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Post Post #1100 (ISO) » Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:47 am

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In post 1097, Creature wrote:
In post 1008, RadiantCowbells wrote:My ability to aid town wincon from a position of being heavily scumread is negligible.
Well, that explains your shitty scumread on me.
My scumread was perfectly valid given your awful opener.
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Post Post #1101 (ISO) » Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:48 am

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In post 1014, RadiantCowbells wrote:Town creature doesn't appeal to me to townread him
I don't think I did. I just pretended to be scum near you.
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Post Post #1102 (ISO) » Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:48 am

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So speaking of lynching Tarkus...
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Post Post #1103 (ISO) » Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:49 am

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In post 1101, Creature wrote:
In post 1014, RadiantCowbells wrote:Town creature doesn't appeal to me to townread him
I don't think I did. I just pretended to be scum near you.
Ok so why would you do that?

You're essentially claiming you played your scumgame then you wolfread me fo falling you scum for it, no?
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Post Post #1104 (ISO) » Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:50 am

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Creature, why are you scumreading me?
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Post Post #1105 (ISO) » Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:50 am

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In post 1020, Yachting n Socializing wrote:You're right, scum don't hop on easy wagons all the time like the Creature one, I just figure new scum is more likely to.
My experience from last scumgame (offsite) suggests scum first develops a progression before moving to someone (such "I would agree with X and Y wagons" then *votes X*).
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Post Post #1106 (ISO) » Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:50 am

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In post 1020, Yachting n Socializing wrote:I am a Psych graduate student
I'm an engineer. Trust me!
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Post Post #1107 (ISO) » Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:50 am

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In post 1086, Shoshin wrote:I was scumreading Boats because his analysis is so mechanical, almost reminds me of someone like Mathblade, but I'm willing to let that go for the moment.
I'm a bit offended, my play seems like Mathblade?
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Post Post #1108 (ISO) » Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:51 am

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In post 1024, DrDolittle wrote:CoA is the one I don't get.
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Post Post #1109 (ISO) » Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:51 am

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In post 1094, Shoshin wrote:You haven't shown me any examples of UNANSWERED questions that I DID NOT FOLLOW UP ON AS SCUM. Please prove that there was a MEANINGFUL difference between my TOWN/SCUM games, which is what you claimed earlier.
yawn. posting in caps doesn't make you right.
2042 -you have post 463 asking to answer your q
2012 - you have 214, 589 and 650
2010 - nothing.
This game, nothing. And you posted so many questions, I doubt everyone has answered everything.
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Post Post #1110 (ISO) » Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:52 am

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In post 1107, Yachting n Socializing wrote:
In post 1086, Shoshin wrote:I was scumreading Boats because his analysis is so mechanical, almost reminds me of someone like Mathblade, but I'm willing to let that go for the moment.
I'm a bit offended, my play seems like Mathblade?
Not tonally, but in terms of how mechanical your analysis is, yes.
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Post Post #1111 (ISO) » Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:53 am

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re Shoshin for a player with so little content I would expect more specific reads when they do post. COA said she's a good player and she hasn't played like it yet.
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Post Post #1112 (ISO) » Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:54 am

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In post 1110, Shoshin wrote:
In post 1107, Yachting n Socializing wrote:
In post 1086, Shoshin wrote:I was scumreading Boats because his analysis is so mechanical, almost reminds me of someone like Mathblade, but I'm willing to let that go for the moment.
I'm a bit offended, my play seems like Mathblade?
Not tonally, but in terms of how mechanical your analysis is, yes.
I dont think it is mechanical? I havent talked about setup spec at all this game.
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Post Post #1113 (ISO) » Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:54 am

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In post 1072, RadiantCowbells wrote:If Shoshin is town she will force scum to nightkill her before endgame

We never Lynch her D1 ever
Wanna go Tarkus then?
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Post Post #1114 (ISO) » Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:54 am

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CoA is busy IRL and I agree with most of her reads.
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Post Post #1115 (ISO) » Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:55 am

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In post 1111, YellowSnow wrote:re Shoshin for a player with so little content I would expect more specific reads when they do post. COA said she's a good player and she hasn't played like it yet.
You don't know if I've played bad yet because you don't know if my reads are right/wrong? Or do you KNOW that they're wrong?
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Post Post #1116 (ISO) » Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:55 am

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In post 1082, RadiantCowbells wrote:Creature if you're town just stop
Stop what?
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Post Post #1117 (ISO) » Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:55 am

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In post 1113, Creature wrote:
In post 1072, RadiantCowbells wrote:If Shoshin is town she will force scum to nightkill her before endgame

We never Lynch her D1 ever
Wanna go Tarkus then?
Tarkus is my second strongest scumread over DDL right now.

