Merchant's Daughter [Endgame]

[Krazy]

[Nancy Drew 39]

Here's my question to you Nancy: what is scum doing to ensure they can get to endgame?

Yea this is what I'm really worried about concerning the current state of teh game. The bottom people just aren't... doing enough. Which as town they should be trying to prove their towniness but also as scum they should be trying even harder to prove their towniness. So it makes me uneasy that there's a lot of players just going with the flow.

you gave dr worm 5 coins? oh fuck no oh god

Can you answer my question about what gent you'd leave behind, Allo?

Also, what is the basis of your Dr Worm scum read? Is it just his posting style?

Yeah, the apathy is the most frustrating part of this game.

[Nancy Drew 39]

you gave dr worm 5 coins? oh fuck no oh god

I'm slightly warming up to this slot going early regardless of alignment

Yeah, I’m not even even convinced he’s scum anymore but Worm is about the least likely gent to yololynch, so this reaction seems unwarranted.

[Taly]

When you want to sort me without relying on someone else's meta, lmk.

Do you think her meta argument is inaccurate?

He feels a lot more like the one town Taly I played with years ago than the over the top scum Taly that I strongly believe he would have opened with like Echo Bay Grits and Labyrinth

The difference is very jarring and its a lot easier to see the genuineness in what he's posting when he plays this way.

No, it's actually VERY accurate. I can be very difficult to sort and sometimes misleading with metadives for people who have little experience with me.

But I'm more predictable after awhile.

However, I DO like people to use in-game examples to townread me, and not rely on meta because that excuses problems that arise from my gameplay, and that's why I don't use meta often with people even when I have experience with them.

~

lmao,

Nancy

, it's taking you 50 fucking years to get to my 2381 I've been watching the thread.

[Ankamius]

is RC your alt?

[Taly]

i just snorted milk through my nose laughing AHHHHHHHH

[Nancy Drew 39]

Yea I'm going to be defending this pair. Extremely wary of people's scum reads on Dr Worm and the quality of those reads

So Nancy, one thing I want from you is evaluating as the game goes on whether Dann is "too right about everything"

I feel like I just like his reads too much and it makes me nervous

I'm not shading, I'm just saying keep sorting as the flips develop

I still like him more than the other gents

I don’t know if he’s “too right about everything” or not but I really like his thought processes. He seems to be actively engaged, continually evaluating and flexible about reading the gamestate. Do you disagree?

But I still need the PT, to be really confident like I am on Ank/Taly.

[Ankamius]

i just snorted milk through my nose laughing AHHHHHHHH

<3

[Krazy]

Taly is actually a hydra of RC and Ankamius

true story

[Nancy Drew 39]

Here's my question to you Nancy: what is scum doing to ensure they can get to endgame?

Yea this is what I'm really worried about concerning the current state of teh game. The bottom people just aren't... doing enough. Which as town they should be trying to prove their towniness but also as scum they should be trying even harder to prove their towniness. So it makes me uneasy that there's a lot of players just going with the flow.

you gave dr worm 5 coins? oh fuck no oh god

Can you answer my question about what gent you'd leave behind, Allo?

Also, what is the basis of your Dr Worm scum read? Is it just his posting style?

Are you seeing how I'm approaching the game now

There's no obvious plan the scum have for this game if you take the game at face value, and that's a sign that there's either trickery going on or the scumteam is just doomed from the start.

Has anyone played in this kind of setup, when scum actually won, because I remember from Witches’ Ball, before I replaced in, that the scumteam were blatantly obvious, due to LLD scum theater with Fire/Short. It was so obviously fake, I don’t know how it took town as long as it did to bust them. I never would have subbed into Short slot but I wanted to play so badly, I just told FG, to sub me in at the first available opportunity.

[Something_Smart]

However, I DO like people to use in-game examples to townread me, and not rely on meta because that excuses problems that arise from my gameplay

I don't follow. What do you mean by that last bit?

[Krazy]

No one has played this exact version of the setup before, but scum have won the previous version at least twice iirc

[Allomancer]

By the way, now that I'm paired I can freely claim my coinage: I'm the 5 coin lady

you gave dr worm 5 coins? oh fuck no oh god

What do you even care if you're not townreading me

why do i care about who gets the most votes? I dunno, because if you give lots of votes to scum we lose?

[Pink Ball]

Why do you care if you're not townreading me. You answered something I didn't ask

[Allomancer]

@Allo,

which gent would you choose to leave behind?

well vedith, worm and rc are my top scumreads but they are all paired. So i guess you, because you're the top unpaired scumgent.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Townreads are, in playerlist order, RC, Allo, Worm, Vedith, Ank, Taly.

Also, I thought you were scum reading Taly. But maybe I misunderstood something.

I was nullreading Taly. But I townread Ank and she seems to have a pretty strong grasp on Taly's meta.

When you want to sort me without relying on someone else's meta, lmk.

