Non-Reviewed Game [game over]

[xyzzy]

votecount 1.14

4 players voting for DoubtingThomas (ofrhz, Sabrina LeCutie, Ausuka, Fuscosco)
4 players voting for Enigma (Wisdom, Elsa Jay, StarwingBeauvoi, Dunnstral)
2 players voting for Gamma Emerald (Vedith, davesaz)
2 players voting for Vedith (MariaR, light_ganski)
2 players voting for Elsa Jay (Clemency, DoubtingThomas)
1 player voting for davesaz (Gamma Emerald)
1 player voting for StarwingBeauvoi (Enigma)
1 player voting for Sabrina LeCutie (wilky)

0 players not voting

with 17 votes, it takes 9 to lynch.

day 1 will end in (expired on 2019-03-19 19:00:00).

mod notes: re:445, I inadvertently recorded DoubtingThomas' vote for Elsa Jay as Elsa Jay voting for himself. this has been fixed in votecount 1.14 (and this one as well, obviously).

[DoubtingThomas]

Yeah you show em, DT. Show em who's boss!

I am nobody's boss. I just own players like you who never generate content. Call me daddy

Okay Mommy. I'm sorry Mommy. Don't spank me Mommy.

explain your enigma vote

[davesaz]

Thomas can be clever,
He knows that antagonizing everyone is less than useful.
So if he's town,
He won't do it too much.

Sabrina wanting Thomas gone, is rather obvious. Evil often likes to be sneaky. That's not sneaky.

These are insightful but perhaps a little short sighted.
Doing something that scum shouldn't / wouldn't do is a good way to hide in plain sight.
We may think they are more likely to be town but shouldn't forget them.

[DoubtingThomas]

Thomas can be clever,
He knows that antagonizing everyone is less than useful.
So if he's town,
He won't do it too much.

Sabrina wanting Thomas gone, is rather obvious. Evil often likes to be sneaky. That's not sneaky.

These are insightful but perhaps a little short sighted.
Doing something that scum shouldn't / wouldn't do is a good way to hide in plain sight.
We may think they are more likely to be town but shouldn't forget them.

good points dave

[Sabrina LeCutie]

Wagon on me yay

I choose VOTE: starwing

Do you choose be because I looked at your ISO before voting?

VOTE: Sabrina

Sabrina wanting Thomas gone, is rather obvious. Evil often likes to be sneaky. That's not sneaky.

This is a good point, although towns should be doing more than giving absolutely no other reads except that they want me dead regardless of alignment.

Given that she's a rather new player, I will give her more room, but I hope she starts trying to solve rest of the game because there is certainly more than 1 scum in the game.

However, this post kinda gives you, yourself, townie points so props

I'm not new. This is an alt account. I've been around for years. You're the one coming in saying you want to change the way the site plays like you're some political candidate.

[Fuscosco]

:\ We had one game together, and we both subbed out pretty quickly

[Fuscosco]

I don't like the way it went off topic. Partly because I have only the most basic of ideas what y'all started talking about.

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

dont understand this vote. it was an rvs wagon and she didn tpost anything so why go back?

Gamme was the biggest wagon atp. Odd not to see that and be so astute in the spamming you did before . . .

[Fuscosco]

Asking someone for how confident they are so early feels like it weakens someone elses push rather than sort out reads

^This. Who has a confident scum read on page 3?

It feels like derailment tactic if anything

If you think this why didn't you say anything before Dunnstral posted?

VOTE: lightganski

Because I hadn't really thought on a deeper level about the connection between the posts until dunn brought it up? Sometimes you don't really think about things until someone points them out

But your defensiveness to the suggestion is pretty suspicious

This isn't about thinking on a deeper level though; it's a very simple concept as far as I can tell. I asked you how confident you were about your read, and by asking you that I was undermining your read on Fuscosco by making you admit you're not confident. Thinking about it deeply should probably lead to the realization that I have no reason to do this because it's already clear you're not all that confident and I was voting Fuscosco myself at the time, not to mention I wouldn't really gain anything by obstructing an early push, even if I was buddies with Fuscosco.

