Mini Normal 2058 (Endgame)

[Something_Smart]

I usually play fairly straightforwardly, but I'm not a one-dimensional player.

[Yachting n Socializing]

I did not interfere

[Morality]

Claiming interfere puts a night kill target on your head.

[Morality]

We don’t want a protective to out themselves.

[YellowSnow]

Smart what do you mean by playing straitforwardly

[Something_Smart]

I just mean that I'm not really volatile or irrational.

[Not Known 15]

Vote Count 3.3

YellowSnow(0)

Something_Smart

Shoshin

(0)

Dunnstral

RadiantCowbells

(0)

Aurathebirb

(0)

Morality

u r a person 2

(0)

Vorkuta(1)YellowSnow;

Boats n Hoes(1)

Aurathebirb

;

Ankamius

JohnnyEnglish

Vedith

Sniperlyfe77

(0)

Tarkus(1)Dunnstral;

No Lynch(0)

Not Voting(6)Vorkuta;Tarkus;Morality;JohnnyEnglish;Boats n Hoes;Something_Smart;

With 9 alive it is 5 to lynch.

Day 3 will end in (expired on 2019-03-10 05:00:00) or when a lynch has been achieved.

[Yachting n Socializing]

Ank, SS, Dunn, how is reading the thread going?

[Yachting n Socializing]

VLA for 1 week, I will be able to post a bit but work + school is too much atm

[Something_Smart]

I don't know how much that would really help right now. Unless anyone claims to have interfered, we lynch Morality, and then maybe I will do some reading after seeing his flip.

[Yachting n Socializing]

I'm just waiting for claims to roll in, and I'll reply to your / Ank stuff about RC when I have more time than quick pop in posts (hopefully tonight) but that hinges on you reading. It is ... interesting ... Dunn chose to vote Tarkus (?) over either of the 1v1 or myself.

[Tarkus]

I did not interfere

[Dunnstral]

I don't know why you think I should be voting you Boats

SS, why are you so sure you weren't blocked by scum

[Yachting n Socializing]

I don't know why you think I should be voting you Boats

SS, why are you so sure you weren't blocked by scum

When tunnelled, town moreso but also people in general tend to react with voting back aka omgus - 2697 also sounds like shading my slot. It is intriguing that you didn't choose to vote in SS / Morality nor myself, the three "easiest" choices for either alignment!you.

[Dunnstral]

It's not shading your slot and I disagree it looks liek such

Don't put words in my mouth

I don't care what other people do

[Yachting n Socializing]

- RC had a very small scum pool at EoD1, and generally kept his scumreads super limited. This is a common scum tactic, as people tend to reflexively scumread and town reading makes less enemies.

Is this an RC trait though? RC is known for being a very good scum player.

- This also fits with him pushing me back after I elected to push him; I was already an enemy, might as well call me one of his scum reads.

I'll need context for this, I think. I can't see this being AI without knowing the context itself.

- (not a major point) His later reads were angled too: his hardest scum read was Vorkuta at his last post, a low activity player who was also on my side of the 1v1 (as opposed to Tarkus and DDL who he had already worked on pocketing)

I'll need context for this too.

Is this an RC trait though? RC is known for being a very good scum player.

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RC claimed essential certainty on NSG being scum, citing a 100% accurate history of reading them. Then, RC changed and said they were almost certainly town in twilight after unvoting.

RC unvoted and then pushed two slots he knew had no chance of getting lynched in the about 1 day before DL we had left, because he wanted to be off the wagon after he successfully got NSG mislynched. The less likely alternative is that RC figured out CoA was the traitor and backed off, which explains his panic, but I don't think this is as probable. He would know she can be low activity as town (as I pointed out) and was unlikely to contest his push. Scot free mislynch.

This is interesting. What did he state as the reason for hopping off the wagon?

