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Post Post #525 (ISO) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 2:55 pm

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https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=76501

^^^^ this one

so like i said, from the context of that game being a thing i don't entirely understand where her push on me is coming from
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Post Post #526 (ISO) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 2:58 pm

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Hot Take: Ankamius replaced in with an alt to make it more difficult for you to read them?
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Post Post #527 (ISO) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 2:58 pm

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although if she's scum i'm not sure what she's actually trying to get out of this? there's at least half a dozen easier pushes she could be making here and like that's never going to end in a mislynch on me here realistically
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Post Post #528 (ISO) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 2:59 pm

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hi guys quick post while I got time! I know urap2 and enter missed me =)

I wanted to go into a lot of the posts i missed but i think that will have to wait till friday. Right now just wanted to say some of my read changes and go into a little bit about them.

I am scumreading Branson. I am leaning scum on Chara, least confident here on this read change. I am townreading Reckoner.

Branson I looked through the posts and was trying to dissect the thought process. Not sure it was all there. She says she is going by logic but the logic seemed to have been by intuition or make it up as you go. For instance the feelings on reckoner town, and the case against skitter I thought was trying to logic a case on how someones actions don't make sense without thinking of it made sense from that persons perspective which didn't sit right with the whole thinking as reckoner and other comments made on skitter.


Reckoner has a different approach to this game than I would, he is reading players who go against consensus like branson as that is town which to me is bad play, and when you think of his reads in these terms you go "why is he not townreading Enter as town for that mindset?" but i think this is due to his overal tendency to skim thread. Not do any deep analysis and i don't think their is a scummy fake positioning here. Call that intuition. I think theres definitely sorting going on even if i think its low level.


Chara is...I don't know how to express this. Odd? Reading Chara posts and I see like an invisible barrier between it and everyone they are talking to. I dont know if this is normal. Could be as they say they are busy. But I don't see the need for this barrier even though your busy. And I know this perception of the posts but I see it in almost every post. I don't know what to make of it. I am not sure on the scumhunting because of this barrier I see. It just makes me think scum putting up a barrier.


Still town: Enter, urap2, skitter.

Still scum: NMSA


Also I disagree with Triss townreads. Not sure why people are townreading her but i don't scumread her so not feeling worth arguing over that.
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Post Post #529 (ISO) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 2:59 pm

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i mean idk i never really had to read her given that we were scumbuddies there so like i don't know if switching to this alt really had anything to do with me in particular
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Post Post #530 (ISO) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:00 pm

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In post 524, u r a person 2 wrote:Join me here, skitter, enter?

VOTE: Branson
Ohh damn.

I thought i was the only one scumreading Branson :lol:
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Post Post #531 (ISO) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:02 pm

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In post 528, Brigitte wrote:Chara is...I don't know how to express this. Odd? Reading Chara posts and I see like an invisible barrier between it and everyone they are talking to. I dont know if this is normal. Could be as they say they are busy. But I don't see the need for this barrier even though your busy. And I know this perception of the posts but I see it in almost every post. I don't know what to make of it. I am not sure on the scumhunting because of this barrier I see. It just makes me think scum putting up a barrier.
yeah there's something kinda .... lacking from their posts? there's a very superficial vibe there, and they feel kinda distant? i don't know if that's because they're busy irl but they're posting just feels very, ever so slightly off i'm not sure if barrier is quite the term i would use to describe it but i'm happy that someone else picked up on it too and that i'm not just seeing things
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Post Post #532 (ISO) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:03 pm

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In post 511, skitter30 wrote:??? i don't read it as a pocketing attempt at all? it makes sense as a progression from his argument with enter that ended with urap concluding that the whole thing might just be a playstyle clash
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brigitte: not sure what you mean by putting up a wall. like i feel disconnected from the game? because i do.
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Post Post #533 (ISO) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:03 pm

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In post 531, skitter30 wrote:
In post 528, Brigitte wrote:Chara is...I don't know how to express this. Odd? Reading Chara posts and I see like an invisible barrier between it and everyone they are talking to. I dont know if this is normal. Could be as they say they are busy. But I don't see the need for this barrier even though your busy. And I know this perception of the posts but I see it in almost every post. I don't know what to make of it. I am not sure on the scumhunting because of this barrier I see. It just makes me think scum putting up a barrier.
yeah there's something kinda .... lacking from their posts? there's a very superficial vibe there, and they feel kinda distant? i don't know if that's because they're busy irl but their posting just feels very, ever so slightly off.

i'm not sure if barrier is quite the term i would use to describe it but i'm happy that someone else picked up on it too and that i'm not just seeing things
(they're -> their, it was bugging me; added a line break)
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Post Post #534 (ISO) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:04 pm

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VOTE: branson
i think i'm fine with this for now
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Post Post #535 (ISO) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:04 pm

