Merchant's Daughter [Endgame]

[Taly]

did

RC/Ank

literally pair just so they can fucking murder/suicide at First Dance?

what the fuck....

Tbh I wasn't specifically planning to suicide before second dance, I mostly wanted RC to take accountability for his stances

So you're pairing with someone to prove a point rather than your read and cohesion with them as a partner?

That's not good either.

Well obviously I don't want RC to endgame either

IF YOU'RE TOWN YOUR DEATH IS NOT HELPING US EITHER

[Dannflor]

Ask me? I’m kind of pissed at Krazy rn for his double standards.

dw you'll get a good date, I'm holding off on asking anyone for at least a little longer

Our two current pairings aren't great, we should make sure our remaining ones are as good as we can make them

And that pairing is stupid enough to be town/town.

very agree

[Taly]

THIS IS BULLSHIT

[Nancy Drew 39]

did

RC/Ank

literally pair just so they can fucking murder/suicide at First Dance?

what the fuck....

Tbh I wasn't specifically planning to suicide before second dance, I mostly wanted RC to take accountability for his stances

So you're pairing with someone to prove a point rather than your read and cohesion with them as a partner?

That's not good either.

Well obviously I don't want RC to endgame either

IF YOU'RE TOWN YOUR DEATH IS NOT HELPING US EITHER

And to think, people gave Fire and Vedith grief . . .

[Ankamius]

:facepalm: did

RC/Ank

literally pair just so they can fucking murder/suicide at First Dance?

what the fuck....

Tbh I wasn't specifically planning to suicide before second dance, I mostly wanted RC to take accountability for his stances

So you're pairing with someone to prove a point rather than your read and cohesion with them as a partner?

That's not good either.

Well obviously I don't want RC to endgame either

IF YOU'RE TOWN YOUR DEATH IS NOT HELPING US EITHER

If you townread me in the first place, then RC tunneling me is not exactly good for town either, Taly.

[Vedith]

And to think, people gave Fire and Vedith grief . . .

[Taly]

ok rage is subsiding.

If you townread me in the first place, then RC tunneling me is not exactly good for town either, Taly.

You keep making the assumption that one of you MUST be scum, which I both don't agree with, and don't understand the town-produtive motivation here.

[Ankamius]

Like I think people are forgetting that RC literally said that he would specifically look to get me lynched once the dance starts, and yet there is enough support for me to get a relatively town partner that having that go down would be even worse than both of us dying at the start of first dance.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Ask me? I’m kind of pissed at Krazy rn for his double standards.

dw you'll get a good date, I'm holding off on asking anyone for at least a little longer

Our two current pairings aren't great, we should make sure our remaining ones are as good as we can make them

And that pairing is stupid enough to be town/town.

very agree

I’m feeling really pessimistic about this game rn, I wish someone/you would cheer me up?

[Ankamius]

ok rage is subsiding.

If you townread me in the first place, then RC tunneling me is not exactly good for town either, Taly.

You keep making the assumption that one of you MUST be scum, which I both don't agree with, and don't understand the town-produtive motivation here.

I'm mixed on RC now tbh

I think scum RC would have resisted me a lot more than this, but his tone shift after the pairing is giving me pause on it, since that makes more sense to me as scum RC than town RC

[Ankamius]

Nancy can you just CHILL

[Taly]

Like I think people are forgetting that RC literally said that he would specifically look to get me lynched once the dance starts, and yet there is enough support for me to get a relatively town partner that having that go down would be even worse than both of us dying at the start of first dance.

What part of this is specific to

RC's scumrange

?

To an extent, you're letting your pre-game disconnect muddle your thinking, and I think my indignation is pretty well-justified.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Nancy can you just CHILL

Why? I think the game just got lost.

[Krazy]

Ask me? I’m kind of pissed at Krazy rn for his double standards.

how is this a double standard

I am asking you to help me sort Dann

I am asking myself to help you sort Taly

you only think it's a double standard from your point of view because you like taly as town more than I like dann as town

but the reality is that I continue to want to feel strong in my sort of taly and think I would enjoy sorting there, and I don't see why you have so little interest in trying to solidify a sort of dann, when sorting dann is really important to a solve, and the townreads thrown at Taly--as anyone has observed--have been given way too easily

I don't want us paired because I trust your reads, I trust my read of you, and I want one of the two of us to win this game for town

me dancing with you at this point would be me throwing up my hands at this game and giving up on a solve

[Taly]

This spat is useless. The pairing's already been made, and I need to focus back on what I wanted to respond to hours ago.

