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Post Post #4175 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:57 pm

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In post 4172, DoubtingThomas wrote:
In post 4168, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 4143, DoubtingThomas wrote:
In post 4138, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 4125, DoubtingThomas wrote:
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In post 4120, Gamma Emerald wrote:I'm not pairing with DT unless he explains what makes him consider himself strong as town.
I am good at this game
It's not as important now as I'm not trying to pre-screen you, but examples?
Ok so I need to prove why I think I am good at this game?

I mean my reads have steadily improved game after game. I am getting better at finding wolves

I have mislynch rate of about like 5% in all games in my entire career as either alignment

Idk what I can say
I guess I'll take your word for it at this point but that also puts a Burden of Proficiency on you and getting me wrong doesn't help that, though I guess I can laud your efforts to reach out to change things.
i mean even if i suck ass i am not gonna say, "hey i suck at this game so when you get into a PT with me I am gonna suck so bad and bring our couple down :("

presenting confidence, even if it may be a little undeserved, is important in a game of mafia with online strangers, imo
Understandable. Though your response after my changing tune tells me you actually believe your hype at least a little.
I absolutely do know I hype myself up. I do it on purpose. People who 'coached' me before pointed that out to me and told me countless times to be "less confident" with my reads

I kinda like this trait. I am actually pretty reserved in real life. I like the fact that I can be a different me in mafia, and I like to swing it around when I can.
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Post Post #4176 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:57 pm

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I mean, there's no chance of scum-Vedith going out in a blaze of glory because the lynch threshold will be 9.

Gamma's pair definitely gets lynched in second dance, probably first, but by that point we're out of yolobomb territory.
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Post Post #4177 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:57 pm

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In post 4169, Something_Smart wrote:Well, a yolobomb would require two scum to out themselves, so we'd still be in a good spot after it happened.
what's yolobomb?

i also agree that gamma should be paried. How many coins does she have? Also there are 3? gentlemen left? 2? I am not sure if 3, 4 people dying pre-vote stage is a good idea.

I scum read gamma, but she can always be lynched in the future. also wouldnt mind her spewing if she were a wolf in the voting stages
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Post Post #4178 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:58 pm

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In post 4176, Something_Smart wrote:I mean, there's no chance of scum-Vedith going out in a blaze of glory because the lynch threshold will be 9.

Gamma's pair definitely gets lynched in second dance, probably first, but by that point we're out of yolobomb territory.
I don't understand ur point if u think they get lynched either way and u somehow think them getting lynched later is less of a yolobomb than during the first dance exactly? I am confused on what is going through ur mind, what am i missing?
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Post Post #4179 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:00 pm

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In post 4153, DoubtingThomas wrote:
In post 4149, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 4144, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 4088, RadiantCowbells wrote:i mean having it as something you want, sure

but he's been more interested for example in pairing with someone who townreads him than on what his read is on them for example

and I see very little attempt to sort on any of the recent pages and his push for me to leave dance was gross so
There’s no reason for either you or Ank to leave. I’m glad both of you finally realized that.
I mean... if RC is dead we can sheep his reads until the end of the earth. If he's alive we can't do that.
is rc's town game that good?
RC is more valuable to the game alive then dead, so I don’t know why SS is saying this.
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Post Post #4180 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:00 pm

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In post 4177, DoubtingThomas wrote:what's yolobomb?
Scum gentleman using a ton of votes to lynch a widely townread pair.
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Post Post #4181 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:00 pm

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In post 4179, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:RC is more valuable to the game alive then dead, so I don’t know why SS is saying this.
Not if he has 100% townreads on two town pairs.
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Post Post #4182 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:00 pm

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the chances of scum using yolo bomb to me seems low but idk what is going through their mind.
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Post Post #4183 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:02 pm

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i didn't say 100%

i said near 100%
2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.
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Post Post #4184 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:02 pm

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In post 4155, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 4152, RadiantCowbells wrote:so what SS am I supposed to be policy lynched every game so that people can trust that I'm not deep wolfing? dunno how that's ever fair to me
No, it's the opposite.

If you have reads that are as confident as yours seem to be this game,
we can lynch you and win without any risk at all
. If you're town and correct on your reads you've singlehandedly won us the game, and every person will be following exactly what you say. I hardly see how that's unfair to you.
Dafuq? Why tf would we want to lynch RC here?
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Post Post #4185 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:02 pm

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u know who i said literally 100%? chibibear / brian skies
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Post Post #4186 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:02 pm

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yolobomb sounds more like something a townie would do than scum but w/e

also not sure why this changes anything with gamma being partnered or not. unles that changes how effective a yolobomb would be.
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Post Post #4187 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:03 pm

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In post 4178, Firebringer wrote:
In post 4176, Something_Smart wrote:I mean, there's no chance of scum-Vedith going out in a blaze of glory because the lynch threshold will be 9.

