Merchant's Daughter [Endgame]

[Dannflor]

I’m sorry but when Krazy went off on me, that just was too much. My ban ended a month ago but I was too outraged by the unfairness of it all because another player - not DT, did things far worse than me but never got into any trouble whatsoever. Sorry, I don’t mean to clog up the thread with this. I’m just glad we don’t have to deal with his garbage anymore.

I was probably overreacting. :/

You don't have to apologize. Your emotional reactions are valid regardless of the game at hand or whatever else. I do echo what Taly said about taking a break if you need though, take care of yourself <3

[TheBrie]

Moment did give me a bit of basic logical analysis before he disappeared again, and basic reds, but he also said he'd not really read the recent game. Since he's not around, I'm going to share it.

He looked at the DT/SS wagon. Only ones not voting at all are him (town he says), SS (flipped town), Pvt (Who he said he town read, didn't seem to be aware he;d been ICed.) From that it's clear scum must have bussed. Also said he townread the last two on the wagon (Dr. Worm, and Me,), so he doesn't think scum hopped on last minute, so the push may have come from scum. And his guess for scum on the wagon without actually reading things is Krazy.

Now that PB has flipped, either there was two scum on the DT lynch, or Moment is scum.
And I like the DT was getting himself lynched to protect someone theory. Also possibly to allow a partner to get town cred by doing it. So who?

[Nancy Drew 39]

VOTE: Gamma

I wanted to wait for discussion from Moment/Pvt etc. but I'm not confident they're active enough for that to be worth waiting for.

We need to gamesolve and keep our lovers feeling the love

<3 <3 <3

I think this game is definitely solvable, and I feel like

Gamma

is the best person for a partner flip. Upon his flip, I think we'll have a much better picture of

Moment+TheBrie

.

Okay, my vote is on Gamma, unofficially. I guess Gamma has to be scum, since there can only be at most only one in Brie/moment unless Gamma flips green, so I can see where you’re going with this.

I’m hoping that’s the case anyway.

[Dannflor]

And I like the DT was getting himself lynched to protect someone theory.

Also possibly to allow a partner to get town cred by doing it. So who?

I mean, me or Krazy would be the answer to this. We were the two that actually cased him and were probably the driving factors in his lynch if you're only looking at a hard bus. I'm not entertaining Krazy!scum unless I have to though. I think I have enough solid reasons to town read him and factors like these mostly made up of WIFOM seem more likely to exist to disrupt town cohesion rather than being borne out of reality.

Otherwise, Gamma was also on the wagon for incredulous reasons as Taly and I have already pointed out.

[Nancy Drew 39]

I’m sorry but when Krazy went off on me, that just was too much. My ban ended a month ago but I was too outraged by the unfairness of it all because another player - not DT, did things far worse than me but never got into any trouble whatsoever. Sorry, I don’t mean to clog up the thread with this. I’m just glad we don’t have to deal with his garbage anymore.

I was probably overreacting. :/

You don't have to apologize. Your emotional reactions are valid regardless of the game at hand or whatever else. I do echo what Taly said about taking a break if you need though, take care of yourself <3

Thanks. <3 Taly’s adorable kitty pics are helping a lot. Sometimes, I just take Mafia way too seriously and I need to stop doing that.

[Dannflor]

Pvt (Who he said he town read, didn't seem to be aware he;d been ICed.)

I wonder if this can be considered AI at all considering Moment's involvement in this game

[Taly]

Moment did give me a bit of basic logical analysis before he disappeared again, and basic reds, but he also said he'd not really read the recent game. Since he's not around, I'm going to share it.

He looked at the DT/SS wagon. Only ones not voting at all are him (town he says), SS (flipped town), Pvt (Who he said he town read, didn't seem to be aware he;d been ICed.) From that it's clear scum must have bussed. Also said he townread the last two on the wagon (Dr. Worm, and Me,), so he doesn't think scum hopped on last minute, so the push may have come from scum. And his guess for scum on the wagon without actually reading things is Krazy.

Now that PB has flipped, either there was two scum on the DT lynch, or Moment is scum.
And I like the DT was getting himself lynched to protect someone theory. Also possibly to allow a partner to get town cred by doing it. So who?

Not sure, but in the very likely event

Gamma

flips scum, we'll have the CLEAREST view possible to see who the 3rd scum is based off gamelong interactions.

ISO grouping would be faaar more effective.

If this lynch occurs now or tomorrow, then we still have at least 3 days to sort this out. That gives a lot of discussion power to town.

I need to study Math, so I don't promise I'll post again tonight

<3

Don't take this game too seriously guys.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Pvt (Who he said he town read, didn't seem to be aware he;d been ICed.)

I wonder if this can be considered AI at all considering Moment's involvement in this game

Well, it’s kind of like what’s the point of townreading the IC for any reasons. It’s funny anyway.

