Mini Normal 2058 (Endgame)

[Something_Smart]

Hey Dunn

We made this mistake together and we're going to regret it together

[Yachting n Socializing]

So what reads do you have? I had Morality and RC as a solve at one point and Morality as scum for all of d1, now I'm at RC > Snow > Vedithslot > Tarkus > Morality > your slot (via replacement) > Vorkuta in terms of lynch order

are you going to read the rest of the game?

@SS

[Something_Smart]

Oh uh

I don't really like you or Morality

I think I like YellowSnow?

Still have somewhat of a feeling that the neighbors are town but I probably am not keyed in to the gamestate enough for that judgement.

[Morality]

I only roll town so I don't have a scum game

Thanks for the neighborhood info- now next question: was it actually used/did any productive discussion take place in there or...?
Also is it worth asking about PRs and any night actions right now?

No clue. We didn’t get to hear much about it.

[Morality]

Oh uh

I don't really like you or Morality

I think I like YellowSnow?

Still have somewhat of a feeling that the neighbors are town but I probably am not keyed in to the gamestate enough for that judgement.

To be fair, you and Dunn have the misfortune of replacing the slots that was essentially a hardcore 2v2.

Which is funny considering how annoyed I was with Boats early game.

[Aurathebirb]

uwu guess I should post in this

Hopefully less to read now at least

I need some coffee

Feel like looking at CoA's posts mostly, and I guess look if anyone acted in a way that would imply they knew about a traitor.

Spoiler:

I know who you are Boon

And then I got my role pm.

Side note, I like how we’re not voting. I’m totally down to not have an RVS this game, and just start voting when it’s time to vote.

No.

VOTE: RadiantCowbells

scumclaim

VOTE: Shoshin

Good. Radiant's obviously town.

VOTE: Morality

Nevermind she's town

So why are you voting her?

RCEnigma and Vedith lean scum. Morality lean scum + needs to die, so more votes here please

These are all pretty bad. Especially the second one is such a flimsy question to ask someone. I don't feel like there's a real depth of thought here, which actually does make me hesitate on calling it scumposting. The only reason I can see up to this point for scumreading Vedith is the "I was scared of getting a vote on me". The RCEnigma scumread for not voting seems similarly level 0. It's just... none of those things are scummy, and this account pings alt a lot harder than it pings "newbie who scumreads the most basic things".

Scumlean.

I do think this post reads bad for Boats. Wouldn't really read it one way or the other based on it being the first real post by CoA. But it just seems like CoA isn't trying to get Boats into real trouble.

CoA is particularly harsh on Boats in other posts. But again, not in a way that suggests CoA actually wants him lynched. I'd suggest others take a look at the Boats - CoA interactions.

those words are put together but i don't think they actually add up to anything

what's your read on me and what's your read on morality

No real read on either of you yet as far as I've read.

I think this interaction looks good from an RC perspective.

CoA reads Vorkuta as town. Doesn't really justify that much, which inclines me to believe that Vork leans town.

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Athena what do I do to make this a game that you want to invest your time and energy into?

Just let me do my thing.

VOTE: roomy

I played scum with yellow in a recent game AMA

Um... what's your read on him? You don't seem to actually say it despite making a comment like 286.

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Interested to hear about the roomy scumread, RC. His entrance has a few posts that ping town but I'm hesitant to take that to townread him.

Vote: Tarkus

Is this odd? I mean it kind of looks it but I'm not sure.

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Interactions with YS fairly null. And YS hasn't stopped doing the main thing people scum read him for so I think he's town now.

COA, why are you voting Tarkus? Do you find any similarities between his play here and the recent game you played where he was scum?

~Reasons~.

To be serious, yes. That last game he lurked / skated through – although I intended to push him multiple times throughout the game, townies doing outrageous things consistently prevented him from ever truly being scrutinized. I don't intend to let the same thing happen again when he's playing fairly similarly and fairly scummy.

I'm gonna go with no for now.

CoA moves off Boats later on.

Pretty much caught up.

Preferred vote today is DDL or Tarkus. Vedith I don't consider a bad vote, but I don't really know how to read him.

I think CoA would have genuinely accepted a Tarkus lynch? But its also listed with DDL, who is known town. Feels like it would've been natural to put a scummy in these 3.