I am mostly down for it unless Shoshin or CoA object.
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Post Post #1118 (ISO) » Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:55 am

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In post 1112, Yachting n Socializing wrote:
In post 1110, Shoshin wrote:
In post 1107, Yachting n Socializing wrote:
In post 1086, Shoshin wrote:I was scumreading Boats because his analysis is so mechanical, almost reminds me of someone like Mathblade, but I'm willing to let that go for the moment.
I'm a bit offended, my play seems like Mathblade?
Not tonally, but in terms of how mechanical your analysis is, yes.
I dont think it is mechanical? I havent talked about setup spec at all this game.
That's not how I'm using the word "mechanical."
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Post Post #1119 (ISO) » Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:56 am

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In post 1109, DrDolittle wrote:This game, nothing. And you posted so many questions, I doubt everyone has answered everything.
since I need to do all the work anyways, an example is when you asked RCE what's his thoughts on me. RCE never responded, and you never followed up.
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Post Post #1120 (ISO) » Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:56 am

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In post 1118, Shoshin wrote:
In post 1112, Yachting n Socializing wrote:
In post 1110, Shoshin wrote:
In post 1107, Yachting n Socializing wrote:
In post 1086, Shoshin wrote:I was scumreading Boats because his analysis is so mechanical, almost reminds me of someone like Mathblade, but I'm willing to let that go for the moment.
I'm a bit offended, my play seems like Mathblade?
Not tonally, but in terms of how mechanical your analysis is, yes.
I dont think it is mechanical? I havent talked about setup spec at all this game.
That's not how I'm using the word "mechanical."
ok then idgi explain please
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Post Post #1121 (ISO) » Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:57 am

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In post 1086, Shoshin wrote:This is where I'm at on this game. Aura, Vorkuta, Enigma, Radiant, and COA are my strongest townreads. I won't consider lynching here unless everyone else is dead. And I think there's reasons to scumread every other player in the game.

I'm trusting Radiant that Boats/Snow is town, at least for today. I was scumreading Boats because his analysis is so mechanical, almost reminds me of someone like Mathblade, but I'm willing to let that go for the moment. I had Snow as strong town earlier but after reading through one of his scum games I don't feel comfortable with that read anymore. I think the way he quickly changed course on his reads was opportunistic in precisely the same ways he was opportunistic as scum, plus I think his forgetfulness about Aura isn't as towny as I thought on first impression.

I have Tarkus as null. He feels less scummy than his play in one of his scum games, but I need to check his town games because he's still lurking here in ways that resemble scum.

Vedith is playing like trollish scum. I have nothing to say on this because despite scumreading his slot, I've been told his is just how he plays by Radiant. So, again, I'm willing to leave this slow alone for today.

I scumread Morality from the start of the game. I thought he was trying too hard in the early parts of the game, cluttering the game with tons of pointless posts, and he hasn't actually made any attempt to scumhunt. His recent posts trying to cast me as scum aren't great either, especially since he seems to be doing the typical scum thing of ignoring large aspects of what I'm doing so that he can make me look scummy. Radiant agrees with this read, so Morality is up for lynching as far as I'm concerned.

roomy gave me strong vibes. I thought the fact that he replaced out after just a small amount of bickering from two players felt fake, especially since it didn't even involve him. DDL's play has been shit. His meta on me is crap. His attempt to scumread both me and Enigma is based entirely on dumb details that have nothing to do with alignment (e.g. his notion that haven't been following up on things when I'm actually following up on everthing, just not necessarily shitting the thread up with all my thoughts). I think he's scumreading me and Enigma based on associative tells rather than actual scumhunting (e.g. me and Enigma are townreading each other, so it seems like we're a team, even though there's actaully really good reasons for each of us to be townreadig each other).

Creature lurked out the first parts of the game, then entered the game posting lots of crap, superficial and shitty scumread on me that he should know better than to hold, especially after Starcraft Mafia, so who knows? I don't feel like he's been making a fair attempt at trying to read me, at least in the ways he usually will do. I also think Creature usually makes more of an attempt to fairly read lower post count players like myself, so the fact that he isn't doing that here is very concerning. He's probably scum.

If I had to guess a scumteam, I'd guess Creature, DDL, Morality (coincidence that they're all scumreading me?), and if those are wrong, it's Vedith with maybe Boats/Snow/Tarkus.


I'm gonna say this is terribad, agenda-driven and hopefully RC is right about Shoshin being fearkilled pretty early here if she's town.
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Post Post #1122 (ISO) » Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:57 am

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In post 1093, YellowSnow wrote:Did Shoshin just list 7 of 13 players as scum?
Yeah, I think she was talking about the 10-members scumteam.
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Post Post #1123 (ISO) » Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:57 am

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In post 1121, Creature wrote:I'm gonna say this is terribad, agenda-driven and hopefully RC is right about Shoshin being fearkilled pretty early here if she's town.
This is a bad opinion
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Post Post #1124 (ISO) » Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:58 am

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In post 1098, YellowSnow wrote:That seems pretty fancy to me.
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