Merchant's Daughter [Endgame]

[Moment]

I'll leave first dance if RC promises to never sign up for another game where I'm already in the player list.

Seems uncalled-for.

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Brie, you're breaking my heart.

[RadiantCowbells]

i don't understand why you think that i'm acting like a douche and I would actually appreciate that explanation

[Ankamius]

if we're not then you'll paranoia kill me at final 6 100% of the time

RC I'm not actually as bad at the game as you usually see me

you stated that I shouldn't be less paranoid of you because we're melding, and yeah that's right in a vacuum

but in a situation where you're almost universally townread and I

independently

am reaching a lot of the same conclusions you are (and there's no evidence that you're specifically pushing them to match mine), that is a lot more telling. This is

almost exactly

how I townread you so easily in FO4 and specifically held on to it despite punreader trying to push me away from that read. Yeah you're a capable scum, but I don't think your specific scum style creates this kind of situation when you're planning on leaving immediately anyways

[Krazy]

Every game with a gladiation mechanic you yolo the shit out of it that I join

I say you and Ank should be a top 10 pairing, you join and then make every other post a reminder that you're just going to leave

You're basically doing everything you can to disrupt town cohesion, while simultaneously demanding that every other player in the game follow your plans

[Ankamius]

there is no world

where you consider lynching a dann/nd or brie/moment pair in 4 way with me

you speed leave the game

that win equity is imaginary

and i don't need the heartbreak of trying to convince you that i'm town when it's never going to do anything

it depends a lot more on the situation and who the flipped scum are, actually

like I suspect that there's scum in the pool that is shading brie; if that's proven false, then I won't townread her for that anymore, etc.etc.

[RadiantCowbells]

Every game with a gladiation mechanic you yolo the shit out of it that I join

I say you and Ank should be a top 10 pairing, you join and then make every other post a reminder that you're just going to leave

You're basically doing everything you can to disrupt town cohesion, while simultaneously demanding that every other player in the game follow your plans

ok

but

fmpov

what is a top 10 pairing

it means literally nothing

i don't expect us to get into a situation with a double scum pair making the 3rd highest pairing

do you understand why mechanically i think that the entire idea is bs?

[RadiantCowbells]

like this isn't a read disagreement

this is a mechanically I think that our time of dying is inconsequential unless there's a world in which we don't die at all

[Krazy]

I literally can't even tell if this is a gambit right now and I don't even know if I should ask, but this is this game:

Krazy: Maybe we should hold off on dancing until we have a plan
Vedith: Firebringer let's dance
Firebringer: Ok. Also I have all the coins

Krazy: Well that makes things complicated since that wasn't a consensus read. Ok so maybe we should split pairing and try to get our strong players alive to second dance. I think Ank/RC presents a good chance for RC to not get shot
RC: I'm leaving first dance with Ank, one of your townreads

Krazy: Ok cool. Maybe we should keep the exact structure of our other pairings unclear given that we now don't have the pairings for a consensus strong endgame townblock
RC: OK i'm going to start giving my dictation for endgame pairings so that everyone can dead sheep me

Krazy: OK, why do I even sign up for games with you

I don't know RC

I don't know if you just hate every post I write on this account

Or if you have some sort of festering frustration with me from previous games

but it seems like you yell for everyone else to follow exact plans while, yourself, doing whatever the fuck you want at the drop of a hat

[RadiantCowbells]

Every game with a gladiation mechanic you yolo the shit out of it that I join

I say you and Ank should be a top 10 pairing, you join and then make every other post a reminder that you're just going to leave

You're basically doing everything you can to disrupt town cohesion, while simultaneously demanding that every other player in the game follow your plans

i'm genuinely curious in what way you feel that i've disrupted town cohesion or demanded that every other player in the game follow my plans

i've literally... refused to do any of that

[Krazy]

I don't even know man, I just don't understand why you insist on making it so fucking hard to work with you in any game I play on this account

[Krazy]

You pairing to ank and threatening to leave her:
a) fucks up my townblock
b) means that first lynch is non consensus and is open to a vedith-scum swing (I don't even really scumread vedith but he's still slightly below null for me)
and
c) means that I am now constantly second guessing myself on the objectivity of your reads

[RadiantCowbells]

i scumread you the entire game and still made an effort to engage with you lol

idk should i reread my iso or something? i'm not seeing where this is coming from unless it's literally just frustration that i don't like the you/taly pairing

You pairing to ank and threatening to leave her:

if ank wasn't going to leave me i wouldn't leave her

[Krazy]

Maybe I'm overreacting

I'm probably overreacting

I should go have some dessert and go back to not thinking of this game for a while

[Ankamius]

like this isn't a read disagreement

this is a mechanically I think that our time of dying is inconsequential unless there's a world in which we don't die at all

I think I'd only paranoiakill you if you specifically refused to work with anybody for the whole game

otherwise I'd have to get a strong scumread to leave

[RadiantCowbells]

no like

if you feel like this is something that i've done

i'm welcome to you going through my iso finding quotes and explaining where your problem with me is

this has not been a fuck the police i'm doing my shit game from me as far as i can tell and if it has i would appreciate you pointing it out to me so that i can reconsider my approach

[Ankamius]

btw, in that reads list I posted earlier

strong scumread means a block lower than I have

anybody

in

so

[Krazy]

if ank wasn't going to leave me i wouldn't leave her

See, I was happy with you and Ank as a pairing before this, but now that you've done this massive thing of AtE about threatening to leave dance 1 I don't even know--should you? I feel like you are trying to manipulate the town emotionally at this point

[Krazy]

Literally no one in this game was saying you should pair with Ank if your intention was to leave her

[Krazy]

That's not me--that's fucking everyone

This "I'm leaving with Ank" thing seems like it was only done to either wifom this shit out of this game or to fuck any attempt at plans or cohesion

No one wanted that

[RadiantCowbells]

if ank wasn't going to leave me i wouldn't leave her

See, I was happy with you and Ank as a pairing before this, but now that you've done this massive thing of AtE about threatening to leave dance 1 I don't even know--should you? I feel like you are trying to manipulate the town emotionally at this point

ok so should i leave dance 1

i expected this kind of reaction

see how this is a catch-22?

[RadiantCowbells]

you're playing against the town by agreeing to leave but if you're not you're a scum so we're going to make you leave anyway

[Krazy]

i'm not seeing where this is coming from unless it's literally just frustration that i don't like the you/taly pairing

I'm used to you scumreading me incorrectly, that's literally town indicative for you, what I *don't* like is you coupling your scumread of me with a manipulative AtE threat to leave the game with one of my stronger townreads which prevents me from feeling like I can have an objective conversation with you about the merit of your reads

[PvtUrist]

what on earth is this argument

[Krazy]

you're playing against the town by agreeing to leave but if you're not you're a scum so we're going to make you leave anyway

Yeah, you yourself are aware this is the exact argument people would make, which is why I would have preferred you not make it in the first place.

I did not have a strong read on you, and I still do NOT have a strong read on you, but if you had wanted to be read objectively, why would you make it as hard as possible to do that?

[Ankamius]

RC I'm not going to leave unless the rest of the town specifically wants it :S