Merchant's Daughter [Endgame]

[Pink Ball]

Gamma/PvtUrist

[Dannflor]

I like Moment more than any of the other unpaired gentleman, so I'd support Gamma/Moment

Probably comes down to who she prefers though

[Dannflor]

Ooh Moment/theBrie I'd feel better about as a town pairing though

[Krazy]

Oh right Pvt isn't paired yet

Tricky questions

who is more town out of moment and Pvt

who is more town out of gamma and brie

[TheBrie]

Vedith - Firebringer are 8 coin pair

I meant 7 coins then. Whatever the top coins were. I'd not have chosen for 7 coins to go to Krazy. I don't trust Krazy (mostly due to not knowing and thus not knowing how to read, and being influenced by what ank has said,)

RC

, are you going to follow-up on your opinions with the pairs and reasons of them? Mostly regarding

Dan/Krazy/Nancy/I

?

I don't know if

Krazy+Nancy

would work out if you're still thinking

Dann+Me

is most optimal.

TheBrie

, who do you want to pair with? And why is

Krazy+Me

better than

Dann+Taly

or that

Dann+Nancy

is good?

You townread

GE

? What do you think is a good pair for them?

I wanted Dann + Nancy because I trust them to read each other. And that's probably half because I've played with Nancy more recently with you. And I think you'll do well with Krazy. As you said when you accepted, you're not going to auto lock town him.

[Something_Smart]

I'm actually calling you out SS, that by saying that seems like you're planning a push on obvious town pair Nancy/Dann in case your scumpartner Allo flips

Right, because I'm definitely in a position to push on an obvtown pair as scum, you know, with all the people townreading me and all

[Pink Ball]

PvtUrist/Gamma and Moment/TheBrie. If Moment and TheBrie has both been null/scumread by a lot of players, better have them together than separated. Also Pvt is town and Gamma probably

[Taly]

I'm going to ISO-group

Moment/Brie/Gamma

and get back to your question

It shouldn't take very long (though I do need to get food and take a shower in a bit)

[Pink Ball]

I'm actually calling you out SS, that by saying that seems like you're planning a push on obvious town pair Nancy/Dann in case your scumpartner Allo flips

Right, because I'm definitely in a position to push on an obvtown pair as scum, you know, with all the people townreading me and all

Good point again

[Pink Ball]

So my final suggestion is:
PvtUrist/Gamma
Moment/TheBrie
DoubtingThomas/SS
Allonely, I'm so lonely (8)

[Nancy Drew 39]

If Allo flips scum, the simplest way to explain his flubbing is to say that he initially put his buddy Dannflor as town and then his team later decided that Allo should distance from Dann, and he did so very awkwardly.

Oh ok I get your point, good catch.

But Dann is town tho

I think it’s a tossup which one of Allo/SS, has the most unusual reads.

People always tend to jump to of X is pushing on Y, then X and Y must be linked. Tywin thought me and Zito were scum partners in Necromancer for this reason, when we were actually both town. I’m not picking up SvS vibes from their interactions.

[Ankamius]

So Ank how have you been these last few months anyway?

eh

probably not stuff I should be posting publicly

how about you

[TheBrie]

Doing catchup up haven't read past #3062. Breaking my rely up into pieces. This is piece two.

I don't see a scenario where scum would *want* a scum/scum pairing unless they were forced into it.

Truth. The chance of two scum being so highly town read that they could survive together is unlikely. Especially as scum will kill one of the top town couples, and likely IC someone in the other. They can't do either if a top town couple is actually both scum.

I have nothing to say to her. Only you, Ank, and fb are townreads.

Brie, PB, and GE are null-reads;

i wasn't really sure about the order.

Okay looks like people are pairing. I better hurry up. I know Taly won't pair with me, so

I'm going with my second highest townread unpaired lady

.

TheBrie, dance with me?

Brie, you can do better. This is desperate.

It is desperate. It also reads as fairly genuine. I'm not sure if he'd act that brazenly and obviously desperate as scum.

The bold was broken, so I wouldn't have noticed him asking if no one had commented. I'm not going. I feel like Allo or I would end up leaving. I couldn't trust him, and I feel as if he might be townreading me as a pocketing attempt. Just cause I'm surprised to be someone's second highest town lady. though he said unpaired, so I suppose it's reasonable. And it does feel like being desperate to dance with someone.

Allo, if you really want to dance with me, you'll have to talk to me first. Give me flowers, or explain why you town and scum read certain people. And be more careful when referring to players.

[Something_Smart]

If Allo flips scum, the simplest way to explain his flubbing is to say that he initially put his buddy Dannflor as town and then his team later decided that Allo should distance from Dann, and he did so very awkwardly.

Oh ok I get your point, good catch.

But Dann is town tho

If anything, this would imply that Allo is town. With whatever degree of confidence we accept the premises that (a) if Allo is scum, then Dann is scum and (b) Dann is town, we must accept the conclusion that (c) Allo is town with the same degree of confidence.

Probably not more than, like, 60% or 70%, depending on how confident you are in (b). But I don't know if Allo is the best choice to be left behind.

Also I have this nasty feeling that I'm going to be the last lady unpaired and I'm going to have to choose who dies.

[Krazy]

PvtUrist, Krazy, RadiantCowbells, Moment, Dannflor, DoubtingThomas, Dr Worm, Vedith, they're pretty cute

I'm not expecting to make it into the last 6, take that as you will.

{Krazy, Taly, Anka, ND39, Allo, Gamma, Vedith, DT, Brie}
{Alisae, FB, Dr.W, RC}
{PB, Dann, Moment}

are where I'm at.