Defensiveness being scummy is a strange concept to me. Why shouldn't I defend myself?

I feel like the wilky/sabrina issue would probably be better resolved privately rather than in the game thread.

ugh. Its just 6 pages into a large. Why are we cramming so much seriousness into it?

But for the record, in rvs its far more beneficial to get reactions than to defend yourself. Doing things like asking questions you think you know the answer to, or plaintext voting a player?

[Fuscosco]

He meant fucosco's non bold vote

I just realised that... I'm too tired for this

Again though... NAI but at the same time Why???? I feel like it makes fucosco's omgus more suspicious

This is probably the worst post of the game, imo. Just taking it [the gamestate] too seriously.

Speed so that we have less interactions to go off later, or just so you can see how the people now react to the suggestion? Has Dave done something terrible to deserve that

ugh. So its just a personality thing?

Then vote me?

Why? I'm voting fuscosco cos I have reasons to scumread them too.

But you know what? I'm fed up of people using this stupid move to shut down discussion so I'll bite

VOTE: vedith

Balance of probability? Most likely there's one scum on that wagon (and it's vedith)

I guess, but if they are scum, we can get him later. Honestly, you went from 'fed up' to 'he scum'.

[Fuscosco]

Let's kill Light.

[Fuscosco]

I have no strong opinion of ausuka, but slight TR on Sabrina, partly for being standoffish.

[Fuscosco]

DT is an a'ight wagon. I'll hang out for now.

[Sabrina LeCutie]

I have no strong opinion of ausuka, but slight TR on Sabrina, partly for being standoffish.

Standoffish?! Wilky literally insulted me and I'm the one being standoffish?!

[Dunnstral]

Stop saying it's rvs and scumreading people for "taking the game seriously"

[Fuscosco]

I have no strong opinion of ausuka, but slight TR on Sabrina, partly for being standoffish.

Standoffish?! Wilky literally insulted me and I'm the one being standoffish?!

I know. i know.

[Fuscosco]

scumreading people for "taking the game seriously"

where did i do this?

[davesaz]

457 discusses rvs / seriousness, but I don't see a scumread there.

[Dunnstral]

This is probably the worst post of the game, imo. Just taking it [the gamestate] too seriously.

[Fuscosco]

Thats not a scumread. atp its a source of irritation. My scumread on light is more to do with the absolutely appalling reasons for jumping onto vedith. That he is looking for easy reasons to vote around is scummy as sin, but
I prefer not to use my own wagoneers to scumhunt in D1.

[Clemency]

yeet

[StarwingBeauvoi]

Thomas can be clever,
He knows that antagonizing everyone is less than useful.
So if he's town,
He won't do it too much.

Sabrina wanting Thomas gone, is rather obvious. Evil often likes to be sneaky. That's not sneaky.

These are insightful but perhaps a little short sighted.
Doing something that scum shouldn't / wouldn't do is a good way to hide in plain sight.
We may think they are more likely to be town but shouldn't forget them.

If Thomas is scum, he also won't want everyone angry at him. Thus it's not indicative.
But as scum it's destructive to him personally.
While antagonizing could break town cohesion and cooperation as badly as a heliopath stampede would.

I'm like an elephant. I don't forget.

[Vedith]

Really busy, catch up later / tomorrow.

[xyzzy]

MariaR has been prodded.

[Elsa Jay]

I have no strong opinion of ausuka, but slight TR on Sabrina, partly for being standoffish.

Standoffish?! Wilky literally insulted me and I'm the one being standoffish?!

In the words of All Might: Be the hero you know you can be, Sabrina. Forgive and forget, because we shant use our great power to inhinder civilians! Only Villains!

[DoubtingThomas]

Yeah you show em, DT. Show em who's boss!

I am nobody's boss. I just own players like you who never generate content. Call me daddy

Okay Mommy. I'm sorry Mommy. Don't spank me Mommy.

explain your enigma vote