Mini 2059: Secrets of the Anuket Topaz [Over]

[northsidegal]

Votecount 1.2

NotMySpamAccount (4):

u r a person 2 5, tris 62, tictac 67, Brigitte 144

skitter30 (2):

Flubbernugget 11, Chara 69

Enter (2):

xRECKONERx 82, skitter30 105

u r a person 2 (1):

NotMySpamAccount 121

Brigitte (1):

Lady Angel 40

tris (1):

Enter 55

Not voting (2):

Nimueh, Ankamius

With 13 alive, it’s 7 to lynch. The Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2019-03-08 00:58:59).

[NotMySpamAccount]

This is scum NMSA.

Go read his first like 5 posts in 1915 and 1917 and I think it will be pretty clear to anyone here.

I'm voting urap, your scumpartner, because he seemed scummier earlier.

This is still posturing.

These are scum, they're piling on to me because I don't have enough of a meta to easily defend my play.

Pedit:

This isn't someone with a year's worth of games thinking about their meta. They're still finding their play style, and this is an obvious evolution of their scum game, but a serious stretch from their town game.

Still finding my playstyle, exactly. I don't really like my townplay so far, except the fakehammer in 1917. I fail to see how it's an obvious evolution of my scumplay though.

Btw if no one knows what I mean by posturing. Posturing is an act. It is when people pretend to make themselves into something they aren't. You could be posturing with a overinflated case. You could be posturing about your confidence level. The act itself doesn't mean scum. But when all a person is doing is posturing. I go "why is that person just putting up an act the whole time?"

I only have two games completed on here, I'm still making my playstyle up as I go along.

Pedit 2:

This isn't someone with a year's worth of games thinking about their meta. They're still finding their play style, and this is an obvious evolution of their scum game, but a serious stretch from their town game.

I don't know of this persons meta. But I believe you when you say this isn't how they normally play.

Why do you believe urap and not me?

[skitter30]

Playing similarly to what I've seen town!skitter play before.

in what way?
also what's prompting your new style?

[skitter30]

I'm voting urap, your scumpartner, because he seemed scummier earlier.

eli5 why urap was scummy earlier

[u r a person 2]

It would be easier and more compelling for people to just go read like 10 posts but

In 1915 NMSA came in with an act. They played up the whole newbie thing (they have some outside experience), going so far as to claim VT in their first post saying "It's okay to say this, right?"

In 1917 they were town and they had a far less awkward, far breezier tone. There was zero posturing. Even under pressure and a decent way into the game they stood firm on not having any reads.

Here we once again have an act. It reads just as false as 1915, just with a different shtick. It's scum nmsa

[Enter]

I do like what's happening with NMSA, and with so many believable reasons to push people right now, I think there's probably scum on his wagon and/or nor voting

[NotMySpamAccount]

Playing similarly to what I've seen town!skitter play before.

in what way?
also what's prompting your new style?

kinda textwally, not much. New style because I felt like it

[Brigitte]

Why do you believe urap and not me?

Because you have been obviously acting. Considering it looks like you dropped your act maybe you can give me some genuine thoughts you have on the game instead of giving me fake!NMSA

Do you actually consider me and urap2 a team for instance?

[skitter30]

Kinda. I was screaming her for p much up until recently (I can find exactly what post later) but I usually play by gut until we are out of RVS and there's real things to analyze.

I never really had a scum read on reckoner I just wanted to see what I could get her to jump on and what I couldn't.

When she made the point about reck, I went back and actually looked at it and it looked kinda townie for reasons I explained later. So I started pushing elsewhere to see if I could get her to jump on that.

bleh i can maybe see this, and the timeline does match up

i still think you were being manipulative there tho; that's not inherently scummy but i don't like it

and what point about reck did she make ... that nothing he did was ai and that there's no reason to push him? so that prompted you to ... reread reck and decide that his vote change was townie?

and you forgot that she was already on urap2?

==

also brigitte is townie imo

[skitter30]

Here we once again have an act. It reads just as false as 1915, just with a different shtick. It's scum nmsa

yeah he's being posture-y and like over-confident here

i skimmed the first few posts of 1917 and id on't really see that there, he was more chill and willing to sheep and was like hyper-aware that he's new and might not be super great at the game so he was like willing to sheep you and tttt

[skitter30]

Playing similarly to what I've seen town!skitter play before.

in what way?
also what's prompting your new style?

kinda textwally, not much. New style because I felt like it

you think the text-walling is town indicative for me?
i'm *pretty* sure we talked about how it isn't for me in 1915, and that i'm more likely to textwall as scum than town?

[NotMySpamAccount]

I'm voting urap, your scumpartner, because he seemed scummier earlier.

eli5 why urap was scummy earlier

Not nearly as much content as in previous games.

It would be easier and more compelling for people to just go read like 10 posts but

In 1915 NMSA came in with an act. They played up the whole newbie thing (they have some outside experience), going so far as to claim VT in their first post saying "It's okay to say this, right?"

In 1917 they were town and they had a far less awkward, far breezier tone. There was zero posturing. Even under pressure and a decent way into the game they stood firm on not having any reads.

Here we once again have an act. It reads just as false as 1915, just with a different shtick. It's scum nmsa

Here I actually have reads, unlike in 1917, because here you and Brigitte are acting scummy. Also, here I'm acting because I want to try a new playstyle on for size, and actually saying clearly that I'm acting differently intentionally, rather than playing weirdly with no explanation.