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RC claimed complete confidence that BnH / Morality was the scum team, 100% confidence, said it would be gamethrowing to not chain lynch us after his death. Then, he completely changed his pace d2, said only 1 of myself and Morality was probably scum, throwing in a Vorkuta lynch as his primary choice.

Claiming 100% confidence and backing off like its nothing as he does in these two examples is arguably a perspective slip, but at best its strongly scum indicative.

I kinda feel like this is playstyle more than anything alignment specific

- RC actively broke up the town bloc, and a lot of his play has been around that.

Who were the townblock at that point?

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(not a big point) This one is more just something I noticed early on and decided to put a pin in because it'd be cute if true:

[]@BOATS LOOK AT THIS POST LATER[]

RC commented about how vote fluidity was one thing he couldn't fake as scum... and then lacked it completely for the first 80% of the day. For example, he parked Creature despite calling him town for a long time before he moved his vote.

I'll need to double check this, noting.

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RC's Yellow read is clearly fabricated

. He has had him as lock town since like first third of day 1, and really, this is scummy regardless of Yellow's alignment. Either its a traitor game where scum can't really afford to bus as much and he decided to try to lock town his newbie partner, or he fabricated his read on the weakest player in order to pocket them (very easy on newbies). Yellow's iso is blatantly scummy, and you can argue twtbw (which I kind of thought at one point) but the complete confidence he's town is clear garbage. I prodded him on this many times, as did other players d1, and he dodged every time because when you play a super aggro hyperposty style you can afford to dodge shit like that and the vast majority of ppl will forget or not care. But this is one of the strongest points here I think.
- RC's lock solve scum pool d1 was mostly town
- (weaker angleshooty point) RC claiming VT as he essentially did and then yelling to be docced is a good reason to explain why he's alive late game, since with Yellow as a partner he would need to be planning to endgame.

I'll check this too

Just getting this reply out while I have a sec as it is somewhat time sensitive.

Is this an RC trait though? RC is known for being a very good scum player.

Yes, this is an almost-every good scum trait - ideally, you want to keep your lynchpool as small as possible because people react aversely to being scumread by nature. I do not know RC's meta well enough to know specifically if this is a tell for him.

I'll need context for this, I think. I can't see this being AI without knowing the context itself.

This point was a supplementary point to the above one.

I'll need context for this too.

Yes, you do.

This is interesting. What did he state as the reason for hopping off the wagon?

Don't really have time to go reread eod again, but from memory basically first he unvoted but still thought she was scum and wanted more time, then she was hammered and he quickly flipped his read. Again, you need to read the game, retelling is not going to help you sort me / RC.

I kinda feel like this is playstyle more than anything alignment specific

I disagree. Read how he worded it. It would be gamethrowing to profess that confidence and be wrong, and he flipped his tune

really

quickly.

Who were the townblock at that point?

CoA, Vorkuta, Aura, Creature, Yellow, Shoshin iirc.

[Yachting n Socializing]

It's not shading your slot and I disagree it looks liek such

Don't put words in my mouth

I don't care what other people do

trying to paint it

this is shading my guy, you serious?

[Morality]

I don't know how much that would really help right now. Unless anyone claims to have interfered, we lynch Morality, and then maybe I will do some reading after seeing his flip.

I’m confirmed Not Ascetic.

Correct path would be lynching you over me here.

I am confirmed by RCE.

[Morality]

There is effectively zero reason to go me before another scum is flipped. (Even then, I’d say there isn’t a reason, but I digress.)

It’s literally a wasted lynch that does nothing but helps scum.

[Morality]

Going me today means town lose tomorrow.

[Morality]

Also, SS, Dunn clearly interfered, so you’re posturing now.

[Aurathebirb]

No interference from this bird

I'll post something tomorrow I promise

[Dunnstral]

Also, SS, Dunn clearly interfered, so you’re posturing now.

?

[Morality]

Also, SS, Dunn clearly interfered, so you’re posturing now.

?

I guess I am wrong.

[Vorkuta]

Nothing from me