^And to be clear, this is not "suspicion" I'm casting, I'm being truthful.

Taly any progress on bottom two ladies/bottom three gents? Given a few people listed Allo as their top fos, and he has offered a dance to Brie, do you feel Allo should be paired?

I'm not feeling strong enough on anyone being 100% ruled out, especially early-phase scumreads.

And I don't have strong scumreads, so what value is me giving bottom 2 ladies and bottom 3 gents?

I have more bottom gents than bottom ladies, though.

Tbh Taly I think there's not much to do about it by this point

I really just want you to be aware that he could be trying to play the long game here, which involves the scumteam predominantly pocketing their partners of choice.

FTR if RC is legitimately scum here, I would be far more suspicious of Krazy than I already am since my presence would be the biggest danger for him and it would make RC's overall play with this make perfect sense.

*shrug* RC

is town to me.

I have nothing to say to her. Only you, Ank, and fb are townreads.

Brie, PB, and GE are null-reads;

i wasn't really sure about the order.

Okay looks like people are pairing. I better hurry up. I know Taly won't pair with me, so

I'm going with my second highest townread unpaired lady

.

TheBrie, dance with me?

Brie, you can do better. This is desperate.

Depending on who Taly chooses, one of Krazy/DT/Urist, I think?

I'm literally seconds away from accepting

Krazy

, do you think it's too early?

No but is Ank supposed to make some case yet or did I miss that?

I think you should trust your gut instincts and go with that.

[Allomancer]

Why do you care if you're not townreading me. You answered something I didn't ask

i literally just told you why i care.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Go ahead Taly

I'm pretty much tapped out of the game now

You and RC both.

[Nancy Drew 39]

I'm really happy for Nancy and Dann

<3 And I’m happy for you and Worm. You two make a cute couple.

Love wins. I feel like George Harrison and you being Eric Clapton

So Dann is Patti Boyd (not an expert on this)?

[Ankamius]

Go ahead Taly

I'm pretty much tapped out of the game now

You and RC both. :(

I think I've done everything I can

rest is up to you guys, gl

[Nancy Drew 39]

I expect the scumteam to have me as null in this game, specially after pairing with dr worm who, despite being townread now, it's easy to "change their mind" about him and mislynch us. Guess what fuckos: not gonna happen

Yea I'm going to be defending this pair. Extremely wary of people's scum reads on Dr Worm and the quality of those reads

Keep an eye on how people treat Moment and TheBrie too. I'd bet money on both of them being town.

I can maybe see Brie but why Moment? I’m still null on her.

don't think anything I can say on that will matter

I doubt moment is making it very far regardless

Whatever my read on Moment, she doesn’t strike me as a yololyncher but ideally I’l like 8 couples in the first dance, due to the coin mechanic.

[Pink Ball]

Why do you care if you're not townreading me. You answered something I didn't ask

i literally just told you why i care.

And I literally just told you that your answer is not what I asked. If you're not townreading me, pairing with someone you're scumreading me should be good from your perspective.

[Pink Ball]

I'm really happy for Nancy and Dann

<3 And I’m happy for you and Worm. You two make a cute couple.

Love wins. I feel like George Harrison and you being Eric Clapton

So Dann is Patti Boyd (not an expert on this)?

Exactly! Also known as Layla

[Nancy Drew 39]

When you want to sort me without relying on someone else's meta, lmk.

Do you think her meta argument is inaccurate?

He feels a lot more like the one town Taly I played with years ago than the over the top scum Taly that I strongly believe he would have opened with like Echo Bay Grits and Labyrinth

The difference is very jarring and its a lot easier to see the genuineness in what he's posting when he plays this way.

I don't see a scenario where scum would *want* a scum/scum pairing unless they were forced into it.

Yes because unless all 3 scum make the F2, I don’t see how they’d win.

Here's my question to you Nancy: what is scum doing to ensure they can get to endgame?

Plotting mislynches, I’d assume. Isn’t that what scum usually does?

does that matter if

there's two all-town pairings that will reach endgame

before everyone else

Two?

[Ankamius]

When you want to sort me without relying on someone else's meta, lmk.

Do you think her meta argument is inaccurate?

He feels a lot more like the one town Taly I played with years ago than the over the top scum Taly that I strongly believe he would have opened with like Echo Bay Grits and Labyrinth

The difference is very jarring and its a lot easier to see the genuineness in what he's posting when he plays this way.

I don't see a scenario where scum would *want* a scum/scum pairing unless they were forced into it.

Yes because unless all 3 scum make the F2, I don’t see how they’d win.

Here's my question to you Nancy: what is scum doing to ensure they can get to endgame?

Plotting mislynches, I’d assume. Isn’t that what scum usually does?

does that matter if

there's two all-town pairings that will reach endgame

before everyone else

Two?

start second dance with 2 pairings that are all town

scorched earth everybody else

gg