[Dannflor]

Well, it’s kind of like what’s the point of townreading the IC for any reasons. It’s funny anyway.

I just mean I think scum would be more likely to be aware of who the IC was, but considering Moment's activity I'm unsure

[Nancy Drew 39]

Well, it’s kind of like what’s the point of townreading the IC for any reasons. It’s funny anyway.

I just mean I think scum would be more likely to be aware of who the IC was, but considering Moment's activity I'm unsure

It would depend on when they had that convo, because it was the very first thing FG mentioned after Ank/RC flips.

[Gamma Emerald]

Hi I see that I have 3 votes on me rn, could we not before I can present my case and stuff? I've found all the quotes I need so it'll probably be done in 18 hours tops. Also let's give Pvt a chance to give some reads before we send him off? I don't really feel bothered by being voted but I feel like no one realizes the impact of removing the IC before they've had a chance to give reads

[PvtUrist]

hmm

[Gamma Emerald]

Speak of the devil.

[PvtUrist]

The_Bread is town

Gamma is town

Moment is lynch bait

there's 2 wolves

[FakeGod]

VoteCount 2.9

Krazy - Taly [0] -
Dannflor - Nancy Drew 39 [0] -
Moment - TheBrie [0] -
PvtUrist - Gamma Emerald [2] - Taly, Dannflor

Not Voting [6]

- Krazy, Nancy Drew 39, Moment, TheBrie, PvtUrist, Gamma Emerald

With 8 alive it takes 5 votes to lynch

.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2019-02-24 01:00:00)

[Dannflor]

The_Bread is town

Gamma is town

Moment is lynch bait

there's 2 wolves

Can you explain your Brie and Gamma reads? It's really important that you do at this stage

[PvtUrist]

1) Call it consistent tone and not agenda driven, which are my reads on the current "lynch-pool", and mostly not the case on the "conf-town pool".

2) This Moment!TB --> Urist!Gamma lynch seems way too

easy

, more importantly,

there's next to no resistance

, which lines up with wolves theory.

I'm not going deeper into reads, because;

a) not something I'm capable with within these players, and

b) the 2 scum gon shit on my reads anyway

[PvtUrist]

Krazy

-

Taly

Dannflor

-

Nancy Drew 39

Moment

-

TheBrie

PvtUrist

-

Gamma Emerald

Calling the current flips all gon be green

[PvtUrist]

Note that the current lynch reasons are "less town-read", not "scummier", which could be said for about the entire game. I don't believe that's a coincidence.

[Taly]

Am I scum because I've been universally townread most of the game - disregarding the multiple times I've been weary of pocketed, looked deeper into why I'm being townread to see scum-motivation, and consistently asking why people find me so towny?

Because when

Krazy

inquired about your scumread of me, you replied with that you tunnel non-conf

"locktown"

and the post about

"beef with me"

was so vague that I wouldn't have figured out you were speaking directly about me had you not have pretense-d your post like that.

I can give post links if you think I'm pulling the

"I'm resisting the universal townread"

notion in my first question out of my ass.

[Taly]

2) This Moment!TB --> Urist!Gamma lynch seems way too easy, more importantly, there's next to no resistance, which lines up with wolves theory.

If you're saying

Gamma+Your

lynch is too easy, then what do you think about

Moment+TB

?

There was virtually no resistance there until I countered the idea that scum was on it based on

DT's

flip.

[Taly]

Note that the current lynch reasons are "less town-read", not "scummier", which could be said for about the entire game. I don't believe that's a coincidence.

I hard scumread

Gamma

. My vote on him isn't

"I think he might be town but PoE is leading me to..."

[Taly]

X_X her*

fuck I'm bad at pronouns when my mind is in gamesolve mode.

[Gamma Emerald]

Am I scum because I've been universally townread most of the game - disregarding the multiple times I've been weary of pocketed, looked deeper into why I'm being townread to see scum-motivation, and consistently asking why people find me so towny?

Because when

Krazy

inquired about your scumread of me, you replied with that you tunnel non-conf

"locktown"

and the post about

"beef with me"

was so vague that I wouldn't have figured out you were speaking directly about me had you not have pretense-d your post like that.

I can give post links if you think I'm pulling the

"I'm resisting the universal townread"

notion in my first question out of my ass.

Hrm...

[PvtUrist]

Are you trying to shame my scumread away from you? Because #5244 feels oddly emotionally manipulative.

-"universally townread"
- "disregarding the multiple times I've been weary of pocketed"
- "looked deeper into why I'm being townread to see scum-motivation"
- "consistently asking why people find me so towny"

-probably incorrect into rose tinted glasses
- can't be pocket if you're scam
- scam can do this
- scam should (did) do this

I'm not sure what you're intention is of on your second chapter. Do you imply that it's incorrect? The method is incorrect?