[Dannflor]

The game is not lost. Ank/RC can hopefully figure out the other is town, and we still have several pairings left to make that can be good

[Ankamius]

Like I think people are forgetting that RC literally said that he would specifically look to get me lynched once the dance starts, and yet there is enough support for me to get a relatively town partner that having that go down would be even worse than both of us dying at the start of first dance.

What part of this is specific to

RC's scumrange

?

To an extent, you're letting your pre-game disconnect muddle your thinking, and I think my indignation is pretty well-justified. :mad:

???

Do you think my reasoning is inherently wrong?

[Nancy Drew 39]

Like I think people are forgetting that RC literally said that he would specifically look to get me lynched once the dance starts, and yet there is enough support for me to get a relatively town partner that having that go down would be even worse than both of us dying at the start of first dance.

What part of this is specific to

RC's scumrange

?

To an extent, you're letting your pre-game disconnect muddle your thinking, and I think my indignation is pretty well-justified.

So is mine. In an ideal world, I’d be able to pair with you or PB. :/

But I’ll try to hold out hope if Dann asks me. I’m too upset with both Krazy and maybe Ank as well now.

[Ankamius]

like

the sheet amount of shit I'm getting for this is completely insane

I don't see how accepting that pairing is inherently bad outside of the fact that I'm one of the only people that isn't townreading RC, which is literally like 80% of the reason I accepted it in the first place.

The problem you all run into is that RC is

literally threatening to dismantle everyone's townreads on me anyways

, which is a lot more damaging to the game than RC taking us both out and saving the gamestate all that trouble for most of the first dance.

I don't fucking get it

[Ankamius]

IF WE ARE BOTH TOWN

THEN US NOT PAIRING TOGETHER IS ALSO BAD FOR THE GAME

[Moment]

like if Moment is just going to be completely inactive in your PT, like he is in thread, why wouldn't you just continue sorting and playing the game?

I'm not "inactive" this game. I have a reasonable level of activity for any game other than one in which upwards of thirty posts are made every twenty four hours and I resent the implication otherwise.

In no way can I be called inactive. Sorry that I don't have a three page ISO and respond to every garbage post in the thread like Nancy Drew does. My first post in this game came before I would even be in prod range and there were already 35 posts.

[Moment]

That should be thirty "pages".

[Ankamius]

Moment what do your reads looks like currently?

[Nancy Drew 39]

Ask me? I’m kind of pissed at Krazy rn for his double standards.

how is this a double standard

I am asking you to help me sort Dann

I am asking myself to help you sort Taly

you only think it's a double standard from your point of view because you like taly as town more than I like dann as town

but the reality is that I continue to want to feel strong in my sort of taly and think I would enjoy sorting there, and I don't see why you have so little interest in trying to solidify a sort of dann, when sorting dann is really important to a solve, and the townreads thrown at Taly--as anyone has observed--have been given way too easily

I don't want us paired because I trust your reads, I trust my read of you, and I want one of the two of us to win this game for town

me dancing with you at this point would be me throwing up my hands at this game and giving up on a solve

You suggested Ank pair with RC and then she baited him to accept, so you helped eliminate one of the players I was considering choosing, so this is now dependant on Dann asking me.

You and whomever can criticize me all you want but I’m not playing with anyone I don’t both townread and get along with.

[Ankamius]

Spoiler:

RC here's what I'm confused about, not going into your scumread on me which I mentioned is really fucking weird.

If your other wolfreads are not going to reach endgame, why are you that opposed to pairing with me since you can ensure I die that way?

Thats dissonance and I really really REALLY do not like that

RC is probably scum.

It's kind of telling that your stance on it is that you don't want to match someone with scum equity instead.

I don't townread ankamius and I'm going to be hard angling to kill her in first dance while I'm definitively alive to make it happen tbh

All my other wolfread aren't going to endgsney

Then what is this RC

What does that matter? Either I'm getting to endgame or I'm not. Which is it?

You literally said you "all my other wolfreads aren't getting to endgame"

And then you say you won't pair with me because I won't get to endgame.

How is any of that disingenuous.

yeah I didn't have any of my own reasons for that nancy