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Post Post #4150 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:40 pm

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i mean the wolfy game you objectively played terribly, no excuse for town losing that. no excuse for JC going down. even ignoring you voting me.
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Post Post #4151 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:40 pm

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In post 4094, Taly wrote:also im gonna be clear now (officially done tonight after this post)

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not to say i WONT evaluate critically, but it will be more difficult to remove bias at such point.


if none of you have actually clued in to my playstyle yet -
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Post Post #4152 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:41 pm

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so what SS am I supposed to be policy lynched every game so that people can trust that I'm not deep wolfing? dunno how that's ever fair to me
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Post Post #4153 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:43 pm

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In post 4149, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 4144, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 4088, RadiantCowbells wrote:i mean having it as something you want, sure

but he's been more interested for example in pairing with someone who townreads him than on what his read is on them for example

and I see very little attempt to sort on any of the recent pages and his push for me to leave dance was gross so
There’s no reason for either you or Ank to leave. I’m glad both of you finally realized that.
I mean... if RC is dead we can sheep his reads until the end of the earth. If he's alive we can't do that.
is rc's town game that good?
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Post Post #4154 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:44 pm

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In post 4104, Krazy wrote:
Gamma I didn't want to dance with you for a similar reason to why I didn't want to dance with Nancy
. We can talk about it dance 2 if you we're not dead, otherwise in post.
???
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Post Post #4155 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:44 pm

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In post 4152, RadiantCowbells wrote:so what SS am I supposed to be policy lynched every game so that people can trust that I'm not deep wolfing? dunno how that's ever fair to me
No, it's the opposite.

If you have reads that are as confident as yours seem to be this game, we can lynch you and win without any risk at all. If you're town and correct on your reads you've singlehandedly won us the game, and every person will be following exactly what you say. I hardly see how that's unfair to you.
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Post Post #4156 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:44 pm

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In post 4152, RadiantCowbells wrote:so what SS am I supposed to be policy lynched every game so that people can trust that I'm not deep wolfing? dunno how that's ever fair to me
play worse wolf games
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Post Post #4157 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:45 pm

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In post 4110, RadiantCowbells wrote:go to mafsilver mafblack is awful
I’m using sepia, I reserve silver for hydras.
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We just need to tread carefully because if you slip up around her as scum she notices and will tear your spine out and slap you to death with it. (I'm slightly scared of Nancy)
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Post Post #4158 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:45 pm

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In post 4153, DoubtingThomas wrote:is rc's town game that good?
Often. It seems to me that usually when RC implodes as town, it's because he wrongly scumread someone and not because he wrongly townread someone.

From what people have said it seems like he carried the last dance game (where he was IC), as well.
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Post Post #4159 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:46 pm

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In post 4158, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 4153, DoubtingThomas wrote:is rc's town game that good?
Often. It seems to me that usually when RC implodes as town, it's because he wrongly scumread someone and not because he wrongly townread someone.

From what people have said it seems like he carried the last dance game (where he was IC), as well.
that's a good point. i think his town reads have been accurate
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Post Post #4160 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:47 pm

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we are gonna get along so well
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Post Post #4161 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:47 pm

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pretty much my sole weakness as town is that I can't deal with being bad faith pushed and that happens to align very poorly with being a very good scum player and having people bad faith push me all over the place.
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Post Post #4162 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:48 pm

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In post 4156, DoubtingThomas wrote:
In post 4152, RadiantCowbells wrote:so what SS am I supposed to be policy lynched every game so that people can trust that I'm not deep wolfing? dunno how that's ever fair to me
play worse wolf games
Actually no, the actual answer would be "have less confident reads," because it's not a policy lynch. If you don't want to be lynched you can choose not to agree to this, but then you won't be conftown and therefore people can't just instantly trust you.

It's not a policy lynch, but it seems to be an easy path to victory in the case where you are town and correct.
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Post Post #4163 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:48 pm

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In post 4030, RadiantCowbells wrote:i kinda want gamma to just get left out cuz they're not playing anyway

of the remaining gents i don't really especially want any of them to live soo :shrug:
Yeah piss off you spam lord. You want me to play, don't make it a fucking challenge to do so. I'm working with what I've got and if you aren't happy with it change your actions so it doesn't happen again.
And I'm aware it's not all on RC but he's blaming me for it so I'm firing back in kind.
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Post Post #4164 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:49 pm

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In post 4161, RadiantCowbells wrote:pretty much my sole weakness as town is that I can't deal with being bad faith pushed and that happens to align very poorly with being a very good scum player and having people bad faith push me all over the place.
just ignore "bad faith pushes" unless you scum read them outside of that. focus on your other scum reads that was right. if you did that, i am sure we would have won
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Post Post #4165 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:50 pm

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In post 4161, RadiantCowbells wrote:pretty much my sole weakness as town is that I can't deal with being bad faith pushed and that happens to align very poorly with being a very good scum player and having people bad faith push me all over the place.
That is an unfortunate weakness, yes. And I do understand why that would be frustrating.

