Mini 2059: Secrets of the Anuket Topaz [Over]

[Creature]

I think I'm townreading somebody I shouldn't

Most likely.

[Creature]

Votecount 1.14

tris(5)

~ skitter30(221), Brigitte(240), Elbirn(217), Creature(36), Flubbernugget(78)

Brigitte(4)

~ Ankamius(304), tris(119), xRECKONERx(124), Xtoxm(255)

skitter30(1)

~ Nimueh(192)

Nimueh(1)

~ NotMySpamAccount(79)

Elbirn(1)

~ Chara(137)

Ankamius(1)

~ Succinct(55)


Not Voting (0):

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch. The Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2019-03-08 00:58:59).

Mod Notes:

skitter30 is V/LA on weekends.
Nimueh is V/LA while sick.

Around here-ish is when I feel the lynch was locked into tris/brigette. Maybe I'm wrong on tris, then.

Plenty of slots that don't immediatelly strike me as town in the Brig wagon as opposed to tris wagon.

[Creature]

Why was Succint voting Ank?

[Flubbernugget]

Mmmmmmm I kind of thought that too, mostly re: "wowie where's the NK?", but I dont know that scum says this because I'd assume they'd be particularly aware that theres no NK coming up if night phases arent happening yet.

And I dont like that she votes flubber after positing scum in reck/tris/succinct

Do you see something else here or have I covered your thoughts more or less?

I try not to be hyper-critical of posts that vote for me but I'm glad I'm not the only one that

[Flubbernugget]

Succinct, why did you scum read Brigitte?

[skitter30]

maybe the nks turn back on when we lynch scum, idk

i have to at some point go back and look at the circumstances of the votes on the brigitte wagon but off the cuff if there's scum on there i'd guess it to be between: {reck/tris/succint}

kinda want to do this for now until i sort out how i feel about the brigitte/tris wagons

VOTE: flubber
i have like no read on him and can't really remember much of anything he's said this game

Skitters post to start the day feels a bit out of place too for some reason

Mmmmmmm I kind of thought that too, mostly re: "wowie where's the NK?", but I dont know that scum says this because I'd assume they'd be particularly aware that theres no NK coming up if night phases arent happening yet.

And I dont like that she votes flubber after positing scum in reck/tris/succinct

Do you see something else here or have I covered your thoughts more or less?

the entire post just feels... weird

it's setup spec

followed by saying that there may be scum in half the lynch wagon

then instead of sorting them, uses her vote to try to sort somebody else...?

like those are thoughts that make sense but the way they're ordered and written feels a lot more like she didn't have a whole lot to say but felt compelled to put more down on the page

it doesn't fit the context of what her thought processes have looked like to me

the lack of night reminded me that at some point that it had occurred to me that maybe the nks will turn on after scum flips but i never wrote that anywhere so i just put it there. also i'm low-key wondering if the game has more than the usual number of scum

(ie the ambiguous wincon and lack of nk's are reminding me quite a bit of jingle's game from a couple months back)

to figure out exactly where scum is on the wagon, i need to go back and look at how/when the wagon formed, but i haven't had a chance to do that yet, and don't think i will for another couple of days. off the top of my head / from what i remember without going back to check, those three votes were worse than the other three votes, and those are the ones i'm going to pay especial attention to whenever i do get the chance to check how that wagon formed.

and my vote was dangling for far too much of day1 so until i figure out if i want to vote on the wagon i wanted to put it *somewhere* and i keep forgetting flubber exists so i decided to start there today

basically what i'm saying is that i need to relook at the brigitte wagon before i firm up my opinion on the votes on that wagon, but since that isn't going to happen for a couple of days, i want to do something with my vote so i decided in the meanwhile to start tackling another part of the game that i also need to work on.

i have no idea what 'it doesn't fit the context of what her thought processes have looked like to me' means so i can't address that , really

[skitter30]

@mod

semi v/la until ~monday - i'm moving again this weekend

[skitter30]

Plenty of slots that don't immediatelly strike me as town in the Brig wagon as opposed to tris wagon.

which ones?

[Creature]

Plenty of slots that don't immediatelly strike me as town in the Brig wagon as opposed to tris wagon.

which ones?

tris, xRECKONERx and Xtoxm. However, out of them, I don't suspect Reck, just don't have a good townread on him.