Gamma's pair definitely gets lynched in second dance, probably first, but by that point we're out of yolobomb territory.
I don't understand ur point if u think they get lynched either way and u somehow think them getting lynched later is less of a yolobomb than during the first dance exactly? I am confused on what is going through ur mind, what am i missing?
I'm talking about if Vedith is scum and, knowing that town would win through PoE otherwise, hammers a widely townread pair like Moment/Brie. That's a lynch on a pair that otherwise would never have been lynched, which is a huge blow to town.
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Post Post #4188 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:03 pm

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so how does the voting work?

there's 1-8 coins so maj is just 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8 = 36, 19/36 votes? is that how it works

SS, did you out how many coins you had
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Post Post #4189 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:04 pm

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it takes 9 votes so 2 people would be scumclaiming in that process
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Post Post #4190 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:05 pm

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In post 4183, RadiantCowbells wrote:i didn't say 100%

i said near 100%
I mean, yeah, you shouldn't ever be literally 100%.

This is why I said you could make this decision... you can let us know if you ever get confident enough.
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Post Post #4191 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:05 pm

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In post 4187, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 4178, Firebringer wrote:
In post 4176, Something_Smart wrote:I mean, there's no chance of scum-Vedith going out in a blaze of glory because the lynch threshold will be 9.

Gamma's pair definitely gets lynched in second dance, probably first, but by that point we're out of yolobomb territory.
I don't understand ur point if u think they get lynched either way and u somehow think them getting lynched later is less of a yolobomb than during the first dance exactly? I am confused on what is going through ur mind, what am i missing?
I'm talking about if Vedith is scum and, knowing that town would win through PoE otherwise, hammers a widely townread pair like Moment/Brie. That's a lynch on a pair that otherwise would never have been lynched, which is a huge blow to town.
you know I could leave the dance as soon as I see one vote down to not even give vedith the chance, right?
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Post Post #4192 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:05 pm

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i think playing the game entirely around town!RC's reads is kinda dumb no matter how good of a player they are
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Post Post #4193 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:05 pm

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In post 4188, DoubtingThomas wrote:so how does the voting work?

there's 1-8 coins so maj is just 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8 = 36, 19/36 votes? is that how it works

SS, did you out how many coins you had
No it's based on living numbers. So with 14 alive its 8 to lynch meaning Vedith!scum can just kill a pair.
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Post Post #4194 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:06 pm

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In post 4191, Firebringer wrote:
In post 4187, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 4178, Firebringer wrote:
In post 4176, Something_Smart wrote:I mean, there's no chance of scum-Vedith going out in a blaze of glory because the lynch threshold will be 9.

Gamma's pair definitely gets lynched in second dance, probably first, but by that point we're out of yolobomb territory.
I don't understand ur point if u think they get lynched either way and u somehow think them getting lynched later is less of a yolobomb than during the first dance exactly? I am confused on what is going through ur mind, what am i missing?
I'm talking about if Vedith is scum and, knowing that town would win through PoE otherwise, hammers a widely townread pair like Moment/Brie. That's a lynch on a pair that otherwise would never have been lynched, which is a huge blow to town.
you know I could leave the dance as soon as I see one vote down to not even give vedith the chance, right?
leave the dance means killing urself?
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Post Post #4195 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:06 pm

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In post 4193, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 4188, DoubtingThomas wrote:so how does the voting work?

there's 1-8 coins so maj is just 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8 = 36, 19/36 votes? is that how it works

SS, did you out how many coins you had
No it's based on living numbers. So with 14 alive its 8 to lynch meaning Vedith!scum can just kill a pair.
wtf thats cray
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Post Post #4196 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:06 pm

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In post 4194, DoubtingThomas wrote:leave the dance means killing urself?
ive literally 0 problems with this.
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Post Post #4197 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:07 pm

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In post 4188, DoubtingThomas wrote:SS, did you out how many coins you had
1. You're a poor boi :(

At least I know you're not a gold digger though :lol:
In post 4189, RadiantCowbells wrote:it takes 9 votes so 2 people would be scumclaiming in that process
Exactly. This is why I want Gamma to pair.
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Post Post #4198 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:07 pm

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In post 4167, Something_Smart wrote:I want Gamma paired because that's the path of least shenanigans. We just pair everyone and then vote no lynch straightaway, and that way there's no chance of a yolobomb.
Well, Urist seems the most likely since I haven’t seen Allo since Brie turned him down. So I don’t know if he just gave up on the game?
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Post Post #4199 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:08 pm

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In post 4197, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 4188, DoubtingThomas wrote:SS, did you out how many coins you had
1. You're a poor boi :(

At least I know you're not a gold digger though :lol:
In post 4189, RadiantCowbells wrote:it takes 9 votes so 2 people would be scumclaiming in that process
Exactly. This is why I want Gamma to pair.
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