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[Vedith]

Yikes.

[Creature]

He's scum because meta.

Then I posted and am town by meta.

[Creature]

You know what will make it easier? Lynching one of the strongest townies that the site has because you can't read him.

Hi.

[Creature]

So what has creature done that is scummy other than not being active?

Nothing, I suppose scum can't drop their agenda now.

[Creature]

CultOfAthena has been prodded.

Real scum lurking.

[Yachting n Socializing]

I will admit CoA is dropping, but you've barely given any reads or substantial comments. Town Ceeature was much better than this.

[DrDolittle]

Holy fuck in what universe would you guys be sitting around shit talking any other player for a 3 year old game? The answer is that you wouldn't.

Dude, I'm just pulling an example for bird to show that IC sometimes gets a lot of shit here here, and not to give in if others call your reads shit because *even* you are fallible. If anything you should take it as a compliment. And yeah sorry its 3 years ago. I've only been IC and shat on so badly once, so it's memorable. Didn't mean to attack you in anyway at all.

With that said, I know can be seen as an incredibly scummy thing to do, in that I could be seen as white knighting IC and soft-encouraging him to continue bad reads, so I figured I should lay this out early rather than later before reads get more concrete and things might get more out of hand.

[DrDolittle]

Creature how many games are you in rn (if that doesn't violate the rules)

[Creature]

you've barely given any reads or substantial comments.

This is a lie.

[Morality]

@bird

Would anyone be interested in a tasty yellow or cowbell wagon

Please when you end up never getting shot as conftown realize that it's because of your reads and start listening to other people's

this seems to be familiar https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... start=2475 (BBT flipped town later)

just enjoy the game and continue doing your reads or whatever even if other people call you bad. I really regretted replacing out of that 1685 as IC (it was my only voluntary replace out) and I think I would have done better than the replace-in just by virtue of being more informed of what's going on.

Oh boon mod'ed that game too!

damn!! We be going back to BT2!!! We’re in our 10th BooneyToonz game now. Oh how it’s evolved. Didn’t have much time to catch up, and was just skimming and saw this. I’ll try and catch up after showering.

[Morality]

RC, you aren’t getting Policied. I’m in this game, why would I ever let a policy on you go through in this scenario?

[Yachting n Socializing]

you've barely given any reads or substantial comments.

This is a lie.

Show me what reads you've posted.

[Creature]

Spoiler: Enjoy

They were Shoshin, for pointing the L-1

Shoshin:
1. Shoshin has only 37 posts, so that's a minus.
2. Started with a naked vote, another minus.
3. Progression on RC looks fake, another minus.
4. Next five posts are nothing interesting, another minus.
5. Three naked votes in a row, doesn't mean shit.
6. 287 looks bleh, another minus.
7. Jumped too early on the hypothesis I'm town, another minus.
8. I got tired reading her posts, another minus (but NAI this time).

and CoA, because of his vote on himself.

CultOfAthena:
1. Only 16 posts, a minus obv.
2. 380 is a tryhard, another minus.
3. 382 is ???
4. I like 386, that's a plus.
5. I got tired here too.

First

Why not both?

Town.

I’m an ascetic Miller.

One of those are true.

Town

hi shoshin
hi coa

dance for me

VOTE: RadiantCowbells

Good. Radiant's obviously town.

VOTE: Morality

???

I’m an ascetic Miller.

One of those are true.

are we policy lynching this today, or day before lylo?

VOTE: Morality

Bad

Should be ashamed

RCEnigma and Vedith lean scum. Morality lean scum + needs to die, so more votes here please

Still bad

4 posts and 8 posts without voting is gross.

Who's alt is RCEnigma?

lol this

Three of these guys are scum that means.
YellowSnow
Creature
Vorkuta
Boats n Hoes
roomy
Tarkus

lmao no

Wow I haven't posted and I'm already being scumread. A lot of Pages for me To read.

