Mini 2059: Secrets of the Anuket Topaz [Over]

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Votecount 1.1

tictac(3)

~ u r a person 2(180), xRECKONERx(75), Enter(145)

Brigitte(2)

~ Elbirn(7), Chara(72)

Ankamius(2)

~ skitter30(116), Brigitte(94)

u r a person 2(1)

~ Flubbernugget(46)

NotMySpamAccount(1)

~ tictac(13)

Flubbernugget(1)

~ Ankamius(150)

Enter(1)

~ NotMySpamAccount(26)


Not Voting (2): Nimueh(4), tris(73)

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2019-03-08 00:58:59)

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I think it's a good sign the thread is so active but we've got too many different wagons going for me to viable keep track of all of what's going on, so let's do this:

Everyone please post a reads list and a quick case for whoever your vote is on right now.

I'll be back tomorrow to catch up and do the same.

[NotMySpamAccount]

yay skitter is probably town because of this interaction

I agree. How is watch duty right now?

i can't see the sun anymore but I think that might be because I've lost my retinas

Ohhh no. Go see the medical unit quick!

These two have been spamming all game. I'm calling my shot now, this is the scumteam. Come join me on the urap wagon, game is already solved.

Also correct me if I'm wrong because I have no experience in setup spec, but this game probably has more than two scum in it, right? with 13 people? This was a legit dumb!tell I think. He's only played newbie games up until now and they have 2 person teams.

Hmm yeah. This didn't occur to me. I don't have nearly enough time for a proper readthrough, but I'm definitely townreading urap2 now, his play has developed into what I'm used to from town!urap at this point. I definitely don't see the motivation for the tris fakehammer, I've pulled that before, but the only reason to do it imho is because the wagon is under significant pressure, and the fakehammer could fit in the progression the game was going in. The fake lolhammer came out of nowhere, I would have checked it anyway, this seems like either bad play (which I wouldn't expect coming from the alt of an experienced player, which I think someone said tris is) or scum trying to get towncred.

[Ankamius]

Town:
Enter
u r a person 2
skitter30
xRECKONERx
tris
NotMySpamAccount

Scum:
Brigitte
Chara?
Flubbernugget?

Who the fuck knows :
Elbirn
Nimueh
tictac

[Ankamius]

Funny thing is that if I was able to locktown all my townreads, this would be a solve.

[Flubbernugget]

You sitting on the nmsa wagon and being completely unable to scumhunt anywhere else.

But, he's not on the NMSA wagon anymore. And he is scumhunting elsewhere.

First one is true.

Second one is not, and I discussed why

[tris]

yay skitter is probably town because of this interaction

I agree. How is watch duty right now?

i can't see the sun anymore but I think that might be because I've lost my retinas

Ohhh no. Go see the medical unit quick!

These two have been spamming all game. I'm calling my shot now, this is the scumteam. Come join me on the urap wagon, game is already solved.

Also correct me if I'm wrong because I have no experience in setup spec, but this game probably has more than two scum in it, right? with 13 people? This was a legit dumb!tell I think. He's only played newbie games up until now and they have 2 person teams.

Hmm yeah. This didn't occur to me. I don't have nearly enough time for a proper readthrough, but I'm definitely townreading urap2 now, his play has developed into what I'm used to from town!urap at this point. I definitely don't see the motivation for the tris fakehammer, I've pulled that before, but the only reason to do it imho is because the wagon is under significant pressure, and the fakehammer could fit in the progression the game was going in. The fake lolhammer came out of nowhere, I would have checked it anyway, this seems like either bad play (which I wouldn't expect coming from the alt of an experienced player, which I think someone said tris is) or scum trying to get towncred.

I'm only somewhat experienced. I had some games back in 2014, a number of which I flaked on, and then I was gone for a while. I played one game in 2017, and now I'm here with 2 other games with this account.

i still think u2's turnaround there is more towny than not. and it's hard to tell if a random fakehammer amid another fakehammer is trolling or not when you don't actually comment on it.
so u2 bringing it up for discussion didn't strike me as bad.

i also don't think consistency is towny, anyway, but i might have accepted that Ank's thought processes are drastically different from mine.

pedit: hahaha. of course you'd say that after i've typed this.

