Mini 2059: Secrets of the Anuket Topaz [Over]

[Enter]

UNVOTE:

I don't know if I'm getting old or what, but I can't make reads lists like I used to. Maybe it's just work getting in the way. These are very... stream of conscious-y. I used to like to do colors and fluff it up and split up who was what and have three questions for everyone but I'm tired and I have to be up early tomorrow, so I'm going to get done what I can, try not to miss much, and I'll probably get a TL;DR in the thread tomorrow.

Spoiler: Rereading the game thread. Interesting things:

Still like Reck's vote switch. Draws attention, scum doesn't want attention, etc.

Tris doesn't ping me really the second time through. Don't really care for not having your vote on someone ever, but not doing it in an RVS where there's already a lot is pretty ok.

The NMSA wagon seems to be pretty RVS-y on second look. If I was going to call someone scum for jumping on it at this point, I think it would be tictac or tris, but I like both of their votes because I'm a fan of big wagons coming out of RVS. I think it's possible that the whole wagon is town.

Skitter's 70 reads as town, this early in the game she's got two and two halves reads on players. Don't like the disclaimer at the end, though.

Brig gets down to business quick. I'm a big fan. She's calm, confident, and pushing pretty much everything. Also she's paying attention. This pings me pretty hard as town.

Reck takes 31 seriously in 81. 31 looks like a joke post, and pretty obviously so, IMO, so this looks bad on him.

Skitter also takes 31 seriously. Maybe I'm not obvious enough?

99 shows Brig is paying attention again

106 and 107 read as Reck just posting as he thinks, which reads kinda town to me, but 110 and 111 read as him taking it too far, and at this point it looks kinda fabricated

121 from NMSA feels just WRONG. How has no one else done anything AI to you, but multiple other people have established several reads already? The vote feels pretty OMGUS-y as well.

I'm really not ideal. I've played this identically to 1917 so far, where I was town. Same thing here.

You've made one post at this point.

u r a person 2 follows up to NMSA as I would expect

198 poses a pretty stark contrast to 193 where NMSA calls urap2 scummy and then votes brig

tictac shares his thoughts, everything there is coming across townie

tris is paying attention, 238

269 feels uselessly aggressive. Reck is pinging me harder as scum

i like 281 and 283 from tris - she's asking about things that are happening that aren't necessarily popular w/ everyone else

nimeuh and flubb both ping me as kinda towny on the same page, but neither are making posts that they couldn't make as either alignment

294 reads as pretty towny for me, though, actually. flubb is probably town

297 also reads as sincere for urap. doesn't make up reads on the spot to look townier.

305 pings me again ... i don't like being emotional and i don't like it when others do the same

tris on the same page seems to be trying ---

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after this i stopped trying to do stream of consciousness and reads at the same time

Lady Angel and Nimueh

- Both of you need a larger post count. Lady Angel seems to be specifically avoiding posting any thoughts whatsoever, and Nimueh seems afraid of sharing thoughts that aren't universal. Here's three questions for you:
1. What do you think of skitter vs reck in the opening couple pages?
2. If you could lynch three people right now, who would it be and why? I just need a couple words from both of you
3. How comfortable do you feel playing scum?

Flubb

's post count is also rather low. You're null, but if you could answer #2 and 3 above that would be great.

tris

is kinda null, actually. talk about who you'd lynch and why, please? Actually, talk about skitter and your thoughts on Bronson's posts.

Reck

After rereading the opening from Reck, his posting seems like he's trying to get away with a tunnel all game. He's posted pretty much nothing outside of the posts against me, and he's kinda lurking while the NMSA wagon slowly withers. It wouldn't surprise me if they were partners, but I don't know that case 3.5 seems too likely, he had already gone too far in earlier posts. I think I will settle for case 3.

Spoiler: Case List for Reck

Update:

Still trying to decide if Reckoner:
1 seriously thinks he caught scum on page 1
2 is pushing cuz he's town and legitimately doesn't know better
2.5 is pushing cuz wagons are good for analysis
3 is gonna try and tunnel me all game so he doesn't have to pay attention and post content
3.5 is pushing me cuz NMSA is his buddy

NMSA

Talked about his posting in stream of consciousness, but don't like his vote on Brig, don't like his vote on urap2, he seemed OMGUS-y at first, his posts felt contrived and fake, but he says he's trying something and he posted reads.

rn trying to play more confident and deliberately provoking arguments.

Talk about this.

U r a person 2

His posting feels genuine, actually. His push on NMSA doesn't seem to be in an effort to ignore the thread, because he engaged skitter/reck in the discussion. I liked the discussion I had with him earlier, and he seems to be sincerely sorting. Town

skitter

prior to reading branson, skitter reads strong town. she's asking questions, actively sorting, and applying herself. she looks like she did in the game that just ended.

Brig

Town. I'm tired, don't wanna put words down. She's town. If she's scum, I give up game's over I'm going home

tictac

reads as null, too. I like that his 370 and i haven't seen anything i don't like from him tris or flubb, but none of them have anything that really can't be scum or can't be town. I don't know. I'll review them again tomorrow, I think.

Branson

It is glaringly apparent that Branson is applying herself. Town for effort. I'm going to keep reading tomorrow, after I respond to some of her posts.

