Merchant's Daughter [Endgame]

[DoubtingThomas]

I'm actually somewhat diffident about townreading TheBrie

Moment seems kinda locked to me

why moment?

also who out of the ladies are town to you

we have brie gamma and SS left? right

[RadiantCowbells]

Wait I'm suddenly like

Alarm bells about TheBrie

Hmmmmm

[DoubtingThomas]

ding ding ding

[Something_Smart]

I guess the viability of me/Moment depends on how strongly he townreads me then.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Scum gentlemen are among {Krazy, RC, Allo, DT}.
Scum ladies among {GE, PB}.

Decided just now to leave Urist out becaues of 3283.

Why Krazy, RC?

[DoubtingThomas]

SS u dont want to dance with me?

[Something_Smart]

Do you know why people were townreading TheBrie in the first case? I feel like it was like that when I came in and I haven't gotten any strong feelings on her since then.

[DoubtingThomas]

something abotu her posts man

for me, it's that i didnt like your self-consciousness about how you are being viewed by others and gamma just having wolfy pop ins all the time

and then thinking it is unlikely all 3 left over ladies are wolves and brie looking to seemingly have consistent urge to try to solve people

[Something_Smart]

SS u dont want to dance with me?

Depends. Being able to read your partner is very important so if Moment actually has a strong townread on me then he becomes the perfect candidate for me to pair with.
If not, I don't have any objection to dancing with you but I doubt we get very far.

[RadiantCowbells]

If TheBrie is wolf Vedith/Fire probably contains 1 wolf

[Nancy Drew 39]

Moment could you go into your townreads a bit? I have a reasonably strong townread on you and I think town needs to be able to figure that out too

I believe I've justified most of them, not that anyone reads anything I post (as evidenced by PB).

PvtUrist I decided to sort as town for his insistence that he should be lynched soon. I believe this to be genuine, and something that comes from town.

Dr Worm I townread for a similar reason, which I pointed out here.

Ok I reread Worm's iso now that I'm like 60% sure of his main and I'm still not sure but I'm not sure I entirely want him in my bottom two, and if I'm redoing my bottom males entirely then I should be thinking about DT anyway.

If Worm doesn't want to survive intermission I am not strongly opposed to him suicide bombing a scum lady although Alisae will probably say I'm scum for mentioning it--but I'm just being real here, Dance 2 will probably be hectic AF and my impression right now is that he doesn't want to replace out but can't keep up with the game while still giving informed reads.

@Worm is that what's going on with that last post?

NO

DR WORM knows it"s NOT BEST FOR TOWN if WORM is INNOCENT CHILI!! So WORM DIES before INTERMISSONS..

Ouch.

Sad that such a towny thought has to come from someone very likely to die.

It's an unbelievably town motivated thought.

Vedith and Ankamius I explained in 2082.

Firebringer I believe I sorted as town when reading through the early game. Probably in part for his frustration with Nancy, although I'm certain there were other reasons. I have it written down that his 310 was towny, don't remember what it was.

Dannflor is admittedly a weak townread, but I believe it came from 2552.

I scumread Taly when reading through the early game and honestly don't remember why I sorted him away as town, although I don't doubt myself at the moment.

TheBrie for reasons.

Nancy I just explained.

I believe that's all of them.

Wrt the bolded, how is Taly ever scum here?

[RadiantCowbells]

I kinda want moment/SS now but I'll probably get in trouble for it

[Nancy Drew 39]

taly/krazy

which side here are you calling scum?

If Taly is scum here, I’m nominating him for a scummie.

[Something_Smart]

for me, it's that i didnt like your self-consciousness about how you are being viewed by others

It depends on the person, but I'm pretty sure most people would wonder why upon being told they were to be the automatic first lynch.

I care about how I'm viewed because it affects my strategy. I'm going to pair differently if I think I'll survive a while than if I think I'm dead in the water. Not to mention that getting people to explain their reads on me can help me tease out who is scum pushing me...

You're thinking in black and white. Which is definitely better than having no clue, but it's not going to get you very far.

[Nancy Drew 39]

same reason last game i powerlynched to townreads because sakura hana wanted it. and iddn't really push firebringers lynch even though i knew he was scum. it just doesn't matter in the end.

honestly RC

we're both widely townread enough that worst case, we would be either intermission killed or dead at 3 pairs left

there's more than enough leeway to push all the much more scummy pairs out first

why does it matter if we're dead at 3 pairs left
we don't give the town any more equity by being alive or dead at 3 pairs left if we're not an endgame pair

because I think both of us being there would be a lot better for town morale if we push to intermission at least, even at the worst case I think we'd have a good shot at weeding out a deepwolf later if needed

Yes, please convince RC of this.

[Something_Smart]

I kinda want moment/SS now but I'll probably get in trouble for it

Well...

We need to see how strongly he townreads me. If it's not that strong, then you're taking away the potential for Moment to endgame. (Although he certainly wouldn't endgame with Gamma and it sounds like you're iffy on TheBrie, so if he's not confident enough that I'm town then he probably can't endgame at all.)

[Nancy Drew 39]

I'll leave first dance if RC promises to never sign up for another game where I'm already in the player list.

Yeah, that was it.



No, you’re not suiciding with bleeding obvtown Taly!

Wtf are you thinking here?

Why don’t we just hand scum the win?

[RadiantCowbells]

I uh kinda think he's just a wolf

He's done more AtE over the past few pages than I did this game for sure

[Firebringer]

If TheBrie is wolf Vedith/Fire probably contains 1 wolf

wut

[RadiantCowbells]

Firebringer vs. Nancy gives me a headache, which gets worse when I throw Vedith in. It looks like Vedith and Firebringier both scumread the other. Leaning more towards Vedith being town if one of them is scum

[Firebringer]

ohh okay that makes sense

[Nancy Drew 39]

I probably should have tossed that into scream into the void but whatever

I just don't want Ank thinking that me being pissed here means I actually have a stronger townread of RC when I don't, and my uncertainty just makes me even more angry.

And I don't want Nancy coming in and thanking me for trying to talk RC out when that's not even what I was doing

Honestly, you’re seem to be making things worse. Sorry.

[Something_Smart]

If TheBrie is wolf Vedith/Fire probably contains 1 wolf

By the magic of contraposition, does this mean that if we flip Vedith/Fire and it comes up T/T we can feel better about TheBrie?

[RadiantCowbells]

If TheBrie is wolf Vedith/Fire probably contains 1 wolf

By the magic of contraposition, does this mean that if we flip Vedith/Fire and it comes up T/T we can feel better about TheBrie?

Mmm

Hypothetically maybe

[DoubtingThomas]

RC solving really well i think