I think in a bubble, urap asking about my fakehammer is fine. When there's not much more in the way of looking for scum reads than "here's what my memory serves, a bunch of gut town reads," it's a straw grasp and an attempt to look town.

Are these not looking for scum reads?

Spoiler:

like i'm not sure what the scum motivation is for such a massive read reversal here
cuz if they're partners i don't think he just randomly drops the push
and if nmsa is town and urap is scum like why bother doing this rn?

the fact that i still went "but u2 might still be scum here doing this as a smokescreen in spite of nmsa being town!"
and that's... stupid. and my gut is being stupid. i think this is a case where i have to agree with you on u2 being town and just ignore my gutread on him because it's just making zero sense.

but yes, i agree. i'm kind of happy he's dropped it too, as i never really liked the wagon.

Ankamius, are you still scumreading skitter? maybe i'm tired but i can't tell right now.

This is probably a stretch, but these read to me like the deflation of scum watching both today and tomorrow's mislynches evaporating

Chara says they are happy I've dropped the push, but the whole post reads disappointed.

And remember, Chara was town reading me

even u2 is towny.

So why the long face?

Which slot besides skitter was pro-lynch on nmsa but didn't want to get on the wagon?

That slot is probably scum.

[tris]

VOTE: Nimueh

Anything to say about someone other than NMSA (Or I guess tictac)?

[Ankamius]

tictac might be a Brigitte-partner actually

ehhhhhhh

[Ankamius]

Afaik it's because "lurker SHRUG"

Do you think his ISO seems particularly scummy? I don’t didn’t find anything particularly pinging about it.

he's being pushed because he's an easy push

I haven't seen any evidence of otherwise, and even then my personal 'scumread' of him is a bit of a stretch that's dependent on my Brigitte scumread

sooooooooooooooo

[Nimueh]

VOTE: Nimueh

Anything to say about someone other than NMSA (Or I guess tictac)?

I’ve V/LA because I haven’t been feeling well, so no I’m not caught up yet but if this is your sole reason for for voting me, it isn’t a town one.

VOTE: Tris

[Nimueh]

Afaik it's because "lurker SHRUG"

Do you think his ISO seems particularly scummy? I don’t didn’t find anything particularly pinging about it.

he's being pushed because he's an easy push

I haven't seen any evidence of otherwise, and even then my personal 'scumread' of him is a bit of a stretch that's dependent on my Brigitte scumread

sooooooooooooooo

I think you’re probably town. I agree, tictac seems like mislynchbait.

[tris]

VOTE: Nimueh

Anything to say about someone other than NMSA (Or I guess tictac)?

I’ve V/LA because I haven’t been feeling well, so no I’m not caught up yet but if this is your sole reason for for voting me, it isn’t a town one.

VOTE: Tris

Alright, fair enough.
UNVOTE:

[tris]

Afaik it's because "lurker SHRUG"

Do you think his ISO seems particularly scummy? I don’t didn’t find anything particularly pinging about it.

he's being pushed because he's an easy push

I haven't seen any evidence of otherwise, and even then my personal 'scumread' of him is a bit of a stretch that's dependent on my Brigitte scumread

sooooooooooooooo

I think you’re probably town. I agree, tictac seems like mislynchbait.

Why do you think Ank is town?

[Nimueh]

Afaik it's because "lurker SHRUG"

Do you think his ISO seems particularly scummy? I don’t didn’t find anything particularly pinging about it.

he's being pushed because he's an easy push

I haven't seen any evidence of otherwise, and even then my personal 'scumread' of him is a bit of a stretch that's dependent on my Brigitte scumread

sooooooooooooooo

I think you’re probably town. I agree, tictac seems like mislynchbait.

Why do you think Ank is town?

