Mini 2059: Secrets of the Anuket Topaz [Over]

[Enter]

Both of you drive me crazy.

[tris]

Reck I would love to bring back Lynch all lurkers, lynch qll liars, lynch all sled voters, but not this game. Look at NMSA. Point out a post that makes him town

that's not how burden of fucking proof works

chances are, he's town
it's on the CHORUS OF PEOPLE SCREAMING THAT HE'S SCUM to present a compelling case, which absolutely ZERO of you have done

Turns out it goes both ways. The only argument for him being scum is resistance which there's a surprise large amount of for this to be a solid argument.

I'm confused by this. It seems from your other posts that you have other reasons for voting NMSA, but then you're saying this?

[Enter]

I'm confused by this. It seems from your other posts that you have other reasons for voting NMSA, but then you're saying this

I do. I was just mad at rock for being inconsistent and wanted him to backup his town claim

[Enter]

Especially because it's pretty apparent he hasn't been paying a whole lot of attention

[tris]

wait lemme do my tris impression
"im gonna try to hammer someone THEN worry about forming actual reads"

this is actually very easily answered by her using the fake hammer specifically to try to get those reads

and not actually getting as many as she wanted from it

Actually, I did the fake hammer more on a whim. I didn't really have any specific motivations for it. The post afterwards about being lacking in reads was something I was going to say before I put that on hold to make the fake hammer.

[skitter30]

Subject: micro 849: mafia (game is done.)

I think I should have skitter pocketed this game? I think she would expect me to play completely differently since she's only ever seen me be mostly absent before (as a scum game), but I also have no idea how she gets reads or if she even takes that into account in the first place...

I'm confused why, exactly?

I don't regard meta as a tool that is worth using without a great deal of context into why specific tells work.

My experience with you is that scumgame you mentioned and a game I was loosely following where you also endgamed as scum. I have no town games of yours to contrast that with and definitely not a read into your personality regarding mafia from them, so I have no reason to take my past experiences with you into account on my read.

you obviously remember that game and were expecting me to compare your play in scadd's game to your play in gerrymandering but when i object to your current read on me based on *my* play in gerrymandering you dismiss that line of reasoning?

(obviously i was trying to avoid talking about this game yesterday; @chara scum!her had seen my towngame in a game that had just ended)

and i guess what i was avoiding saying is that you feel kinda *flat* here in the same way you did in schadd's game
i don't have a towngame to compare against but your play in this game kinda reminds me of that one

[Ankamius]

my personality read of you at the time was that you paid attention to that sort of thing and I was specifically testing you to see if that held true

it didn't

[skitter30]

lol nimueh's on v/la for 2 fucking weeks is this real life

VOTE: lady angel

@mod please replace nimueh if they cannot play this game until march 12th

i second this ^^^^^

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VOTE: u r a person 2

You're not really giving reads. You're just shading me and inexplicably calling nmsa town. What reasons do you have?

VOTE: nmsa

I'm ready to do this tbh. got a decent town bloc and caught scum

This is not a town response

Let's gooooooo

bad vote

like even his response to this vote is quite townie

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Pushing controversial reads/stances is more likely to come from scum me than town me Unless I have an already established basis for it, in which case it's more likely to come from town me.

uh pushing me early this game (when quite a few people were townreading me already) looks more than a little bit like 'pushing controversial reads/stances'

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can we not fucking do this with lady angel & nim giving us ABSOLUTELY GODDAMN NOTHING TODAY

^^^^^ can we like not end the day when there's slots that have literally psoted like nothing? kthx

@nsg is lady angel going to get replaced?

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Brigitte is looking like scum #2

tris and reck are virtually locktown

what on earth

why is tris locktown for fake-hammering someone you think is town ...?
why is brigitte scum?
why am i hating all of your posts?
so many questions

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Why am I town?

did you fake hammer on purpose

Yeah, do you think I wouldn't have as scum?
UNVOTE:

was there a point to the fake-hammer or ...?

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ok new post

[Ankamius]

I like a challenge skitter

[NotMySpamAccount]

VOTE: NMSA

Not even done with my reread but urap knows I wouldn't fall for this, even if I were scum. Also

@nsg v/la until Saturday

[skitter30]

VOTE: NMSA I haven't changed my mind here.

Why do you think he's town, Ankamius?

because for how certain you are that the slot is scum, you're playing like you already think he's going to flip town?