[skitter30]

had you read any of urap2's posts?
i agree that xtoxm himself is null/meh but urap2 was pretty obvtown and that's what i'm basing the read on

i had a townread on reck at some point but it was long enough ago that i kinda forgot why and i don't really townread him anymore

[Flubbernugget]

Jingle's setup went open. Makes no sense to replicate it closed

[Flubbernugget]

Urap2 being obvtown and chara sitting around null-scum make no sense in the same game

[Ankamius]

i have no idea what 'it doesn't fit the context of what her thought processes have looked like to me' means so i can't address that , really

the timing, really

[Flubbernugget]

Also makes no sense to throw down a vote you're admitting is useless

[skitter30]

Jingle's setup went open. Makes no sense to replicate it closed

it isn't replicated, obviously. there is no night here at all, there scum were suiciding overnight

but the ambiguous wincon coupled with lack of nks remind me of that game tho

[skitter30]

Urap2 being obvtown and chara sitting around null-scum make no sense in the same game

if this is directed at me i don't know why those don't make sense together
(and chara has gone up quite a bit in myreads, but that only happened recently)

[Chara]

Urap2 being obvtown and chara sitting around null-scum make no sense in the same game

are you referring to someone in particular or the game as a whole?

pedit: hi skitter.

[Chara]

Jingle's setup went open. Makes no sense to replicate it closed

it isn't replicated, obviously. there is no night here at all, there scum were suiciding overnight

but the ambiguous wincon coupled with lack of nks remind me of that game tho

it's an interesting idea if nothing else. but just for speculation. much like Jingle's game, ultimately lynching scum is probably the goal.

[skitter30]

i have no idea what 'it doesn't fit the context of what her thought processes have looked like to me' means so i can't address that , really

the timing, really

this still doesn't really mean anything to me, sorry

Also makes no sense to throw down a vote you're admitting is useless

i wouldn't really classify it as useless (and i don't think i called it useless either), more that the vote is kinda like a side-thing that i'm exploring while i'm putting the more time-consuming stuff on hold for a few days

[skitter30]

Jingle's setup went open. Makes no sense to replicate it closed

it isn't replicated, obviously. there is no night here at all, there scum were suiciding overnight

but the ambiguous wincon coupled with lack of nks remind me of that game tho

it's an interesting idea if nothing else. but just for speculation. much like Jingle's game, ultimately lynching scum is probably the goal.

i mean, yes. i'm just noting it reminds me of that game

and hi!

[Chara]

i don't know if u2 was actually obvtown.
i mean, sure... was towny with the turnaround on nmsa. that's about it. the slot is probably town but i don't know why you say obvtown. remind me?

[Chara]

right, it was the conversation between u2 and Enter that also made me put a townread there.

[Ankamius]

Do you think that reads shift was manufactured the way it was on purpose?

[Chara]

i'm not interested in wagoning u2 right now, but there's definitely scum utility here

if

Reck ends up town. there's much less if this is a bus, because the towncred scum u2 gains from helping you is a lot less valuable than where i think this push will go.

pedit: it makes sense from town u2 too, but the way he's saying outright that he wants to help you and figure you out here pinged me. as i said if it's a buddy attempt it's pretty blatant so i don't know how likely i find that.

around here i talked about my bad feelings with u2. i remember that i eventually decided his turnaround on wmsa was towny.

i'm rereading the posts around this part.

[skitter30]

the turn around on nmsa was incredibly townie and i don't think it comes from scum

his very very early game and how he pushed nmsa was also pretty townie and nuanced and i don't think scum!him pushes a mislynch that way (or lolbusses a partner that way) or says things like 'if he flips town i know i'm the lynch tomorrow' (which he said repeatedly) - if scum!him is aware enough of the gamestate that he knows that a mislynch would result in his own lynch i odn't think he's confident enough to push it as aggressively as he did, and the whole push started too early and was too hard to be a bus (and the turn-around on nmsa didn't happen at the time i feel like it would have if it had been a bus)

mindmelding at various points of the game (esp. wrt the ank/brigitte thing)

there was probably more but if there is it happened long enough ago that i'm blanking