but I disagree with both suggestions. Even if skipping the first dance is technically optimal, in practice 8 days is not enough time to solve a game.

And town's pre-dance reads are not going to be worth very much, so I think it's much more important that each person get a partner they can read, so they know when to leave the dance, or more importantly when NOT to leave the dance.

Both of these points seem false, and I'm not sure what it tells me about S_S's alignment here but it doesn't make me feel better about that slot

-Long deadlines tend to favor scum more than town
-In Halloweens' Ball, the solve was primarily determined in pre-dance, so it's not like it can't happen

I think treating dance 2 like a blitz is still fine, although again, if we get a red flip early in dance 1 we can actually play it out from there without worrying about vedith nearly as much

[Dannflor]

it’s not going to make that much of a difference to scum but if people are making questionable reads for not really great reasons, that I think, is still the best way to sort people, Do you disagree with that?

Honestly this is where my scum reads on Pvt and Allo come from. They both feel similar to "having reads just for the sake of having reads"

Nancy, what are Pink Ball's favorite flowers?

[Something_Smart]

I still think unless you have an actual hierarchy or lynch order, it’s not going to make that much of a difference to scum but if people are making questionable reads for not really great reasons, that I think, is still the best way to sort people, Do you disagree with that?

I will grant that preferred sorting methods differ from person to person. I don't think that "questionable reads for not really great reasons" is something easy to sort based off of, but maybe other people have had success with that method.

And you don't need to give a hierarchy to give information to scum... any statement of "X is obvtown", "X is locktown", "I'm never voting X", etc, gives scum a hint for who to IC.

[Nancy Drew 39]

In this case it can help both town and scum.

Or maybe an interesting twist is: don't talk about your read on your partner unless you strongly scumread them and are considering leaving. That way, if scum IC a townie with a strong townread on their partner it might turn into a town autowin.

Could be but coming from someone who was fooled by scum in a hood in Labrynth, I’m not sure how much confidence the rest of town ought ought to have on that read, if the majority disagree with it.

[Krazy]

How the hell is Alisae scummy?!?

Fire can you expand on what you townread from Alisae?

[Something_Smart]

-Long deadlines tend to favor scum more than town

To a point, sure. But I for one have a life and don't want to be forced to solve in 8 days. If I did I'd have joined a blitz game

-In Halloweens' Ball, the solve was primarily determined in pre-dance, so it's not like it can't happen

Yes, it can happen, but in my experience it's the exception rather than the rule. Definitely not something I'd like to count on.

[PvtUrist]

Honestly this is where my scum reads on Pvt and Allo come from. They both feel similar to "having reads just for the sake of having reads"

Oh no. No no no.

Can't bait me if I have my mouth closed