Mini 2059: Secrets of the Anuket Topaz [Over]

[Ankamius]

yes I'm mad

I'm positively fuming that you're acting like scum

[Flubbernugget]

what's your read on Ankamius?

Weakest of my scumreads

[Flubbernugget]

Hey skitter,

Do you still want an ank wagon?

[Chara]

yes I'm mad

I'm positively fuming that you're acting like scum

discredits Flubber's word choice (being "mad" means "scumreading me because" in this context and Ank of course knows this) by trolling and doesn't engage with his argument at all.
i don't know if this is scummy, maybe i would be reading it as scummy in a vacuum but i feel like Ankamius is just like this. but i don't really like it.

Flubber: when you talked about people being frustrated with her playstyle, it sounded like you were one of them. but i find her playing close to her chest is only frustrating if she's concealing town thoughts, not scum thoughts.

[Ankamius]

I'm making fun of the fact that his word choice is completely ridiculous

(btw it speaks to a discrediting mindset rather than a scumreading mindset)

[Flubbernugget]

yes I'm mad

I'm positively fuming that you're acting like scum

discredits Flubber's word choice (being "mad" means "scumreading me because" in this context and Ank of course knows this) by trolling and doesn't engage with his argument at all.
i don't know if this is scummy, maybe i would be reading it as scummy in a vacuum but i feel like Ankamius is just like this. but i don't really like it.

Flubber: when you talked about people being frustrated with her playstyle, it sounded like you were one of them. but i find her playing close to her chest is only frustrating if she's concealing town thoughts, not scum thoughts.

Honestly, I don't recall who is frustrated and who isn't. But the whole ordeal is reminiscent of how people used to describe my play years ago, and the only thing I was good at back then was pissing people off.

This is also why ank is one of my weaker scum reads and I haven't elaborated much on the read. I can't really articulate what I discern between bad play and scum play with them.

[Flubbernugget]

I'm making fun of the fact that his word choice is completely ridiculous

It's clear enough to understand and refute if you ever decide that's a good use of your time (it is btw)

[Ankamius]

then explain why "mad" is the word you'd use for this?

[Flubbernugget]

because that's how I talk. Chara elaborated on my word choice, and they're 100% correct in how I meant it.

[Chara]

(btw it speaks to a discrediting mindset rather than a scumreading mindset)

or it's an NAI posting style? some players post informally. considering you're one of them i'm surprised you're finding AI info in it.

[Chara]

variants of "mad about" "bothered by" "pinged by" are all often synonyms in a mafia context that say a lot more about the player than anything else.
i often say something "bothers me" when i find it scummy. it doesn't mean i'm actually bothered.

[Flubbernugget]

this is such a bizarre conversation

[Chara]

Honestly, I don't recall who is frustrated and who isn't. But the whole ordeal is reminiscent of how people used to describe my play years ago, and the only thing I was good at back then was pissing people off.

This is also why ank is one of my weaker scum reads and I haven't elaborated much on the read. I can't really articulate what I discern between bad play and scum play with them.

i thought the way you talked about her playstyle being frustrating might be indicative that you knew she was town here, but were still scumreading her.
i think this reply is fine, however.

pedit: but arguing against other bad language pragmatics is one of my favourite things to do! /s

[Ankamius]

I interpreted it the way I did because I

have

seen scum purposely try to use more distant wording to try to discredit scumreads on them

especially since he's attacking the apparent lack of a trajectory on one of the only slots I've felt has held to a pretty consistent thought process this entire game

[Flubbernugget]

slots I've felt has held to a pretty consistent thought process this entire game

Are we reading the same game?

They literally admitted otherwise.

[Flubbernugget]

There absolutely is a "town can be inconsistent" conversation here, and I'd love to have it. But that's not going to happen if the raw facts are to be denied.

[Chara]

i still think u2's turnaround there is more towny than not. and it's hard to tell if a random fakehammer amid another fakehammer is trolling or not when you don't actually comment on it.
so u2 bringing it up for discussion didn't strike me as bad.

i also don't think consistency is towny, anyway, but i might have accepted that Ank's thought processes are drastically different from mine.

pedit: hahaha. of course you'd say that after i've typed this.

[Ankamius]

slots I've felt has held to a pretty consistent thought process this entire game

Are we reading the same game?

They literally admitted otherwise.

There absolutely is a "town can be inconsistent" conversation here, and I'd love to have it. But that's not going to happen if the raw facts are to be denied.

consistent reads =/= consistent thought process

[Flubbernugget]

i still think u2's turnaround there is more towny than not. and it's hard to tell if a random fakehammer amid another fakehammer is trolling or not when you don't actually comment on it.
so u2 bringing it up for discussion didn't strike me as bad.

i also don't think consistency is towny, anyway, but i might have accepted that Ank's thought processes are drastically different from mine.

pedit: hahaha. of course you'd say that after i've typed this.

I think in a bubble, urap asking about my fakehammer is fine. When there's not much more in the way of looking for scum reads than "here's what my memory serves, a bunch of gut town reads," it's a straw grasp and an attempt to look town.

[Flubbernugget]

slots I've felt has held to a pretty consistent thought process this entire game

Are we reading the same game?

They literally admitted otherwise.

There absolutely is a "town can be inconsistent" conversation here, and I'd love to have it. But that's not going to happen if the raw facts are to be denied.

consistent reads =/= consistent thought process

Uhhhh

I guess if we farted to get reads onto paper instead of thinking about them or something

[Chara]

thought process being the process used to reach reads, and reads being. well, reads.

[Ankamius]

idk what to tell you then?

his approach is consistent
his mindset is consistent
his reads are not consistent

guess which one is the least important!

[Flubbernugget]

I'm not seeing a difference and I'm still not interested in working through it to have a conversation on that basis either, sorry.

[Ankamius]

this conversation is over then

[Brigitte]

I am slowly dying over here.
What is with this new tictac wagon?