Pedit:

Why do you believe urap and not me?

Because you have been obviously acting. Considering it looks like you dropped your act maybe you can give me some genuine thoughts you have on the game instead of giving me fake!NMSA

Do you actually consider me and urap2 a team for instance?

Yes, though less so than earlier given your reactions.

Here we once again have an act. It reads just as false as 1915, just with a different shtick. It's scum nmsa

yeah he's being posture-y and like over-confident here

i skimmed the first few posts of 1917 and id on't really see that there, he was more chill and willing to sheep and was like hyper-aware that he's new and might not be super great at the game so he was like willing to sheep you and tttt

I'm not sheeping urap this time because I can actually play more this game and urap is crazy scummy.

Pedit:

Playing similarly to what I've seen town!skitter play before.

in what way?
also what's prompting your new style?

kinda textwally, not much. New style because I felt like it

you think the text-walling is town indicative for me?
i'm *pretty* sure we talked about how it isn't for me in 1915, and that i'm more likely to textwall as scum than town?

Fair point. I'm too lazy to go back and check, but I'll take your explanation and put you back as null.

[Enter]

bleh i can maybe see this, and the timeline does match up

i still think you were being manipulative there tho; that's not inherently scummy but i don't like it

and what point about reck did she make ... that nothing he did was ai and that there's no reason to push him? so that prompted you to ... reread reck and decide that his vote change was townie?

and you forgot that she was already on urap2?

==

also brigitte is townie imo

She didn't make any real point on reck other than she wasn't really willing to vote for him. I went back and (really I only kinda skimmed the first time, that was the first time actually reading it, TBH). I thought his vote switch was townie for the same reason I play the way I do. Drawing attention to yourself gets people to look at you pretty closely and scum usually don't want people looking at them (or anyone) very closely cuz that resorts in game sorting.

I didn't really know her vote was on urap2 in the first place, I just wanted to see who she'd jump on to wagon with me. Pretty much everything she'd posted up to that point I'd read as joke posts so I hadn't read it too closely and I wanted something serious from her.

Agree that brig is p townie now.

[Brigitte]

It really seems like you dropped half of the act. Now the act is just your reads which look pretty artificial and don't make sense. How is urap2 crazy scummy for instance?

[NotMySpamAccount]

It really seems like you dropped half of the act. Now the act is just your reads which look pretty artificial and don't make sense. How is urap2 crazy scummy for instance?

I swear I've said this a few times already. Very little content (ubtil I pressured him of course), and traded spammy posts with you a lot.

[skitter30]

Not nearly as much content as in previous games.

a) why is this scummy in a general sense
b) i didn't read 1917 but in 1915 he repped in like late day1 and there was already content for him to work with; of course he'd immediatley have more content as a replacement than as a player starting the game wiht everyone else; int his context i'm not sure this is scummy at all

also UNVOTE:

[Brigitte]

It really seems like you dropped half of the act. Now the act is just your reads which look pretty artificial and don't make sense. How is urap2 crazy scummy for instance?

I swear I've said this a few times already. Very little content (ubtil I pressured him of course), and traded spammy posts with you a lot.

How is that scummy? If you point to meta I am going to ask you how this game is similar to any game you point to and consider that we are still less than 24 hours in the game as a factor for whatever meta reasoning you give.

[skitter30]

also he's since had more content (namely pushing you) so does that factor into your read at all?

[NotMySpamAccount]

Not nearly as much content as in previous games.

a) why is this scummy in a general sense
b) i didn't read 1917 but in 1915 he repped in like late day1 and there was already content for him to work with; of course he'd immediatley have more content as a replacement than as a player starting the game wiht everyone else; int his context i'm not sure this is scummy at all

also UNVOTE:

a) he was town in previous games
b) fair point, but in 1917 iirc he started off with content fairly early.

It really seems like you dropped half of the act. Now the act is just your reads which look pretty artificial and don't make sense. How is urap2 crazy scummy for instance?

I swear I've said this a few times already. Very little content (ubtil I pressured him of course), and traded spammy posts with you a lot.

How is that scummy? If you point to meta I am going to ask you how this game is similar to any game you point to and consider that we are still less than 24 hours in the game as a factor for whatever meta reasoning you give.

See above for why it's scummy.

also he's since had more content (namely pushing you) so does that factor into your read at all?

Yeah, he seems vaguely townier, considering switching the vote to Brigitte.

[u r a person 2]

a) he was town in previous games
b) fair point, but in 1917 iirc he started off with content fairly early.

There is no way that this isn't manufactured. I replaced into 1917 at page 8

[Brigitte]

Where is the link for 1917? I don't see it in the mini theme list?

[NotMySpamAccount]

a) he was town in previous games
b) fair point, but in 1917 iirc he started off with content fairly early.

There is no way that this isn't manufactured. I replaced into 1917 at page 8

oh wait crap he's right. yeah, urap is going closer to null. disregard my terrible memory.

Pedit:

Where is the link for 1917? I don't see it in the mini theme list?

Newbie 1915 and 1917 are the ones I've been referencing, my only completed games.

[u r a person 2]

Where is the link for 1917? I don't see it in the mini theme list?

These were newbies

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=78626 1915

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=78734 1917

[NotMySpamAccount]

Also, before I forget, VOTE: Brigitte

[u r a person 2]

Also, before I forget, VOTE: Brigitte

If you were scum reading us for our interactions early, and you no longer scum read me, why are you still scum reading Brigitte?