Mini Normal 2058 (Endgame)

[Vorkuta]

So is everyone that CoA wanted to push automatically cleared now?

[Ankamius]

Okay so, I'm assuming that I'm formally replacing into the JohnnyEnglish slot since I have the role PM despite it not being formally announced in thread yet.

In which case, what is the easiest way to get a foothold into the game? What parts are the easiest to get reads from or what parts of the game need another opinion?

[Not Known 15]

Ankamius replaces JohnnyEnglish

[Morality]

Tarkus who was CoA's biggest scum read? She actually tried to kill him sort of

Boats did try to mislynch you when he had the means to push you. He can't now.

I don't see the flip flopping RC did near the end of day one as very scum aligned

I disagree that she tried to kill him.

This game had RC, so without heavy pushing, unless RC decided that was the path, it wasn’t gonna happen. And COA didn’t try to make that happen.

@Vorkuta - Nah. Technically they’re right, and COA could have pushed her teammates, but I still lean towards her town reading based on her scum pushes not looking like how a traitor acts towards her teammates.

[Morality]

Okay so, I'm assuming that I'm formally replacing into the JohnnyEnglish slot since I have the role PM despite it not being formally announced in thread yet.

In which case, what is the easiest way to get a foothold into the game? What parts are the easiest to get reads from or what parts of the game need another opinion?

Majority of this game was a giant 2v2 feud of RC-Shoshin vs Boats-Morality. I’m Boon/FL.

[Morality]

COA’s also a flipped traitor from Day 1 who RC wasn’t pushing as conf scum, then when the push started, he flipped, and Shoshin/RC shot at it for a bit when Shoshin tried to move RC off of COA.

There’s probably a scum in there

[Ankamius]

Ok

So I'm just going to assume that entire feud is a fuckton of dickwagging and nothing else.

What are the other fragments of the game and where is the best place among those to start from?

[Morality]

Ok

So I'm just going to assume that entire feud is a fuckton of dickwagging and nothing else.

What are the other fragments of the game and where is the best place among those to start from?

Normally, I would agree, but I believe there to be scum on that side, and normally these feuds are more TvT.

Mm, COA flipped traitor, so that’s where we’re at right now. Looking for potential clues.

Not much else is going on.

[Ankamius]

Mmmmmmm

I'll look through that's slots' ISO then and see if I can't find any hints

[Aurathebirb]

Day 2 probably not too interesting. Idk what the important bits would be. Probably after the CoA lynch starts.

I neglected to mention it, but I did have another reason to find the Boats - CoA interactions weird.

I think CoA is town

Page 18 has some weird shit going on I s2g

I do think Vorkuta might be worth looking at, now that I think about it. The MOR most town read person has turned out to be scum before in my games...

[Morality]

That implies Boats knew COA was traitor by that time, though.

[Morality]

Spoiler:

have your vote down on somebody day 1/2

Literally only 3 people (boats=you, RC, and shoshin) have their votes cast as of now. Are the other people here not doing their "duty"?
No: they're playing their own game, and hopefully stuff will get done in due time.

Don't be intimidated Vorkuta, they aren't Demi gods.

You mean... they CAN'T predict my every move????

No I'd just like to get the bare minimum insight necessary for every player here to be able to somehow process them- like for example who is this RC fellow that has an entire meme copypasta dedicated to him, how does he play scum, and what do other people here have to say about his townplay?

And Vorkuta’s a strong player

Stop pocketing me REEEEEE

Townread affirmed.

I think 12 of the players here are strong players.

Ouch. No need to call me out like this.

Pretty sure Vorkuta's town, RC.

Towny pop in from Shoshin.

Spoiler:

No I'd just like to get the bare minimum insight necessary for every player here to be able to somehow process them- like for example who is this RC fellow that has an entire meme copypasta dedicated to him, how does he play scum, and what do other people here have to say about his townplay?

RC is a player who used to be very good at town and scum, and then wasn't as good at town but was still good as scum. Also, very combative, and this has led to him rage quitting and/or being banned multiple times.

Boon is a player who lies a lot as town. Also can be very combative, have not seen him quit or be banned personally but have a lot less experience with him. He, like RC, is better as scum.

Creature is terrible at scum and generally lurks out, you can generally read him by post count and motivation (is he enjoying the game? probably not scum. is he lurking a lot? probably not town. etc) Not a good look for him so far, but he's going to be an easy read so there's no point voting there now. The game has only been open under a day, after all. His reads are hit or miss but are generally pretty good, so support him if he's town telling as he lacks any charisma and people generally just ignore his above average reads.

I know CoA is a pretty good player, and I've heard the names Vedith / Shoshin, but that's it as far as my knowledge of this playerlist.


As for voting: they're being dumb. Voting is how the game progresses, and if you're a VT it is literally your only power. You know how in elections people always say "your vote is your voice" and yell at young adults for not using their right to vote? Its the same concept. This is more theory talk at this point and I'm going to drop it after this post, but seriously, I have extreme distaste for townies who don't play fast and loose with their vote early on. Not as much theory talk: scum are more likely to sit on vanity wagons, and scum are more likely to be static with their vote.

