Mini Normal 2058 (Endgame)

[Shoshin]

Why did you say earlier that you had no familiarity with Vorkuta?

[Shoshin]

Look at Vorkuta's play here: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=78012

The difference is stark. He's so towny there compared with this game.

[Morality]

Look at Vorkuta's play here: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=78012

The difference is stark. He's so towny there compared with this game.

Are you trying to state the team is Boats/Vorkuta?

[Shoshin]

not sure how you find his tone here similar to his town games.

I didn't say that.

Expand on your thought process. This is what I'm getting right now: "Vorkuta's play looks different from his play as town, but his tone is townish enough that he's my top townread, regardless of the meta difference." Is that correct? And you're saying his tone is towny because newb scum can't fake his tone? What about his tone can't be faked? Give me examples.

[Shoshin]

Look at Vorkuta's play here: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=78012

The difference is stark. He's so towny there compared with this game.

Are you trying to state the team is Boats/Vorkuta?

I'm trying to figure out if Boats is actually scumhunting or making stuff up.

[Morality]

Shoshin is deflecting.

Vorkuta comes off as towny to me here too, I’m just looking past tone onto the agenda side.

I understand how people can think Vorkuta’s reaction to RC and Myself was townie, that’s why it was done.

That allowed him not to pick a side. That and then COA.

Shoshin distancing here makes me feel I could have been wrong to lean scum vorkuta, but then that brings me back to just thinking Shoshin’s distancing on purpose.

I’m a little conflicted right now

[Yachting n Socializing]

Why did you say earlier that you had no familiarity with Vorkuta?

I don't think I said this, but I know why I might've implied it.

Look at Vorkuta's play here: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=78012

The difference is stark. He's so towny there compared with this game.

...
lmao
I was in that game

not sure how you find his tone here similar to his town games.

I didn't say that.

Expand on your thought process. This is what I'm getting right now: "Vorkuta's play looks different from his play as town, but his tone is townish enough that he's my top townread, regardless of the meta difference." Is that correct? And you're saying his tone is towny because newb scum can't fake his tone? What about his tone can't be faked? Give me examples.

I did give you examples, and that's not what I said.

[Morality]

PEdit:
@Shoshin
that’s fair, I guess.

[Not Known 15]

Dr.Dolittle

has been modkilled.

They were:

Spoiler:

Modkilled

Abilities:End Day Town:If you were town before, the day ends when you die.
Win Condition:You compromised your former identity so you can't win.

They were originally:

Spoiler:

Town Neighbor

Modifiers:Neighbor:You are part of a Neighborhood:[REDACTED]. You may talk at any time.
Win Conditions:
You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive

(or nothing can prevent the same)

.

Night 2 begins. It will end in (expired on 2019-03-02 23:20:00)

.

[Not Known 15]

Shoshin has been replaced by Something_Smart
RadiantCowbells has been replaced by Dunnstral.

[Not Known 15]

Creature

has died. They were:

Spoiler:

Town Neighbor Night 1 Cop

Abilities:
Investigate: Each night phase, you may target one player in the game to investigate them. You will receive a result of "Town", "Anti-town", or "No Result".
Night 1:You can only use your role on Night 1.
Neighbor:You are part of a Neighborhood:[REDACTED]. You may talk at any time.

Day 3 begins. It will end in (expired on 2019-03-10 05:00:00) or when a lynch has been achieved.

Vote Count 3.0

YellowSnow(0)

Something_Smart

Shoshin

(0)

Dunnstral

RadiantCowbells

(0)

Aurathebirb

(0)

Morality

u r a person 2

(0)

Vorkuta(0)

Boats n Hoes(0)

JohnnyEnglish

Vedith

Sniperlyfe77

(0)

Tarkus(0)

No Lynch(0)

Not Voting(9)Vorkuta;Tarkus;YellowSnow;

Aurathebirb

;Boats n Hoes;Morality;Something_Smart;Dunnstral;JohnnyEnglish;

With 9 alive it is 5 to lynch.

[Not Known 15]

JohnnyEnglish is getting replaced.

[Something_Smart]

VOTE: Morality
Doesn't matter what he was before. My presence in this game has retroactively turned his role PM red.

[Yachting n Socializing]

VOTE: Dunnstral

[Morality]

VOTE: Morality
Doesn't matter what he was before. My presence in this game has retroactively turned his role PM red.

I’m conf town through RCE.

[Morality]

Even your previous slot realized that before the end of day. Was that fake of her?

[Something_Smart]

No, but it could have been wrong. I don't see any evidence that RCE targeted you other than that he scumread you.

Kind of annoyed he didn't think to crumb his target in the neighborhood right before the night ended.

[Morality]

No, but it could have been wrong. I don't see any evidence that RCE targeted you other than that he scumread you.

Kind of annoyed he didn't think to crumb his target in the neighborhood right before the night ended.

He did. The scum reading was a crumb. RCE knows what he’s doing.

I thought the Shoshin replace out was town indicative. RC replaced out because of Shoshin, but your push makes me feel like you’re tunneling because you feel you have to because you thought I was going to come in and push you.

[Morality]

I also don’t pigeonhole myself into a claim, and you know that, like I have here.

[Morality]

In his last 9 posts, RCE mentions me 6 times. Even said “Morality/Creature/third” is likely”

Meaning he was targeting myself or Creature.

If I were scum, I’d have died.

[Yachting n Socializing]

No, but it could have been wrong. I don't see any evidence that RCE targeted you other than that he scumread you.

Kind of annoyed he didn't think to crumb his target in the neighborhood right before the night ended.

It is very likely RCE targeted Morality, he was his main scum read for the majority of the day.

[Yachting n Socializing]

{Aura, Boats}
{Vorkuta, Creature}
{DDL}
{Morality}
{Shoshin, Tarkus}
{Johnny}
{Snow}
{RC}

I maintain this solve. It also fits with the theory theres 1 more scum in the hood if you prescribe to that, as a way for traitor to communicate (the remaining people in the hood are Johnny replacement and Tarkus). That said, Snow is the most likely RC partner and probably where I go next.

[Something_Smart]

I don't know RCE well enough to say that he wouldn't try to out-WIFOM the scum and target someone he wasn't hard scumreading. Not to mention that you claimed ascetic...

Also Boon you seem to have completely overlooked the humor in my vote There was more than a grain of seriousness in it but it was not completely serious. (And I don't think I've tunneled anybody in two years.)

[Yachting n Socializing]

I don't know RCE well enough to say that he wouldn't try to out-WIFOM the scum and target someone he wasn't hard scumreading. Not to mention that you claimed ascetic...

Also Boon you seem to have completely overlooked the humor in my vote There was more than a grain of seriousness in it but it was not completely serious. (And I don't think I've tunneled anybody in two years.)

His role yields no results, literally just kills scum. There isnt even a hypothetical reason I can think of to not target his top scum read. WIFOM doesnt matter with this role.

[Yachting n Socializing]

And yesterday, I did mention Boon being Ascetic invalidates that, but otherwise he's conf town.