Newbie 1913 - game over!!

[Roo]

I say go for the hammer. Saint is the most logical scum. Is there really anything brass can say at this point to move him to being the primary suspicion?

It’s time to end this game, Saint is scum.

[Roo]

Saint, you are now at L-1

Please nobody hammer Saint just yet as I'd really like to hear from Brass.

oh yeah almost forgot you requested to hold off the hammer whew..
for formality's sake i guess:

@saint im declaring intent to hammer, though im not hammering you until brass comes back from V/LA..

please make your defense, and (a) scum case(s) on who you think is/are scummy..thanks!

I guess this makes sense haha

[L84Dnr]

I say go for the hammer. Saint is the most logical scum. Is there really anything brass can say at this point to move him to being the primary suspicion?

It’s time to end this game, Saint is scum.

I don't expect Brass to say anything that will move the suspicion onto him. He might have insights into others though.

I agree that Saint is most likely scum, but in the unlikely event that he flips green I don't want to have wasted a chance to get more information on Day 3. If this game goes to Day 4 it's going to be a rough one and we'll need all the info we can get. We have lots of time to wait for Brass to chime in with his thoughts.

[L84Dnr]

@The Worst

If Saint doesn't respond to his prod then it'd be crappy to sub some poor bugger into his slot. I humbly suggest that we extend his deadline until Brass can chip in. If Saint hasn't made a peep by that point then I'm not thinking there will be a need to fill his slot.

[xwing]

my suggestion is, if saint goes into replace range, i will just hammer the slot, as majority of us have reached consensus that it's scummiest anyway..that way, there's no need for someone to replace into a heavily suspected slot..(or is that what you're saying already lol)..

or i can just hammer now if you're fine with it..

[SaintAngelDFE]

My scum lean is still xwing. People were making reads based on the interactions between brass and DT, but nobody mentioned the fact that outside of the single post from xwing there have been maybe two or three posts between the two slots. To me, this looks like a scum v scum distancing done to the extreme. I'd like to look deeper into this, but it's not looking like I'll be able to stay off the noose long enough to see it through.
I have no scum reads from Roo or L8, at this point they're both still hunting past me while xwing has been b-lining for my lynch since d1.

[xwing]

My scum lean is still xwing. People were making reads based on the interactions between brass and DT, but nobody mentioned the fact that outside of the single post from xwing there have been maybe two or three posts between the two slots. To me, this looks like a scum v scum distancing done to the extreme.

sorry, i didnt get what you mean here..can you please elaborate? do you mean that i didnt interact with DT besides two or three posts? is this your reason to find me scummier than any of the other 3 players? assuming i'm town, who would be other scum and why?

I'd like to look deeper into this, but it's not looking like I'll be able to stay off the noose long enough to see it through.
I have no scum reads from Roo or L8, at this point they're both still hunting past me while xwing has been b-lining for my lynch since d1.

what do you think of brass? what do you mean by "hunting past" you? why did you lean town on me when i've been on your tail ever since D1? i havent changed my stance at all.. why do you town read roo and l8?

[L84Dnr]

My scum lean is still xwing. People were making reads based on the interactions between brass and DT, but nobody mentioned the fact that outside of the single post from xwing there have been maybe two or three posts between the two slots. To me, this looks like a scum v scum distancing done to the extreme. I'd like to look deeper into this, but it's not looking like I'll be able to stay off the noose long enough to see it through.
I have no scum reads from Roo or L8, at this point they're both still hunting past me while xwing has been b-lining for my lynch since d1.

Points for original reasoning in this read, but I'll have to deduct them again for being used against you more effectively than against Xwing. Looking through your ISO I can't find a single post where you actually speak to DT or Blurry. Did I miss one?

You voted DT in Post 163, but never actually say anything to him. Then in Post 310 you upgrade your read on him to "null/town", but again never speak to him. Despite that improved reading, your vote remains on his slot even after Blurry replaces him.

Can you explain why you were voting to lynch somebody that you were reading "null/town" even after they had been replaced by a new player?

While you're at it, can you explain why we should lynch Xwing for only a few interactions with DT/Blurry when you don't seem to have had any?