Scum prey on easy lynchbaity players, so it’s townie to question that. I also agree with her as I don’t see why he’s scum. I think scum is probably on his wagon though.

[Nimueh]

It was hard to notice given that the sun was still directly overhead, but many of the lights weren't working as well.

Votecount 1.4

NotMySpamAccount (5):

u r a person 2 5, tris 62, tictac 67, Brigitte 144, Enter 207

skitter30 (2):

Chara 69, Bronson 259

Brigitte (1):

NotMySpamAccount 198

Enter (1):

xRECKONERx 82

Not voting (4):

Nimueh, Ankamius, skitter30 190, Flubbernugget 258

With 13 alive, it’s 7 to lynch. The Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2019-03-08 00:58:59).

Who is currently voting tictac that was on NMSA wagon? Unfortunately, there’s no VC for that.

[Ankamius]

urap2 and enter

[Nimueh]

Votecount 1.1

tictac(3)

~ u r a person 2(180), xRECKONERx(75), Enter(145)

Brigitte(2)

~ Elbirn(7), Chara(72)

Ankamius(2)

~ skitter30(116), Brigitte(94)

u r a person 2(1)

~ Flubbernugget(46)

NotMySpamAccount(1)

~ tictac(13)

Flubbernugget(1)

~ Ankamius(150)

Enter(1)

~ NotMySpamAccount(26)


Not Voting (2): Nimueh(4), tris(73)

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2019-03-08 00:58:59)

MOD REMINDERS

Nimueh needs a prod. The last post was at: 2/25/2019 4:00:00 AM which was 4 days 11 hours 9 minutes 17 seconds ago.

FLAVOR

This is an automated vote count generated by a tool written by MathBlade. It goes much smoother with exact votes but will try to detect bold votes and misspellings. If you have issues during this beta, please get MathBlade.

I think it's a good sign the thread is so active but we've got too many different wagons going for me to viable keep track of all of what's going on, so let's do this:

Everyone please post a reads list and a quick case for whoever your vote is on right now.

I'll be back tomorrow to catch up and do the same.

Are these all of the tictac votes?

[Enter]

Who is currently voting tictac that was on NMSA wagon? Unfortunately, there’s no VC for that.

There is, it's in my ISO.

I think everyone on tictac rn was on NMSA but I'm not certain, I know me, urap, reck were all on both wagons

[Enter]

VOTE: Nimueh

Anything to say about someone other than NMSA (Or I guess tictac)?

I’ve V/LA because I haven’t been feeling well, so no I’m not caught up yet but if this is your sole reason for for voting me, it isn’t a town one.

VOTE: Tris

I disagree pretty strongly, actually.

[Nimueh]

urap2 and enter

Can you tell me why Flubber is scum?

UNVOTE:

[Enter]

VOTE: Nimueh

Anything to say about someone other than NMSA (Or I guess tictac)?

I’ve V/LA because I haven’t been feeling well, so no I’m not caught up yet but if this is your sole reason for for voting me, it isn’t a town one.

VOTE: Tris

Alright, fair enough.
UNVOTE:

That was fast.

[Nimueh]

VOTE: Nimueh

Anything to say about someone other than NMSA (Or I guess tictac)?

I’ve V/LA because I haven’t been feeling well, so no I’m not caught up yet but if this is your sole reason for for voting me, it isn’t a town one.

VOTE: Tris

I disagree pretty strongly, actually.

If she had stayed on me for that reason, I’d be right.

[Enter]

VOTE: Nimueh

Anything to say about someone other than NMSA (Or I guess tictac)?

I’ve V/LA because I haven’t been feeling well, so no I’m not caught up yet but if this is your sole reason for for voting me, it isn’t a town one.

VOTE: Tris

I disagree pretty strongly, actually.

If she had stayed on me for that reason, I’d be right.

Considering gamestate right now, you'd be wrong. Just quick check, what's going on right now that would make her vote on you super relevant?

[Enter]

I can think of two reasons right now why Nimueh s reaction to tris is bad, and one of them I know she knows the answer to.

[Enter]

VOTE: nimueh