Mini 2059: Secrets of the Anuket Topaz [Over]

[northsidegal]

The water was calm. There was no wind blowing.

Votecount 1.8

NotMySpamAccount (4):

tris 62, tictac 67, Brigitte 144, Flubbernugget 481

skitter30 (2):

Chara 69, Branson 259

Enter (2):

xRECKONERx 82, NotMySpamAccount 490

Branson (2):

u r a person 2 524, skitter30 534

xRECKONERx (1):

Enter 454

Brigitte (1):

Lady Angel 40

Not voting (1):

Nimueh

With 13 alive, it’s 7 to lynch. The Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2019-03-08 00:58:59).

Mod Notes:

skitter30 is V/LA on weekends.
Flubbernugget and Nimueh are V/LA while sick.
Brigitte is V/LA until Friday.

[Brigitte]

Chara be all the controversial in the world =)

Just want you to be engaged because I have hard time reading disengaged <3

i want to be controversial, that i'm not now is the problem.
Enter's towny, skitter's towny, you're towny. even u2 is towny. there's nothing i find particularly in need of correcting. i could be paranoid of one of those but i'm simply not feeling that.

Call urap2 a poop head for moving his vote back to NMSA
I think we can get you two in a fight

So you agree on Branson being scum? Have any thoughts that haven't been said on that?

[Brigitte]

I am here for 10 more minutes before I got to do other stuff. Anyone got questions or want to jam. Now is the time.

[Chara]

i don't find Branson especially towny, which is sort of the same as being fine with others finding her scummy. i'm having trouble actually sorting the slot.

and u2 voting nmsa is exactly what he said he wanted to be doing, so i feel no need to insult him. :> plus, he's nice.

[u r a person 2]

I just had to check my own iso to make sure I didn't accidently vote nmsa... lol

my vote is on branson atm.

but my fiery gaze has been locked on NMSA the entire time

[Brigitte]

You aren't going to be controversial by calling him nice!
I am gonna have to train you mean girls style

Want to talk out the Branson slot pro/con or something? I am really interested in hearing more opposition to scum!Branson right now.

[Brigitte]

I just had to check my own iso to make sure I didn't accidently vote nmsa... lol

my vote is on branson atm.

but my fiery gaze has been locked on NMSA the entire time

Wait I said you moved to him? I meant you moved away from him...

I mean...I tricked you! Ha.
Point for Brigitte.

[Chara]

now that i look at it again, nmsa's read on Nimueh is sort of strange to me. finding reasons to vote nmsa is bad according to nsma, but the slight scumlean comes from lurking instead of that?

nmsa, would appreciate a response to this when you're back.

[Branson]

Hi, I've been loosely following along since my last post. I can't do more full analysis stuff until tomorrow, but I can comment on a few things while I am here.

By the way, if I can't get into the game properly within a good chunk of tomorrow, I'm replacing my main back in. I failed to realize how fast behind I would be with a disadvantageous mindset thanks to this game coinciding with my work schedule shifting back to mornings.

[northsidegal]

I'm certain you've all noticed that I'm not up to my usual standard of votecounts this game. I've been exceedingly busy lately. Unfortunately, I'm not sure if this is likely to change any time soon.

I've set up information for Mathblade's vote scrubber in post 1 so that you may generate your own votecounts, should you desire.

Thanks for bearing with me.

[Branson]

If anything can be answered relatively quickly and you don't want it missed, please quote it for me. I can't guarantee I will see it otherwise.

[skitter30]

and i guess i might as well get to where i've been leading up to wrt branson: she was my scumbuddy in one of my recent 'good' scumgames (gerrymandering) and i think this game is already sufficiently different from that one that i'm kinda surprised that she's scumreading me here tbh

[skitter30]

that's been a topic of conversation for the last page or so

[Branson]

I'm confused why, exactly?

I don't regard meta as a tool that is worth using without a great deal of context into why specific tells work.