Just make sure to understand that I'm not pushing you. If you don't want to agree to this, then you don't have to and I won't try to get your slot killed.

But if you want people to sheep your reads... this is the easiest way. If you do agree I'll do whatever you recommend, including leaving if you want, even though I townread Thomas.
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Post Post #4166 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:51 pm

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i don't have the ability to just ignore it. i've tried.

and gamma, i'm not the one spamming lol, i'm fourth highest posts.
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Post Post #4167 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:52 pm

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I want Gamma paired because that's the path of least shenanigans. We just pair everyone and then vote no lynch straightaway, and that way there's no chance of a yolobomb.
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Post Post #4168 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:52 pm

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In post 4143, DoubtingThomas wrote:
In post 4138, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 4125, DoubtingThomas wrote:
In post 4124, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 4122, DoubtingThomas wrote:
In post 4120, Gamma Emerald wrote:I'm not pairing with DT unless he explains what makes him consider himself strong as town.
I am good at this game
It's not as important now as I'm not trying to pre-screen you, but examples?
Ok so I need to prove why I think I am good at this game?

I mean my reads have steadily improved game after game. I am getting better at finding wolves

I have mislynch rate of about like 5% in all games in my entire career as either alignment

Idk what I can say
I guess I'll take your word for it at this point but that also puts a Burden of Proficiency on you and getting me wrong doesn't help that, though I guess I can laud your efforts to reach out to change things.
i mean even if i suck ass i am not gonna say, "hey i suck at this game so when you get into a PT with me I am gonna suck so bad and bring our couple down :("

presenting confidence, even if it may be a little undeserved, is important in a game of mafia with online strangers, imo
Understandable. Though your response after my changing tune tells me you actually believe your hype at least a little.
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Post Post #4169 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:53 pm

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Well, a yolobomb would require two scum to out themselves, so we'd still be in a good spot after it happened.
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i've learned to ignore it. i was very much like you too. but somehow i learned. i feel like my game has improved tenfold.

i cannot imagine when you learn the ability to do what i do

you would become true werewolf GOD, brother
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Post Post #4171 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:54 pm

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In post 4118, Krazy wrote:
In post 4108, Gamma Emerald wrote:First I've heard of this I think?
tbh it wasn't a very good reason and I was secondguessing it around Friday night but at that point there was some other stuff going on in terms of how I felt about this game and then Taly accepted on Saturday. In retrospect I probably should have just danced with Nancy, but at the time I thought the game would be less fun that way. I was probably wrong.
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Not sure why it would be less fun though but I don’t think I need a PT to sort you but it will definitely help me sort Dann, so I think town lucked out. Yes, even with “Anklebells” :lol: - now that they’re not going to eat each other alive, it’s win-win.
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Post Post #4172 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:54 pm

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In post 4168, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 4143, DoubtingThomas wrote:
In post 4138, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 4125, DoubtingThomas wrote:
In post 4124, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 4122, DoubtingThomas wrote:
In post 4120, Gamma Emerald wrote:I'm not pairing with DT unless he explains what makes him consider himself strong as town.
I am good at this game
It's not as important now as I'm not trying to pre-screen you, but examples?
Ok so I need to prove why I think I am good at this game?

I mean my reads have steadily improved game after game. I am getting better at finding wolves

I have mislynch rate of about like 5% in all games in my entire career as either alignment

Idk what I can say
I guess I'll take your word for it at this point but that also puts a Burden of Proficiency on you and getting me wrong doesn't help that, though I guess I can laud your efforts to reach out to change things.
i mean even if i suck ass i am not gonna say, "hey i suck at this game so when you get into a PT with me I am gonna suck so bad and bring our couple down :("

presenting confidence, even if it may be a little undeserved, is important in a game of mafia with online strangers, imo
Understandable. Though your response after my changing tune tells me you actually believe your hype at least a little.
I absolutely do know I hype myself up. I do it on purpose. People who 'coached' me before pointed that out to me and told me countless times to be "less confident" with my reads

I kinda like this trait. I am actually pretty reserved in real life. I like the fact that I can be a different me in mafia, and I like to swing it around when I can.
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In post 4167, Something_Smart wrote:I want Gamma paired because that's the path of least shenanigans. We just pair everyone and then vote no lynch straightaway, and that way there's no chance of a yolobomb.
what u mean it will lead to less shenanigans?
gamma is gonna be like a mislynch option at any time.
trust me on that one.

I don't even have a townread. I just think any person paired with gamma will lead to him being on the lynch table at any time because that's just how people see him in general.
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Post Post #4174 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:55 pm

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In post 4166, RadiantCowbells wrote:i don't have the ability to just ignore it. i've tried.

and gamma, i'm not the one spamming lol, i'm fourth highest posts.
Well you're the one who wants me dead for not being active enough after all that happened. So pardon me for getting upset when you won't understand my position that I feel is completely reasonable.
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