... you just called her locktown like a page prior; this is not an exchange that happens with someone you're strongly townreading

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I didn't try to hammer anyone. I knew my vote was already there. It was intentionally fake.

again, why tho?

Actually, I did the fake hammer more on a whim. I didn't really have any specific motivations for it. The post afterwards about being lacking in reads was something I was going to say before I put that on hold to make the fake hammer.

like did you get anything out of it? did it help you form reads? or did you just randomly decide to lol-fake-hammer for no apparenet purpose?

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Ank is looking pretty scummy too.

can i interest you in helping me form an ank wagon?

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town (or, at least, town enough for day1): enter, urap2, brigitte, reck
scummy: nmsa, ank

gut-town:flubber
gut-scum: tris, tictac

everyone else: null or idk or i don't remember them

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i'm very happy with my vote
i would vote tris too actually i think
i don't really have any particular objections to the nmsa wagon but i scumread ank quite a lot more, and i don't want the day to end before nimueh/lady angel start posting and/or get a replacement that actually, like plays the game

[skitter30]

my personality read of you at the time was that you paid attention to that sort of thing and I was specifically testing you to see if that held true

it didn't

i don't know what you're trying to say here

[Ankamius]

I wasn't talking to tris with that, skitter

I think I was talking to Urap2?

[skitter30]

ok fair enough, i msiread who you were responding to there then

[Ankamius]

836

I honestly can't remember a whole lot about it

I was testing you to see if I found part of your thought processes I could exploit

And I put it in the scum PT to help me bravado through the game since I have a tendency to panic in my scumgames

[u r a person 2]

So uh this is embarrassing


and I think I might get mislynched for the first time this day phase as a result lolMy bad, like, not even upset if that happens


but nmsa is town LOL

UNVOTE:

[Ankamius]

show me urap2

[skitter30]

I'm confused why, exactly?

I don't regard meta as a tool that is worth using without a great deal of context into why specific tells work.

My experience with you is that scumgame you mentioned and a game I was loosely following where you also endgamed as scum. I have no town games of yours to contrast that with and definitely not a read into your personality regarding mafia from them, so I have no reason to take my past experiences with you into account on my read.

what are you confused about here, exactly?

[skitter30]

So uh this is embarrassing


and I think I might get mislynched for the first time this day phase as a result lolMy bad, like, not even upset if that happens


but nmsa is town LOL

UNVOTE:

uh ... do tell

[Ankamius]

I was confused why I should've specifically noted you were playing differently

I even said I barely was paying attention to how my scum partners were playing

[Enter]

So uh this is embarrassing


and I think I might get mislynched for the first time this day phase as a result lolMy bad, like, not even upset if that happens


but nmsa is town LOL

UNVOTE:

You're going to have to say more than this.

[Enter]

VOTE: ank[/v]

I'm willing to wait a bit for lurkers to get replaced, though, otherwise I'm down with LaL. I think both of them have probably been prodded and they're both well past the replace time.

[Enter]

VOTE: ank[/v]

I'm willing to wait a bit for lurkers to get replaced, though, otherwise I'm down with LaL. I think both of them have probably been prodded and they're both well past the replace time.

VOTE: ank

Reads list please.

[u r a person 2]

So like, the opening was scummy af. He was clearly making up reads and he was stumbling over them, and he never actually went back to look at either 1915 or 1917 to check my meta he went off of memory. And that led to him screwing up regarding me making early content and I slammed him for that. but that meshes with the style he was attempting, tbh. They weren't supposed to be real reads

And I remember thinking at the time that his reads list was shit, and I was kind of in the headspace that enter was scum and that perhaps he was telling nmsa to stfu and just post some reads (and enter had said he was assuming day talk, which made me think there probably is day talk)

but looking back at it, it reads super relaxed. wordings like "my own reads confuse me sometimes" and sticking with the brig vote are probably not in his scum range. Also the reads, while surface level aren't stretched at all. They're not strong reads, and he's not pretending they are, anymore. Which really jives with my understanding of his play.

He hasn't produced much of anything since, but from his perspective and play time he's not winning this 1v1, right? I'm thinking demotivated town

[skitter30]

i feel like there's something wonky in your logic somewhere or that i'm missing something in this convo but i'm a little too tired rn to sort out what's bothering me exactly rn, so i think i'm just going to drop this specific line of inquiry until i figure it out

p-edit @ank