Mini 2059: Secrets of the Anuket Topaz [Over]

[NotMySpamAccount]

Nim and Brig are scum. At least one of Enter and Ank are town. I'll willingly wagon Nim or Brig at any point.

unfortunately nothing you're scumreading nim for is ai
(not that i know how to read either but yeah)
i'm undecided wrt brig atm

scumreading nim for refusing to do what I asked, despite making it clear that I would continue to scumread

[Chara]

1146: i really dislike nmsa's vote on Nimueh here. the timing seems opportunistic, he just sort of swoops in amid a threeway argument and votes the weakest player in it.

[skitter30]

enter & brigitte being on the same side of things makes this REALLY easy for me

p.edit: i tried to make one fucking post and she immediately snapped back with another jab about me not reading the game
zero good faith
she's welcome to put the first foot forward and try not being a total twat

i don't think enter is scum here tbh

[Chara]

Okay. Gonna townread you now.

boooo.
why.

[skitter30]

Yes, I become accountable for not dying later in the game and for having to either keep up the town leader persona or to find a way to 'apathy out' of that role.

This way I don't have to do any of that lol

P sure this is nightless as of RN, and "not dying" is a pretty silly excuse to lynch a town member.

No deadlines mafia we kept Nancy alive even though she was strong town because she was pocketed by the entire scum team.

well yeah

I'd also have the burden of making sure that kind of argument is the first thing people think of when they ask why I'm still alive rather than "oh they're a deepwolf"

ngl one of the reasons why i'm fine townbinning you for now is because i figure that if you're scum it'll probably become obvious if you never die (i guess i keep forgetting that the game is nightless rn so maybe this isn't the best idea)

[skitter30]

I have more to say on that and how my fundamental thought process as town works and WHY I've gone this specific route for this specific situation, but I'm pretty certain it'll just get written off as self meta so I'll just stop here and leave the thread for a while

i'd be interested in hearing this, when you get back

[Brigitte]

Okay. Gonna townread you now.

boooo.
why.

Seemed like a pretty sincere post to me. Don't think you would be as likely to be posting as scum. And could see you are actually upset over the scumreads versus your alignment.

[NotMySpamAccount]

Nimueh is refusing to answer questions, is claiming that Enter is misrepping, and is in fact doing the same thing. Back up your claims with evidence instead of strawmanning. Nimueh is scum.

VOTE: Nimueh

No but you’re probably something I won’t say.

I already did. Do I keep having to spam the thread with the post where I already answered his question, despite him insisting otherwise?

I might be more likely to take it back if you quoted both his question and your answer, to make it clear that you did in fact do so. If you do not, I will continue to assume you are scum.

I’d rather deal with your post directly, if that’s okay with you. From what I’ve gathered, Enter seems to be of the false impression that I’m seeking a free pass for being sick and think that should somehow make me immune from votes, which is something I’ve never even suggested. He misconstrued

repeatedly

my explanation about my reasoning for initially voting Tris. What I said was I didn’t think it was townie, if it was the SOLE reason for her vote and she agreed and unvoted me. I’m happy to continue to address your concerns but I can’t deal with someone who continues to misrep me and twist my words, which is why I’d rather respond to you, than Enter.

Specifically this is the big problem. It's not okay with me. I said so. You didn't do what I asked. Nim is scum.

[Chara]

i'm not scumreading Nimueh at all. Enter keeps calling Nim's play crappy but it does suck to be pushed for said crappy play when you're sick and can't parse such a big game.
i don't know if i'm townreading Nim either but pushing a player who isn't even settled and is asking for help just isn't going to go anywhere in my opinion.

pedit: Nim didn't like being voted solely on activity. tris backed off because the vote was obviously about only Nim's activity. what's the problem.

[Brigitte]

Nim is leaning scum for me after reading ISO, but basically none of the reasons that NMSA has given. Nor Enter (I think? Need to reread his reasons).

Need to flesh out my thoughts on it at some point because its not sorted out completely.

[Chara]

Seemed like a pretty sincere post to me. Don't think you would be as likely to be posting as scum. And could see you are actually upset over the scumreads versus your alignment.

okay, i guess that's fine, thanks for the answer.

i'm interested in your reasons for Nim scum. i don't like Enter or nmsa's cases either, but a player being voted for a reason i don't like doesn't necessarily make them town, though it's easy to think that.

[Chara]

P.edit. What part of I’m feeling nauseous did you also not read? Yes, fair, when I don’t feel like constantly throwing up, I do play better. Good job.

Is English your second language?

Is it your tenth?

both of these posts are rather mean-spirited but i laughed audibly here and i wanted to say so. sorry.

[NotMySpamAccount]

Nim is leaning scum for me after reading ISO, but basically none of the reasons that NMSA has given. Nor Enter (I think? Need to reread his reasons).

Need to flesh out my thoughts on it at some point because its not sorted out completely.

How To Agree With a Read For Towncred Without Supporting the Player Accurately Scumreading You 101.