[the worst]

vote count 3.03

L84Dnr (0) :
Roo (0) :
SaintAngelDFE (2) : L84Dnr, Roo
xwing (1) : SaintAngelDFE
brassherald (0) :

not voting: xwing, brassherald

with 5 alive it takes 3 to lynch.

day one will end automatically in (expired on 2019-02-13 07:30:00) or sooner if a lynch is achieved by majority.

mod notes:
- xwing regular v/la over weekends
- brassherald v/la 4-9th February
- quack

[L84Dnr]

@Brass

What's your take on Saint?

Assuming Saint flips green, what's your take on everybody else?

[Roo]

Just checking in even though this game is at a standstill.

Waiting for Brass to get back. I feel like we should’ve just lynched Saint.

@Saint do you have any more detailed reads on anybody? Any in depth reads on why you town read myself and L8?

[the worst]

vote count 3.04

L84Dnr (0) :
Roo (0) :
SaintAngelDFE (2) : L84Dnr, Roo
xwing (1) : SaintAngelDFE
brassherald (0) :

not voting: xwing, brassherald

with 5 alive it takes 3 to lynch.

day one will end automatically in (expired on 2019-02-13 07:30:00) or sooner if a lynch is achieved by majority.

mod notes:
- prodding SaintAngelDFE
- xwing regular v/la over weekends
- brassherald v/la 4-9th February
- quack

[L84Dnr]

Waiting for Brass to get back. I feel like we should’ve just lynched Saint.

I know, it's tempting. I'd just like the IC's perspective before we lynch Saint.

[Roo]

Just checking in even though this game is at a standstill.

Waiting for Brass to get back. I feel like we should’ve just lynched Saint.

@Saint do you have any more detailed reads on anybody? Any in depth reads on why you town read myself and L8?

[the worst]

Seeking a replacement for brassherald.
Sorry for the delay.

[xwing]

oh no.. :-s
should i just lynch or wait for brass replacement..

[Roo]

I say lynch. Saint is the much stronger scum read for me. No need to delay if we are probably lynching Saint anyway

[xwing]

okay im going for the hammer..
sorry l8, hope you dont mind..we tried to wait..

VOTE: saint

[the worst]

SaintAngelDFE has been lynched.

He was a.......

Spoiler:

MAFIA GOON!

[the worst]

L84Dnr, Roo, xwing and brassherald, all Vanilla Townies, survive and win!

Congratulations to the town!

[the worst]

I'm gonna call Eragon a half winner - he pm'd me before xwing hammered offering to replace in but I didn't see the pm before the game ended

thank you all for playing - I'm sorry for how long that rep out took. in retrospect I probably should've taken more proactive measures around checking earlier that brass would be unable to post at all & maybe should have suggested we find a replacement a few days ago.

The flake out did take me by surprise but it's something I should have anticipated better.

Despite my poor call on this front-- I hope you all had some fun at least. Thanks everyone who stuck around and posted for keeping the game's energy alive.


I'll release PTs asap.

[xwing]

tw, thanks for the timely modding!! sorry we made you exert more effort trying to find a replacement..hope it didnt waste a lot of your time..and in fairness, brass did say he was coming back on the weekend..it's all gooooood..

good job town, almost flawless victory..
nice playing with you all!

[L84Dnr]

Thanks for a great game TW! Not your fault that players kept dropping off the face of the planet. Replacing at this incredibly late stage would have been very difficult and I agree entirely with X-wing's hammer. Cleanest way to take care of the problem since Saint's goose was pretty thoroughly cooked.

[L84Dnr]

And thanks to everybody else for a good game. It's nice to play one where there's no personal nastiness tossed about.

Would anybody with some experience like to critique the play? I only have a few basic comments:

- Shy scum are dead scum. Lurking in the shadows will get you lynched.

- Playing anti-wincon will get you mislynched. It's important for everybody to play to their wincon in order to have a good game, town and scum both.

[the worst]

Both great comments. <3

Yeah I'll drop some comments a little later. (Saint asked for some as well; if he reappears I'll do a bit of a write-up)

You were so radiantly obviously town, L84Dnr. You have a kind of energy that not a lot of people (esp. newbies) seem to anymore. It was quite a pleasure to see.