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In post 527, skitter30 wrote:although if she's scum i'm not sure what she's actually trying to get out of this? there's at least half a dozen easier pushes she could be making here and like that's never going to end in a mislynch on me here realistically
Maybe just a way to be active without having to take a stand on NMSA/Enter/Me? just spitballing

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Post Post #536 (ISO) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:08 pm

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i have this really awkward feeling here where i want to be annoyed about being viewed as disconnected even if it might be right, because i feel that way and that my reads aren't as strong as i'd like. and i also want to say it reaffirms my townreads on brigitte and skitter somewhat that they both picked up on the same thing. so i guess i'm annoyed but also got information out of it. i don't know.

pedit: skitter, is the meta you linked with Branson easy to read?
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Post Post #537 (ISO) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:09 pm

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it's not because i'm busy anymore, for what it's worth. i have the evening off today.
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In post 537, Chara wrote:it's not because i'm busy anymore, for what it's worth. i have the evening off today.
How can I help you get reconnected to the game?
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Post Post #539 (ISO) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:12 pm

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um i'm not sure? it had incredibly funky mechanics that probably made it a bit of an atypical game, especially without context
so like reading through my iso might be confusing

but the point that i'm kinda trying to make is that i basically prodged my way through that game in the main thread (i probalby have a higher post count here already than in like two months of that game) and there's basically no conversations like this one there because i avoid them if it all possible

there's a lot more walling, and a lot less like actively engaging with people
so like i guess i'm just kinda confused how/why she thinks my game changed so much since then
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Post Post #540 (ISO) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:12 pm

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In post 527, skitter30 wrote:although if she's scum i'm not sure what she's actually trying to get out of this? there's at least half a dozen easier pushes she could be making here and like that's never going to end in a mislynch on me here realistically
does she know enough of you to be aware you're hard to mislynch. i thought your only game with her was this scumgame you two had together.
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Post Post #541 (ISO) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:14 pm

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In post 536, Chara wrote:i have this really awkward feeling here where i want to be annoyed about being viewed as disconnected even if it might be right, because i feel that way and that my reads aren't as strong as i'd like. and i also want to say it reaffirms my townreads on brigitte and skitter somewhat that they both picked up on the same thing. so i guess i'm annoyed but also got information out of it. i don't know.

pedit: skitter, is the meta you linked with Branson easy to read?
sorry, not trying to be annoying, but i did kinda get this vibe that your posts were like distracted or distanced or idk the right word
i'm not sure if it's ai because it could be like an irl thing which is why i wasn't really mentioning it till brigitte brought it up but it's def a thing i noticed
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Post Post #542 (ISO) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:15 pm

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In post 538, u r a person 2 wrote:
In post 537, Chara wrote:it's not because i'm busy anymore, for what it's worth. i have the evening off today.
How can I help you get reconnected to the game?
i do appreciate the offer, but this one might be on me. normally i find myself posting against the status quo but i'm sort of agreeing with the townreads being stated and the scumreads being floated. so there isn't anything for me to feel strongly about arguing against.
that's just a guess. but it's certainly different from my usual pattern of being mildly and ineffectually controversial.
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Post Post #543 (ISO) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:17 pm

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In post 540, Chara wrote:
In post 527, skitter30 wrote:although if she's scum i'm not sure what she's actually trying to get out of this? there's at least half a dozen easier pushes she could be making here and like that's never going to end in a mislynch on me here realistically
does she know enough of you to be aware you're hard to mislynch. i thought your only game with her was this scumgame you two had together.
yeah i was thinking that as i wrote that post but i guess that bit i didn't actually write, whoops
i *think* she knows that? if she doesn't than this point is moot obviously
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Post Post #544 (ISO) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:18 pm

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Chara be all the controversial in the world =)

Just want you to be engaged because I have hard time reading disengaged <3
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Post Post #545 (ISO) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:19 pm

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In post 541, skitter30 wrote:sorry, not trying to be annoying, but i did kinda get this vibe that your posts were like distracted or distanced or idk the right word
i'm not sure if it's ai because it could be like an irl thing which is why i wasn't really mentioning it till brigitte brought it up but it's def a thing i noticed
you're really not being annoying, it's on me. and you're probably right. i don't know if i'd call it irl or just being not in a great mafia place when this happened to start and then not really getting back into it for whatever reason.

as long as i don't fall into inactivity it should be fine.
u2 was probably paranoia, i know i get suspicious of players i don't know well being... i don't know how to better phrase it beyond "understanding and nice"? i still think the conversation with Enter was good.
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In post 544, Brigitte wrote:Chara be all the controversial in the world =)

Just want you to be engaged because I have hard time reading disengaged <3
i want to be controversial, that i'm not now is the problem.
Enter's towny, skitter's towny, you're towny. even u2 is towny. there's nothing i find particularly in need of correcting. i could be paranoid of one of those but i'm simply not feeling that.
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