[skitter30]

last game was my second game with you. this is my third. last game i didn't have the evidence i have now that yes, you're great to work with and i want to do that, but trying to do so has you paranoid of me so i'm not sure why i bothered. and that's not on you but it is frustrating, because i simply don't think it's possible for you to have a good view of the game if i'm your only actual scumread. and for what reason? it's paranoia and you acknowledge it's paranoia.

sorry :/
i don't really know how to turn the paranoia on or off, it just kinda is.

idk maybe i should just ignore the paranoia for a bit and see what happens if i just kinda like acknowledge it now and then let it be and re-assess in a couple of days? because if you're town i *do* want to work with you i guess i just don't know how to get over this really and i don't know how or why i townread you last game either so i can't really use that method for this game; the townread just kinda appeared one day

and yeah i don't think i have super great reads rn in a general sense, since i'm townreading most of the active posters rn and this game doesn't quite feel like there's a lurker scumteam tbh

rn i townread: urap2-slot, reck, enter, and ank
do you disagree with any of those?

the main active poster rn that i'm not sure about is brig. i don't like the way she's interacting with people and i want to scumread her for it but i'm not sure if she's what she's doing is actually scummy so idk

also can you talk about your flubber read a bit more?

[Brigitte]

Nim is leaning scum for me after reading ISO, but basically none of the reasons that NMSA has given. Nor Enter (I think? Need to reread his reasons).

Need to flesh out my thoughts on it at some point because its not sorted out completely.

How To Agree With a Read For Towncred Without Supporting the Player Accurately Scumreading You 101.

They really need to make that class have a shorter name.

[Chara]

But the real question you should be asking yourself is why are you so hellbent on playing this badly and why are you refusing to do anything other than wrongly call me scum?

I keep begging people to engage me, to help me get into this game and yes, you 100% should feel embarrassed about your awful play here because you aren’t even trying to examine any other slots but if I get mislynched, you will be forced to.

this is really hard to scumread. i don't think Nim's responses have been amazing but i can understand why they feel this way and it doesn't look at all like purposely dodging questions.

[NotMySpamAccount]

Nim is leaning scum for me after reading ISO, but basically none of the reasons that NMSA has given. Nor Enter (I think? Need to reread his reasons).

Need to flesh out my thoughts on it at some point because its not sorted out completely.

How To Agree With a Read For Towncred Without Supporting the Player Accurately Scumreading You 101.

They really need to make that class have a shorter name.

Okay. Scum 101.

[Brigitte]

Nim is leaning scum for me after reading ISO, but basically none of the reasons that NMSA has given. Nor Enter (I think? Need to reread his reasons).

Need to flesh out my thoughts on it at some point because its not sorted out completely.

How To Agree With a Read For Towncred Without Supporting the Player Accurately Scumreading You 101.

They really need to make that class have a shorter name.

Okay. Scum 101.

I thought this was an elective?!
Scum 101 is a required course.

[skitter30]

still catching up. still liking Flubber, especially in 1123. i'll admit i don't have the best awareness of the full gamestate but Flubber doesn't feel like he has a lot of support or is really "in" a group, which i like for town more than scum.

huh
in the last game i played with flubber (jingle's game) scum!me was gearing up to get him mislynched and ddj actually used this exact reason for why he was town and for arguing against it
a lot of flubber's posts are like bad in the sense that they make poor optics, but i'm not sure that's actually scummy; i do overall get the vibe that he actually believes in what he's saying tho

[NotMySpamAccount]

Nim is leaning scum for me after reading ISO, but basically none of the reasons that NMSA has given. Nor Enter (I think? Need to reread his reasons).

Need to flesh out my thoughts on it at some point because its not sorted out completely.

How To Agree With a Read For Towncred Without Supporting the Player Accurately Scumreading You 101.

They really need to make that class have a shorter name.

Okay. Scum 101.

I thought this was an elective?!
Scum 101 is a required course.

It's required for you.

[Chara]

rn i townread: urap2-slot, reck, enter, and ank
do you disagree with any of those?

the main active poster rn that i'm not sure about is brig. i don't like the way she's interacting with people and i want to scumread her for it but i'm not sure if she's what she's doing is actually scummy so idk

also can you talk about your flubber read a bit more?

i don't know about Flubber, i've been asked about him a lot and answered every time. i can't think of what else to say on it beyond "he's towny".
why do you find him scummy, then?

i'm also not sure about brigitte. i don't hate the approach to me, though.

i don't disagree with any of your townreads. i did dislike how u2 responded to the Nim vs. Enter fight in a vacuum but i haven't looked at his play as a whole regarding that. but definitely agree on Enter. Ank and Reck are less strong.


i don't find it unlikely this is a lurker scumteam. remember coalition? i was freaking out about there having to be scum somewhere in the townreads and... no. none of the scum were really townread. and my paranoia had me wanting scum Gamma in the coalition.

[skitter30]

yeah i remember coalition, and i'm aware that sometimes it's just lurker scum; it definitely does happen
i don't know why but my gut is telling me that this isn't the case here

there's almost too much conflict happening amongst the active posters for it to be entirely town-facilitated if that makes sense

[Brigitte]

I reread Nimuh ISO three times just see if I could sort this out. And all I am getting is something seems off about the interactions between her and Enter. Not sure what is sending of flags here.

[Chara]

a lot of flubber's posts are like bad in the sense that they make poor optics, but i'm not sure that's actually scummy; i do overall get the vibe that he actually believes in what he's saying tho

i do think there's a few things Flubber should be considering but isn't (regarding u2 for example) but the scum motivation isn't there for me.

[Chara]

there's almost too much conflict happening amongst the active posters for it to be entirely town-facilitated if that makes sense

perhaps i have an overly negative view of ms towns, but i'm pretty sure if you stuck a group of players in a game and gave all of them town PMs, they would rip each other's heads off.