Also noticeably, the Boats scum read has mysteriously vanished. Was this ever brought up?

I'm not asking you to sheep me, RC – you don't have to drop your Vedith vote. If

you're

confident in something there then I want to hear it exactly

because

I don't really know how to read Vedith.


Boats – is this another one of your "experimental alts", then?

Think Vedith is town, but not confident.

Have good reason to vote Boats here. Unless I missed something. But he does look like someone pretending to be town. Just taking the easy opinions on things.

I slightly question why Creature was killed? Need to think about that a bit.

Regarding RCE's rolecard - what does informed mean?

I do agree that Morality was the most likely target. And it would make sense for a player with that role to make it obvious who they were going for.

Having trouble keeping track of all these replacements.

[Aurathebirb]

VOTE: Boats and Hoes

Hi

[Vorkuta]

-btw why was I scum read in D2 as a result of CoA's ISO?... like... I couldn't keep up with the next level logic coming from RC

-the wiki says that the "mod" basically gives extra information about something to the player, but it's redacted upon flip.
So the only way we'll find out what the extra "informed" information was is... postgame?

[Yachting n Socializing]

Please do not be terrible Aura. Thank you.

[Yachting n Socializing]

-btw why was I scum read in D2 as a result of CoA's ISO?... like... I couldn't keep up with the next level logic coming from RC

Because he is scum and was opening the lynch pool

-the wiki says that the "mod" basically gives extra information about something to the player, but it's redacted upon flip.
So the only way we'll find out what the extra "informed" information was is... postgame?

Yes, this is generally how informed roles flip. For example, his role could state "you are informed that a member of the scum team is a doctor".

[Morality]

You think COA was pushing her partners as scum? I was thinking more of the opposite, like she was towning them.

[Aurathebirb]

Nice omgus

Seems like a pretty legit reasoning to me.

[Aurathebirb]

Who exclusively town reads scum buddies? Thatd just make games easy

[Something_Smart]

Well as a traitor you need to make sure they don't NK you...

[Something_Smart]

And if your buddies get lynched no matter how townread you are you still lose.

[Morality]

Who exclusively town reads scum buddies? Thatd just make games easy

I’m not saying that’s what she was doing, but she was a traitor.

I’ve never been traitor, but that’s how I’d probably play it. Normal games traitors are unreceuirable, so they have to not get killed off by their own scum team.

[Morality]

And Creature died because he was a claimed “useless” PR who made it semi obvious he was an investigative Day 2.

[Yachting n Socializing]

you irritate me

[Something_Smart]

I mean, I would hard bus my scum buddies and then get myself lynched and let them coast to endgame on the interactions, but that's just me having no faith in my scumgame

[Morality]

I mean, I would hard bus my scum buddies and then get myself lynched and let them coast to endgame on the interactions, but that's just me having no faith in my scumgame

As traitor?

UnaBombah did that, and I ended up catching out 2 of his other scum buddies to take out the mafia team from the game.

The game was later won by 3rd party...

[Morality]

I don’t think COA plays that game with a player like RC here.

[Morality]

I also don’t think Boats keeps the Shoshin/RC/Me alive, even if he’s part of the duo. Me because in a way, I think I protect him, so keeping me alive makes sense.

But he isn’t even trying to mislynch me, which I don’t think comes from scum

[Morality]

-btw why was I scum read in D2 as a result of CoA's ISO?... like... I couldn't keep up with the next level logic coming from RC

-the wiki says that the "mod" basically gives extra information about something to the player, but it's redacted upon flip.
So the only way we'll find out what the extra "informed" information was is... postgame?

I felt like COA’s partners were in her town reads, and your reaction to RC vs Me being TvT.

I think I want Tarkus today, but I need to do more work to make sure.

[Vorkuta]

>everyone town reads me
"ok it's fine"
>CoA townreads me
"we caught teh scum partners!!11!1!1"

Unfortunately I visited D2 a bit too late to comment/defend myself and now that's kind of moot with RC replacing out, but I'm still curious.
Boats's explanation of "scum!RC expanding the lynchpool" really hits home with me though.

[Aurathebirb]

Tarkus who was CoA's biggest scum read? She actually tried to kill him sort of

Boats did try to mislynch you when he had the means to push you. He can't now.

I don't see the flip flopping RC did near the end of day one as very scum aligned