Open 753: Nomination Mafia [Game Over!]


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Post Post #1775 (ISO) » Mon Mar 11, 2019 7:03 pm

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VOTE: Shoshin
"i agree it was a good that we outed PR volxen early..it's like he suddenly transformed from an ugly duckling into a beautiful(?) swan " - xwing (Newbie 1889: Ice Cream)
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Post Post #1776 (ISO) » Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:25 pm

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Vote Count 2.6
Shoshin:
(3) DoubtingThomas, Alonzo, volxen
Irrelephant11:
(0)
Volxen:
(0)

Not Voting:
[Clemency], Irrelephant11, Vedith, Auro, Fuscosco, Shoshin, scum reading

With 10 players alive, it takes 6 votes to lynch.

Day 2 deadline is in (expired on 2019-03-19 05:19:27)
Last edited by ejjinami on Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:27 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Post Post #1777 (ISO) » Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:26 pm

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chennisden replaces Clemency.
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Post Post #1778 (ISO) » Tue Mar 12, 2019 12:51 am

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Volxen, I think Fusco is very likely scum here (not just from the nominations coinciding with his top townreads), but that should make Shoshin townier, right? Why vote her as opposed to Irrelephant?

Got a splint and typing is hard among other things. I'll get into more detail in some time.
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Post Post #1779 (ISO) » Tue Mar 12, 2019 12:59 am

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The analysis that my town reads are in the pool of nks should not be surprising. Im fairly sure others expressed the same general feelings too. They may not have put it down so succinctly, but then why would they when you guys arent doing readlists?
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Post Post #1780 (ISO) » Tue Mar 12, 2019 12:59 am

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Who is tring auro and why again?
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Post Post #1781 (ISO) » Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:04 am

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volx, because i think you are town, lemme try to talk you through this.

The list I made is publicly available.
The list I made is of town -> scum.
Scumteam has a wincon to kill town.
Analysing the nk in this particular case is wifomy. Its probs the reason the game was invented.
Why would scumlord fusco list his wishlist at all? I was under no pressure to and I would have lied.
I've already told you all how clem and I seem to play alike. Earnest isnt my style.
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Post Post #1782 (ISO) » Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:05 am

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Subject: Open 738: Scumchat
Irrelephant11 wrote: propping up tw as town leader who is townreading all three of us seems like a good thing for the moment, so I am
Irre in one of his scumchats^
Interesting, Shoshin was right that Irre forming a consensus townread is null.
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Post Post #1783 (ISO) » Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:23 am

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That defense isn't sitting all that well with me.
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Post Post #1784 (ISO) » Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:46 am

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In post 1755, volxen wrote:I find this post from Vedith a bit suspect:
I'm still right.
Keep putting all the mafia in the pool and even if a second one is lynched the 3rd can coast by with the argument "Scum would never put all 3 in the pool" would even probably let the second mafia coast by too.

Would then even give scum a better chance at controlling the lynch by adding in a widely town read player.

People just don't think outside the box.

After follow the leader I'm surprised hat just actually believe that I wouldn't think like this. Best chance as Scum from all 3.

VOTE: Volxen
I claim scum \o/
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Post Post #1785 (ISO) » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:21 am

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In post 1783, Auro wrote:That defense isn't sitting all that well with me.
What is this referring to

Also I agree I shouldn’t be townread for suggesting my own lynch. I don’t think I’ve done it before as scum and I have done it before as town but it’s also something I’m very aware of
I mean maybe you should townread me for it, it would help you read me correctly if you did, but :P
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Post Post #1786 (ISO) » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:22 am

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In post 1780, Fuscosco wrote:Who is tring auro and why again?
I am!

Activity, reasonableness, tone, multiple towny moments
Are you scumreading him? I’d be fascinated to hear more
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Post Post #1787 (ISO) » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:33 am

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Hmmm Shoshin have you meta dived Auro yet
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Post Post #1788 (ISO) » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:39 am

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Vedith how likely are irrel volx shoshin a team just from reads and associstive posts
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Post Post #1789 (ISO) » Tue Mar 12, 2019 4:05 am

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possible, certainly. shoshin and irre have a good chemistry together for sure.

scum volx's big thing would be trying to generate that much content. I'd expect a some of it to be tunnels and weak logic.
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Post Post #1790 (ISO) » Tue Mar 12, 2019 4:06 am

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in fact, Id say that shosin and irre, while collaborating, have distanced themselves from each other quite well.

not an indictment [yet] . . . just noting.
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Post Post #1791 (ISO) » Tue Mar 12, 2019 4:12 am

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What a fun way to say that occam’s razor would tell you we’re not scum partners
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Post Post #1792 (ISO) » Tue Mar 12, 2019 4:15 am

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sure. Im not scum reading you. But it'd be a cool move on your part
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Post Post #1793 (ISO) » Tue Mar 12, 2019 4:15 am

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It'd be like that time I gladiated my P for the win.
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Post Post #1794 (ISO) » Tue Mar 12, 2019 4:17 am

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Actually, vedith should contribute. A good vedith read is a slow burn read.
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Post Post #1795 (ISO) » Tue Mar 12, 2019 4:20 am

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Here’s where I’m at (because readslist only shows part of this thought process)

Shoshin is town and has narrowed scum down to a group of four, 2-3 of which are scum imo (take your pick of a talented scum player like me or Auro for the third one if she’s wrong)

or

Shoshin is scum and has “narrowed down” scum to a group of four, 0-1 of which are scum imo, and scum have really split town and ruined some townies’ reputations. Team in this scenario would be like... Shoshin/Auro/Vedith or something

Occam’s razor says it’s the first and in that case I do sorta feel like I’m a better lynch than Shoshin because she’s a better scumhunter than I am
OTOH it would be nice to know Shoshin’s alignment
OTOH I should probably just ISO some players and put in the work to eliminate one of these options
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Post Post #1796 (ISO) » Tue Mar 12, 2019 5:14 am

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In post 1788, DoubtingThomas wrote:Vedith how likely are irrel volx shoshin a team just from reads and associstive posts
There is 0% chance in my mind that they are all scum.
I claim scum \o/
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Post Post #1797 (ISO) » Tue Mar 12, 2019 5:14 am

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It's like Fusco isn't reading.

Auro's locktown.

DO NOT LYNCH HIM WHEN I FLIP TOWN.

Volx voting me is bad.

Irrel realizing I'm town is good.

I now trust Irrel not to mislynch Auro more than Volx.
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Post Post #1798 (ISO) » Tue Mar 12, 2019 5:18 am

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I don't want to lynch Irrelephant, so this isn't an option today for me.

Scum on Shoshin I think though and I don't think it's DT.
Other 2 scum sitting back.

Volxen should be the lynch \o/
I claim scum \o/
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Post Post #1799 (ISO) » Tue Mar 12, 2019 5:20 am

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Why not Irrel?
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