Dann's posts continues to ping scum to me.

3-shot Compulsive Dayvig

go

Feel like I should have pushed Pvt on Dannscum earlier since I think a bit more pressure there would have helped. I really kinda started to dislike how there was so much more emphasis on "why won't Krazy offer Nancy" rather than "why isn't Dann town enough for Nancy"

Pvt, you don't think you're making final 6, once pairings finish the game is going to go fast -- if you want to sell us on Dann scum you might want to do that sooner than later.

That being said the compulsive dayvig game had a slightly townie taste to it for someone struggling to lock on to the gamestate.

I could be sold on Pvt > Moment maybe

[Pink Ball]

Errrr why would Dann being town make Allo town? That correlation sounds more wacky

[Ankamius]

I could be sold on Gamma/Moment

I don't know if Ank actually wants to sell it, actually she might not like it

But anyway, that was a thought I just had

idrc anymore tbh

[Krazy]

So Ank how have you been these last few months anyway?

eh

probably not stuff I should be posting publicly

how about you

Mixed but better I'd say

Some health stuff cleared up, some work stuff went poorly. I think I'd take the improvement in health right now though. Funny to think of it that way; makes me grateful even though there's been some stress lately.

I'm glad you've kinda come back, I'm hoping to see you in more games. I do enjoy playing with you.

[TheBrie]

Last post before I read the moist recent ones.

I want Gamma paired and I have no idea which gent would work for her given she's clearly been struggling to keep up/engage with the game. I'm not sure if that means we should pair her with someone quiet who is also working on catchups like moment, or someone that might help her keep track of what's going on... like... idk Pvt?

My tonal townreads on Gamma can be wrong though, but I'm still feeling pretty decent about her this game albeit off a low sample size of posts.

I don't know if I've played with Scum Gamma, but as town, she can be a bit scummy. I've seen her as the victim of a town driven misslynch.

Taly is actually a hydra of RC and Ankamius

true story

Well that explains everything.

I expect the scumteam to have me as null in this game, specially after pairing with dr worm who, despite being townread now, it's easy to "change their mind" about him and mislynch us. Guess what fuckos: not gonna happen

Yea I'm going to be defending this pair. Extremely wary of people's scum reads on Dr Worm and the quality of those reads

Keep an eye on how people treat Moment and TheBrie too. I'd bet money on both of them being town.

I can maybe see Brie but why Moment? I’m still null on her.

don't think anything I can say on that will matter

I doubt moment is making it very far regardless

Whatever my read on Moment, she doesn’t strike me as a yololyncher but ideally I’l like 8 couples in the first dance, due to the coin mechanic.

I've never really seen a good scum read articulated on Moment. It's mostly been admitted be correlated with low posting.

[Nancy Drew 39]

I'm back to being OK with

Allo

being left behind for multiple of his recent posts, but I'm curious about

TheBrie's

read of him if she's willing.

But until we have more pairs, I'm not 100% on this yet. Also making note of 3062 for later reference.

I also want

Vedith

to explain if his read on

Allo

has changed at all, and why/why not.

*Check if I miss something or have something incorrect*

Firebringer+Vedith=8 Coins
Taly+Krazy=7 Coins
Gamma Emerald+?=6 Coins
Dr. Worm+Pinkball=5 Coins
Ankamius+RC=4 Coins
Nancy+Dannflor=? Coins (don't out unless you'd like)

TheBrie and S_S are the only other lady's unpaired aside from GE.

I suggest regardless of reads, all ladies should be paired for as many potential town as possible.

2.


So, we’re missing 3 and single coin lady.

[Ankamius]

So Ank how have you been these last few months anyway?

eh

probably not stuff I should be posting publicly

how about you

Mixed but better I'd say

Some health stuff cleared up, some work stuff went poorly. I think I'd take the improvement in health right now though. Funny to think of it that way; makes me grateful even though there's been some stress lately.

I'm glad you've kinda come back, I'm hoping to see you in more games. I do enjoy playing with you.

idk, I might play a couple more before vanishing again, I'm not sure yet

this is the only one I'm in currently though

[Krazy]

Please stop.

Funny that this is probably the towniest post Moment made in my mind lol

and it's still basically NAI

[Something_Smart]

Errrr why would Dann being town make Allo town? That correlation sounds more wacky

If we were to assume that the statement "if Allo is scum, then Dann is scum" is true, and we also assume that "Dann is town" is true, then by contraposition, we could conclude that "Allo is town" is also true.

Therefore, the more confident we are in those two premises, the more confident we can be in the conclusion.

Or, to use words instead of logic: it's not likely that scum-Allo flubs his read like that on a townie. Since you're confident Dann is town, it means that Allo is less likely scum for it.

[Dannflor]

I'm not sold Allo didn't just drop his town read of me because I started hard pushing him.

Feel like I should have pushed Pvt on Dannscum earlier since I think a bit more pressure there would have helped. I really kinda started to dislike how there was so much more emphasis on "why won't Krazy offer Nancy" rather than "why isn't Dann town enough for Nancy"

I've been trying to engage with PvT about his read on me literally all game and he's been straight up ignoring me. It's one of the main reasons I just can't feel good about him.

But I don't know if Allo is the best choice to be left behind.

Also I have this nasty feeling that I'm going to be the last lady unpaired and I'm going to have to choose who dies.

Who would you choose to be left behind, if you had to choose?

[Krazy]

idk, I might play a couple more before vanishing again, I'm not sure yet

this is the only one I'm in currently though

Well I hope that you do