I town read your entrance, and your posts after have felt genuine. Don't sweat about how experienced we all are.

See, the meta case and posts like 141 made me wonder if I could be wrong on the Alt thing, but that's clearly not the case.

Thank you, by the way. I know I haven't exactly been cordial so far... but it's simply in-game. Nothing personal.

i am the real RC

you can be RCE

How about he's RC and you can be RadCow?

Anyways, did you ever explain the RCE vote here? Control + F in your ISO didn't really bring anything up.

This is the post that makes me think it’s Vorkuta/Shoshin.

[Something_Smart]

Ank it would be great if you could give a general summary of what's been said in the neighborhood.

(Obviously, don't quote anything... )

[Ankamius]

idk, for the amount of people that had access to it, it's remarkably useless

like 90% of the posts are either fluff or trying to sort the neighborhood to find the scum within it

there isn't even 4 full pages in there

[Tarkus]

Creature posted in the hood Night 2 that he was prob going to be killed and that RC should be today's lynch unless BnH is an Eddie Cane alt, in which case that would be a better choice. Is BnH = Eddie Cane?

[Yachting n Socializing]

Yes, I am.

[Ankamius]

oh hey what's up

[Tarkus]

Kk why does that change a suggested lynch order?

[Tarkus]

Howdy neighbor, what do you think of lynching the RC slot?

[Yachting n Socializing]

oh hey what's up

hey hi

i have more to say for you a bit later

[Ankamius]

tarkus idk

I honestly haven't read anything other than the posts since I replaced in and skimming the neighborhood

I'm not sure about the RC-slot since I historically have trouble reading him :V

[Yachting n Socializing]

Kk why does that change a suggested lynch order?

Because RC is scummy and Creature has played with him enough to know that, but he is scared of my scum game is my best guess. He was voting RC with me yesterday so who knows

[Yachting n Socializing]

Who exclusively town reads scum buddies? Thatd just make games easy

I do think this post reads bad for Boats. Wouldn't really read it one way or the other based on it being the first real post by CoA. But it just seems like CoA isn't trying to get Boats into real trouble.

CoA is particularly harsh on Boats in other posts. But again, not in a way that suggests CoA actually wants him lynched. I'd suggest others take a look at the Boats - CoA interactions.

I've never got why people post about shit they don't understand. Traitor is not the same as being full scum, and a competent player like nsg would not shade her partners. There is no time it is the right play. I can make this a big theory rant if you want, or I can just say this and you can accept it as fact. You commenting on how she's "particularly harsh on [me]" is a blinking light that I'm town, there is no gain for a traitor to discredit their partners. It is all risk no reward. The following two posts from SS are also reasons.

Also noticeably, the Boats scum read has mysteriously vanished. Was this ever brought up?

She also didn't mention a couple slots, or ever list me as scum. Her not picking up on who's alt I am is a lot of what made me click into the right read on her.

I think I want Tarkus today

No, we are lynching RC slot.

Boats did try to mislynch you when he had the means to push you. He can't now.

You kidding?

I don't see the flip flopping RC did near the end of day one as very scum aligned

It wasn't flip flopping...

[Tarkus]

tarkus idk

I honestly haven't read anything other than the posts since I replaced in and skimming the neighborhood

I'm not sure about the RC-slot since I historically have trouble reading him :V

Gotcha, well he only posted 750 times so it's not too much work to comb through

I'm feeling RC/Dunn > Vedith/Ank > YellowSnow > Vork

[Yachting n Socializing]

Ok

So I'm just going to assume that entire feud is a fuckton of dickwagging and nothing else.

What are the other fragments of the game and where is the best place among those to start from?

Basic tldr of events from memory

I thought Morality was scum -> push Morality

Nobody listens to me -> I drop it

Morality starts pushing Shoshin -> reciprocated, I don't remember the exact turn of events as Shoshin was lurky and not a very big presence

I call RC possible scum + refuse to sheep him on his read blindly -> RC says he had me as town as a gambit (?), it was a fake read and he thinks I'm scum

RC backs off NSG suddenly and starts pushing elsewhere -> I reread NSG, decide she's probably scum for a couple reasons, vote there

Morality hammers NSG -> RC and I feud in twilight with Shoshin and Morality in and out

NSG flips traitor, day 2 begins, RC declares that Morality and I aren't partners but one of us probably is, votes me then says nvm its Morality and votes there -> I push RC back and say no my guy, fuck off, you're scum
&
RCE flips disloyal babysitter (LMAO @mod) and strongly hinted Morality was his target -> Morality proved to be very likely town

Shoshin starts asking about my Vorkuta read (which I maintain) -> godkill

Shoshin replaces out after a few posts saying not to godkill over it -> slot spewed town