[Enter]

This skitter case is going to be a huge headache to put into words without relying on my usual tactics to get my points across, but I'll try.

1. I believe #70 post is the scummiest post in the entire game so far, minus other posts that came by later... which are also by the same slot (and I will get to those later).
1a. The question to flubber is an empty nothing question.

You're talking about skitter's response to tris' flubber vote, right?

I think Reck's push is a lot more town than Skitter's is. At the very least, the thought process behind it (and from what little I know about how he plays from a long while back) looks a lot more genuine and naturally occurring from a town mindset.

I'm not interested in wagoning you because I'm thinking that you are town right now.

Talk about 110 and 111. Do both of those also look natural to you? Or is it more of a "Reck looks natural because skitter looks awkward and there's no way they're scum together"?

[Enter]

I mean 111 and 112. Darn it.

[Enter]

hello again, i didn't expect to be unavailable for the opening of this game. i hate when that happens.
u2's posts on this game feel kind of wooden. i misread him in the only other game we have together so i'll take that with a grain of salt, but yes.

pedit: oh, you're both online.

the continued conversation between u2 and Enter makes me want to pit u2 as town as well. i need to actually dig into that later but i have other things to do.

i don't know anything about tris besides join date, but i'm guessing that's either someone's alt or someone with experience. i wish i had a read there, was going to say tris is pinging me a bit but the request for questions directed towards them feels towny to me and it might just be the question-heavy style i don't like.

skitter: do you happen to have a read on me? i lack a good one on you.

What changed between these two?

[Enter]

VOTE: Reckoner

[Chara]

first one is from me reading the most recent page, second is after seening u2's reaction to what i said and more of your conversatiom as it kept going.

[u r a person 2]

VOTE: reck

[u r a person 2]

I don't see why tictac would look like he's busing. He's in basically the same situation as me as relates to that wagon. We both voted for nmsa before he started posting, and stayed because we thought he looked scummy when he did. What in particular about tictac looks like it could be a bus?

This is basically my position on tictac atm

[u r a person 2]

Chara, do you have any scum reads? I noticed your vote is on Skitter, but you said that you're not going to be able to try and sort her until later

[u r a person 2]

@enter I'm with you voting on Reck, and I'm eager to see and support this play style of yours. Why did we move off of chara?

[northsidegal]

Prodding Lady Angel and xRECKONERx.

[Chara]

Chara, do you have any scum reads? I noticed your vote is on Skitter, but you said that you're not going to be able to try and sort her until later

skitter was an rvs vote. i don't feel like voting yet, but i like the Reck wagon.

[Chara]

@enter I'm with you voting on Reck, and I'm eager to see and support this play style of yours. Why did we move off of chara?

why did

you

move off of me?

[xRECKONERx]

Hi sorry posting during the week is hard because work hates me, I'll try to get plugged back in ASAP

[u r a person 2]

why did you move off of me?

Trying something new both for my own personal benefit and to help me better understand Enter

[u r a person 2]

why did you move off of me?

Trying something new both for my own personal benefit and to help me better understand Enter

This is also the answer to why I moved

on to

you

[Chara]

this sort of makes me wonder if this is an Enter pocket attempt. though if so it'd be rather blatant and possibly not effective.

so you're still scumreading me, if i read between the lines?
Enter voted me for pressure, you voted me because you thought i did scummy things. now you're unvoting and you appear to be following Enter in that new direction, but your original vote on me was your own idea and not because of Enter?

[Enter]

@enter I'm with you voting on Reck, and I'm eager to see and support this play style of yours. Why did we move off of chara?

I like your style.

Branson recently starting pushing skitter over something that happened a while ago that we never really sorted.

In response, in my reads post I asked a lot of people to take a side, skitter or reck. I don't think they're mafia together, so we sort one, we sort both. Branson is pushing skitter so I'm providing counter-weight so we can see who jumps on where and try and sort them in the process of sorting reck.

[Chara]

i assumed Enter unvoted me because i began participating, if marginally, though i should probably ask if that's the reason. i'm not in his readslist.

pedit: i'm on skitter's side if being there means thinking she's town. i don't know if she is with a lot of confidence but of the two Reck is absolutely more likely to flip scum.
also i'm biased because i want to work with her again.

[Enter]

This is town, chara. He's voting with me because he's town and he's trying to sort me and help me

[Enter]

Calling this a buddy attempt is a bit of a stretch, I think. It makes pretty good sense in context.

[Chara]

i'm not interested in wagoning u2 right now, but there's definitely scum utility here

if

Reck ends up town. there's much less if this is a bus, because the towncred scum u2 gains from helping you is a lot less valuable than where i think this push will go.

pedit: it makes sense from town u2 too, but the way he's saying outright that he wants to help you and figure you out here pinged me. as i said if it's a buddy attempt it's pretty blatant so i don't know how likely i find that.

[Enter]

Talk about Reck and Skitter, chara. You think they're both town?

[Chara]

..no? i think Reck could be scum here. his reaction to you earlier was over the top and as i said, i like the wagon.
i'm not voting because i want to get a better sense of the whole game first to see where to direct myself.

[Chara]

and skitter's scumgame is good, but what she's said about her limitations is also correct. i can't call her confident town but right now i have no real reason to be suspicious.