VOTE: yellowsnow

VOTE: YellowSnow

YellowSnow
RCEnigma
Morality
Tarukus
Boats N Hoes
Vedith
Shoshin
CultOfAthena
Aurathebirb
Vorkuta

roomy
Creature
RadiantCowbells

Nice try

Better than other lists

How is Aura conftown?

My bad didn't see mod cofirm.

Town derp?

If Marality and Boats are scum, and the third scum is roomy or Vedith that puts town in a pretty good spot.

I can see this.

It's probably Morality Snow Creature.

Nope

RC I'll chill on yellow for today and let you do your thing. If I'm right you'll see it eventually. You're not hitting scum if you lynch me though and we should do roomy or creature instead.
UNVOTE:

Bad

VOTE: Creature
He has been online.

Probtown post

Hi Creature I'm confirmed town I think \o/

Why?

A whole page of creature-posting. What is there not to like?

The lack of attention to it.

Okay DrDo you're hardtown

Actually I think shoshin RCE is s/s.

Could see.

How do we know creature is scum?

False confidence.

that pool just looks like you put 5 names together

This.

In the mean time if you can all also rate each other on where you think Scum would most likely be in those names (including me) that will help.

Alrighty, sweet dreams
UNVOTE:

Creature
DDL
Vedith
RCE
CoA
Me

Bad.

So what has creature done that is scummy other than not being active?

Nothing, I suppose scum can't drop their agenda now.

CultOfAthena has been prodded.

Real scum lurking.

[Morality]

What's shoshin town meta look like? Does she just go around asking questions but never follows up?

No clue. This looks like her scum game to me, though. She did all this stuff in the scum game of hers I read.

[Morality]

I’ve never really played with Shoshin actively, though.

[Morality]

i meta'd shoshin's normals briefly, and her play is pretty curt compared to previous (both scum and town), which might indicate a lack of time these days. I didn't find anything particularly salient, other than town-shoshin is more likely to follow up with unanswered q's (sample size 2), and scum-shoshin is more interested in trivialities (sample size 1). Given this, I think I more scum lean shoshin this game due to meta?

Perhaps, but it isnt where we are lynching today.

Radiant should be nicer about that too though. I have seen much worse ICs than Aura is playing, depending how flips go of course. At least hes actually following along and not apathetic due to the shit role IC is.

I could totally get behind a Shoshin. Why is “this isn’t where we’re lynching.” Even a thing that’s said here on Day 1.

[Morality]

Creature is not in his scum meta, FYI. I already said stuff about it before, but Creatures not as one dimensional as people are pushing him to be. Even though he’s not in his scum meta, he could still be scum, and vice versa.

I’m not getting town vibes from him at all, and I think he’s doing a lot of stuff just for the sake of trying to get town read, but the pressure on him is what gives me some pause.

[Morality]

I can see both scum and town alike getting aggravated with Boats, though. That means I am town reading Boats.

[RadiantCowbells]

I think that a lot of you fail to understand what his scum meta actually is

[Creature]

I think that a lot of you fail to understand what his scum meta actually is

I'm afraid you're among that group.

[Creature]

I've been busy mostly because of an offsite 12/12 game.

[Morality]

I think that a lot of you fail to understand what his scum meta actually is

I’ve been scum with him and played against scum him multiple times. He doesn’t do crap as scum until he has to, and even then sometimes he doesn’t even.

To be fair, I do agree he DID fit his scum meta here with that description, but like I said, he isn’t a one dimensional player.

[Morality]

I’m also not actively fighting his lynch, tbh. So I don’t know why i’m arguing or defending him.

I have no read on Creature and he shall forever be my mason buddy in early game.

I’ve told myself I’m not allowed to have a real reason on Creature early game.

[Creature]

RC says nothing but "this is his scum meta", the activity tell argument has been disproven and there are still players wanting to take him seriously?

[Creature]

I believe my push won't just provide scum a mislynch, but will also provide town fighting each other tomorrow hence why it's better to cast the chaos being on me today.