My experience with you is that scumgame you mentioned and a game I was loosely following where you also endgamed as scum. I have no town games of yours to contrast that with and definitely not a read into your personality regarding mafia from them, so I have no reason to take my past experiences with you into account on my read.

[u r a person 2]

I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts under the assumption that skitter is town, branson

[Branson]

This skitter case is going to be a huge headache to put into words without relying on my usual tactics to get my points across, but I'll try.

1. I believe #70 post is the scummiest post in the entire game so far, minus other posts that came by later... which are also by the same slot (and I will get to those later).
1a. The question to flubber is an empty nothing question.

You're talking about skitter's response to tris' flubber vote, right?

I think Reck's push is a lot more town than Skitter's is. At the very least, the thought process behind it (and from what little I know about how he plays from a long while back) looks a lot more genuine and naturally occurring from a town mindset.

I'm not interested in wagoning you because I'm thinking that you are town right now.

Talk about 110 and 111. Do both of those also look natural to you? Or is it more of a "Reck looks natural because skitter looks awkward and there's no way they're scum together"?

1. I meant the first thing in that post I was referencing. I was going in order of skitter's comments in that post.
2. I believe it's not something I can get a read from since that looks well within his general playstyle more than indicative of a particular alignment.

Hot Take: Ankamius replaced in with an alt to make it more difficult for you to read them?

That would make no sense for me to do. Nobody in this playerlist has enough foresight into how I play to be able to pick apart my town nuance from the scum fakes, so it makes no sense to try to hide them. Second, Skitter has only ever seen my scumgame unless she observed any that I am not aware of. Third, I have a much harder time avoiding lynches on this account than I do on my main account, so even in a vacuum, that play would make no sense.

Branson I looked through the posts and was trying to dissect the thought process. Not sure it was all there. She says she is going by logic but the logic seemed to have been by intuition or make it up as you go. For instance the feelings on reckoner town, and the case against skitter I thought was trying to logic a case on how someones actions don't make sense without thinking of it made sense from that persons perspective which didn't sit right with the whole thinking as reckoner and other comments made on skitter.

I think this is my fault for not communicating properly.

This is less of a raw logic account and more an account where I try to openly flesh out where exactly my intuition is getting its pings from. Usually it takes me a long time to figure it out, so I'm partially using this alt to try to make it easier so that I have a better ability to convince people of where my pushes come from in future games.

does she know enough of you to be aware you're hard to mislynch. i thought your only game with her was this scumgame you two had together.

I can guess that she's hard to mislynch just by the way she talks. I've been around for quite a while, Chara.

[Branson]

I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts under the assumption that skitter is town, branson

Do you have anything specific? It's hard to adjust my thoughts when I'm still so far behind on the thread.

[skitter30]

I'm confused why, exactly?

I don't regard meta as a tool that is worth using without a great deal of context into why specific tells work.

My experience with you is that scumgame you mentioned and a game I was loosely following where you also endgamed as scum. I have no town games of yours to contrast that with and definitely not a read into your personality regarding mafia from them, so I have no reason to take my past experiences with you into account on my read.

ok that's what i was trying to find out; i asked at some point whether or not you use meta to form reads but i guess you missed that

and idk i guess what i'm getting at is that on my end i kinda think that this game is different enough from that one that i'm not sure why you think that early push on enter comes from scum!me given that you've seen how scum!me plays.

oh and another question: how easy/hard do you think i am to mislynch?

[skitter30]

oh and another question: how easy/hard do you think i am to mislynch?

oh you answered this already, whoops

[Branson]

@Mod: Replace back in on Ankamius

I'm realizing that this game is not functioning in a way that will allow me to deep-analyze the way I want to in this account, especially not when I'm already this far behind.

I'm sorry for the extra work, NSG

[Branson]

I forgot I have emotes enabled by default on this account.

Sigh.

[skitter30]

do you have a read on chara?

[northsidegal]

Ankamius replaces Branson.

[u r a person 2]

@Ank

I think the thing you could do to best help me read you is to catch up and just tell us where you're at reads wise

[Ankamius]

boop

tbh I might not until I have a reason to